Yay, Tesla charging … July 31!

[MJAir23TheGoat]

Tesla charging > EA
Significantly overall
Charging just always works

 

[new owner]

Does anyone know if there is a way to use the J1772 home charger for the AIr with the NACS Gravity ? Is there an adapter for that?

 

[Adnillien]

Does anyone know if there is a way to use the J1772 home charger for the AIr with the NACS Gravity ? Is there an adapter for that?

The Gravity comes with the adapter needed for this.

 

[Worldwide Beagle]

If it's a quality adapter rated at 500A and 1000V, it should work without issue. I'd be comfortable using an adapter from Rivian, Volvo, Polestar, Ford, Lectron, A2Z, but not from Hyundai /Kia, nor one of the hundreds of no-name adapters on Amazon and eBay.

From photos, the Lucid looks identical to the Lectron. Obviously, Lucid had to go to a third party manufacturer that could supply these in quantity, and had a supply chain in place to the US. I noticed the Lucid website has them now backordered till Aug 29

 

[new owner]

The Gravity comes with the adapter needed for this.

Great
Thank You

 

[new owner]

Great
Thank You

Adnillien,
Can you use this adapter ( which i will buy for the Air just for flexible use if needed)

NACS to CCS1 Charging Adapter​

to charge the Gravity at an EA is needed ?
thx

 

[Adnillien]

Adnillien,
Can you use this adapter ( which i will buy for the Air just for flexible use if needed)

NACS to CCS1 Charging Adapter​

to charge the Gravity at an EA is needed ?
thx

No, the NACS to CCS1 is just for the Air.

Gravity comes with a CCS1 to NACS adapter for DC fast charging Gravity at a CCS1 charger like EA.

 

[new owner]

No, the NACS to CCS1 is just for the Air.

Gravity comes with a CCS1 to NACS adapter for DC fast charging Gravity at a CCS1 charger like EA.

Great thanks I think I’ve got it straight at least for my Air for now
So the Gravity comes with 2 adapters? (AC and DC)
I suppose when everything is NACS including even at some of the EA’s it will all be easier
Nevertheless it’s all really just a plug once you understand
Sorry to bother you

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

So who's gonna be the first to report on this activation tomorrow? I am most interested to confirm the belief that the 50 kw max is maintained through the entire charging session.

 

[hydbob]

So who's gonna be the first to report on this activation tomorrow? I am most interested to confirm the belief that the 50 kw max is maintained through the entire charging session.

It will slow down less than 50 above 90%

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

It will slow down less than 50 above 90%

I can live with that. Most of the time when supercharging my Tesla back in the day I never went that high even on road trips. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze, so to speak.

 

[hydbob]

I can live with that. Most of the time when supercharging my Tesla back in the day I never went that high even on road trips. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze, so to speak.

With the adapter it will match the charging sessions on the magic dock stations.

 

[Adnillien]

Great thanks I think I’ve got it straight at least for my Air for now
So the Gravity comes with 2 adapters? (AC and DC)
I suppose when everything is NACS including even at some of the EA’s it will all be easier
Nevertheless it’s all really just a plug once you understand
Sorry to bother you

You have it straight.

 

[Adnillien]

So who's gonna be the first to report on this activation tomorrow? I am most interested to confirm the belief that the 50 kw max is maintained through the entire charging session.

I suspect you will draw 50kW from the Tesla SC but only get about 45kW into the battery due to losses from the voltage upconversion and normal charging losses.

 

[David R.]

If it's a quality adapter rated at 500A and 1000V, it should work without issue. I'd be comfortable using an adapter from Rivian, Volvo, Polestar, Ford, Lectron, A2Z, but not from Hyundai /Kia, nor one of the hundreds of no-name adapters on Amazon and eBay.

I posted this in another thread just reposting it here.

It has been widely stated here that the nacs to ccs adapters are not smart adapters. I ordered the approved Lucid adapter (which appears to be identical to the lectron adapter sans the lucid branding) but it hasn’t arrived yet. So, i decided to try my spare Levtron nacs to ccs charger again. Of course, it did not work last week or so when I tried it the first time at a Tesla Supercharger. Tonight, I tried it again after updating my app and confirming it listed Tesla SC in the app. After a few seconds of connecting to the car the lights tirned red and stated that i needed to disconnect and then reconnect the cable. It would not work at all. I have long had a credit card on file with Lucid in the app. I suppose that my Lectron adapter could be bad?

 

[DeaneG]

I posted this in another thread just reposting it here.

It has been widely stated here that the nacs to ccs adapters are not smart adapters. I ordered the approved Lucid adapter (which appears to be identical to the lectron adapter sans the lucid branding) but it hasn’t arrived yet. So, i decided to try my spare Levtron nacs to ccs charger again. Of course, it did not work last week or so when I tried it the first time at a Tesla Supercharger. Tonight, I tried it again after updating my app and confirming it listed Tesla SC in the app. After a few seconds of connecting to the car the lights tirned red and stated that i needed to disconnect and then reconnect the cable. It would not work at all. I have long had a credit card on file with Lucid in the app. I suppose that my Lectron adapter could be bad?

Did Lucid's app list that particular supercharger location as compatible? I'd wait for Lucid's adapter to arrive, then try it out. By then, more details should be available on exactly how to initiate a charge manually - or plug'n'charge might be working, which would be easier.

 

[David R.]

Did Lucid's app list that particular supercharger location as compatible? I'd wait for Lucid's adapter to arrive, then try it out. By then, more details should be available on exactly how to initiate a charge manually - or plug'n'charge might be working, which would be easier.

Thanks. My Lucid adapter should arrive early next week. No, the Lucid iPhone app did not indicate compatibility or noncompatibility with the location as it didn't appear on the app at all. It was a generic Tesla Supercharger station. Maybe I was supposed to do something with the app? It's been a long time since I used EA (we charge at home) but I do not recall doing anything other than plugging the cable in when charging there. Tesla Supercharging may require an additional step(s) on the app.

 

[DeaneG]

Thanks. My Lucid adapter should arrive early next week. No, the Lucid iPhone app did not indicate compatibility or noncompatibility with the location as it didn't appear on the app at all. It was a generic Tesla Supercharger station. Maybe I was supposed to do something with the app? It's been a long time since I used EA (we charge at home) but I do not recall doing anything other than plugging the cable in when charging there. Tesla Supercharging may require an additional step(s) on the app.

Tesla Supercharging does require interaction with Lucid's app.
More importantly, not all Supercharger stations are compatible with non-Tesla vehicles. If a Supercharger location doesn't show up in Lucid's phone app, that location isn't compatible with the Air or Gravity.

 

[Bonanzajohn]

Does Tesla have the fast chargers as fast as EA? EA charges so fast - I had a Tesla before and it took forever. I know the Air charges faster but I'm thinking the fastest EA is faster than the fastest Tesla charger?

 

[David R.]

Tesla Supercharging does require interaction with Lucid's app.
More importantly, not all Supercharger stations are compatible with non-Tesla vehicles. If a Supercharger location doesn't show up in Lucid's phone app, that location isn't compatible with the Air or Gravity.

You nailed it! That SC location is not compatible with the Air as shown on the map in the app (screenshot attached). There is another Tesla SC close by that is compatible so I will be testing that this afternoon. Thanks!