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Yay, Tesla charging … July 31!

newkidontheblock said:
I read in a different thread that I need two adapters. One for AC and another for add charging. Are both available in lucid store? Is it easy to figure out if a Tesla charger is Ac or DC? This is good news even with slower speed charging. I use Tesla tap mini at home. Do I still have to buy two adapters?
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All superchargers are DC. But I think we can only charge at V3 and V4 superchargers, so the old superchargers are out. The AC adapter is only used for L2 Tesla chargers at hotels or individual houses.
 
agarner said:
Thank you all for clarifying. I even asked ChatGPT if it was a hardware issue and it flat out said no. I'll have some words with ChatGPT. I sure hope there are more fast charging options for non-Teslas in the future.
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AI knows what it's been trained on. Ask it about IRS tax code and it does well because it's ingested the entire tax code, I suspect. Ask it about the NUANCED internals of Air's charging hardware and it may well struggle, particularly since most publicly available data likely doesn't dive into this specific issue. As a result, it pieces together what it can from other similar situations and draws a reasonable sounding conclusion.
 
Andretex said:
I think any good quality adapter should work. But Lucid may want us to buy the one from the lucid store. I already have a good one from Lectron. It should work just fine. The key is making sure they are approved for the kW you are using. So Lucid needs something that can handle 500 kw.
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Why 500kW? I thought the announcement said the Air can do only up to 50kW from Tesla chargers?
 
thommev said:
Why 500kW? I thought the announcement said the Air can do only up to 50kW from Tesla chargers?
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On full V4 superchargers (none of which exist yet), the Air will be able to go at full speed as those are rumored to be 1000V. The Air uses an 800-900V system, so they can charge at full speed.

The issue is at V3 superchargers (aka basically all of them right now) which use a 400V system. On those chargers, the Air will max out at 50kW. Those chargers are older technology and the Air was built for the future, before those chargers were announced to be opening up to other vehicles.

The Gravity will charge at full speed on any charger in existence today, because they built it to. In fact, it’ll charge faster than a Tesla at a V4 supercharger.

That’s all.
 
thommev said:
Why 500kW? I thought the announcement said the Air can do only up to 50kW from Tesla chargers?
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Well, the adapter can be used with any super charger not just level 3 Tesla. So you want it make sure when your car is charging at 350kw that the adapter does not catch on fire. Yes, its overkill for level 3 tesla supercharger, but not for any other that allows the car to charge higher.
 
Haggy said:
A bigger problem as I see it is that EA decided to have far more locations, but with few chargers per location. That makes it impossible to plan a route and select EA chargers along the way and have any expectation that the availability you see in the app will have anything to do with what will be the case when you get there. And one charger down in a location that has four is a significant problem.
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For what it's worth, EA has said going forward they will only be opening locations with 10+ stands.
 
newkidontheblock said:
I read in a different thread that I need two adapters. One for AC and another for add charging. Are both available in lucid store? Is it easy to figure out if a Tesla charger is Ac or DC? This is good news even with slower speed charging. I use Tesla tap mini at home. Do I still have to buy two adapters?
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The Tesla tap mini is your AC adapter (J1772). Superchargers need a DC adapter (CCS).
 
I have about 30k miles and owned the car since Feb 2023...drove all over the US from Texas base and never once struggled so hard to find a charger..mostly EA that I couldn't charge with..wasn't 100% but close...and I'm holding off on getting the adapter cos I just don't feel given my driving patterns that I'll be seeking out a Tesla supercharger ..the Mercedes chargers, the Shell chargers etc all have worked out well for me and I believe I've paid exactly 36 dollars in the last three years for electrons due to free EV charging..next year I'll start paying .so my focus turns to the cost of charging as opposed to speed or charging...anyway, all that to share that I'm gonna hold off on trying to jump into Tesla supercharger network for now..
 
There have been numerous times in the past that it would have been helpful to be able to charge at a Supercharger. In fact there have been times I when I couldn't take my Audi because of lack of charging stations where I could have taken the car if I had been able to use a Supercharger. So put me in the group that is happy to have the SCs as a backup JIC. Of course, my Audi had the range of a fat man running uphill and the Lucid can much further so perhaps I'll never need a SC. But it certainly doesn't hurt to have additional options.
 
lucidtouringman said:
I have about 30k miles and owned the car since Feb 2023...drove all over the US from Texas base and never once struggled so hard to find a charger..mostly EA that I couldn't charge with..wasn't 100% but close...and I'm holding off on getting the adapter cos I just don't feel given my driving patterns that I'll be seeking out a Tesla supercharger ..the Mercedes chargers, the Shell chargers etc all have worked out well for me and I believe I've paid exactly 36 dollars in the last three years for electrons due to free EV charging..next year I'll start paying .so my focus turns to the cost of charging as opposed to speed or charging...anyway, all that to share that I'm gonna hold off on trying to jump into Tesla supercharger network for now..
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Tesla superchargers would be useful for Holiday driving. If you can charge without waiting it would be faster than waiting an hour at EA.
 
Negan1000 said:
Tesla superchargers would be useful for Holiday driving. If you can charge without waiting it would be faster than waiting an hour at EA.
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It might be regional, but in 18,000 miles of driving, I've never waited more than 15 minutes...and 90% of the time I don't wait at all.
 
Leftlane said:
I’d sell my EV and go back to ICE if I had to deal with that nonsense on a regular basis
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Yeah…. It’s not good in CA. The chargers either don’t work or the stations are constantly full. The one near home has been offline for almost 2 weeks but when it is operational you’ll see 2 or 3 cars waiting most times.

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