Update 2.6.16

I think the efficiency has definitely increased, but we should be careful to also factor in the warmer temperatures that many of us are now enjoying. That might result in an overly optimistic view of the actual efficiency increase.
 
I'm having a weird issue after this update. Sometimes, the car does not recognize that the driver's door is closed and will not allow me to put the car in drive or reverse. I have to open the door and close it again before it recognizes that the door is closed. Has anyone else seen this issue?
 
This update is actually made things worse for me. So I was able to get my local radio station icons back but now the reception is horrible and doesn't show all my stations that have been saved all the time. Also I had to delete both phones so the keyless entry would work. And I keep having to punch my securty number in now. My wife still has the problem that when she gets in the car with her phone the audio system switches to her phone as the sound source so she disables Bluetooth in the car
 
Another data point on drive assist.. It has definitely improved a lot with this update. I had given up on it and stopped using it earlier, but with this update after a 100mile round-trip, I can confirm it works far better. It pretty much stayed centered the whole time!

Detecting hands on the wheel is a crap shoot still (it will complain sometimes even with both my hands on the wheel), but the drive itself is much improved. I may use it now.
 
Detecting hands on the wheel is a crap shoot still (it will complain sometimes even with both my hands on the wheel), but the drive itself is much improved. I may use it now.
To be clear it's not looking for just hands on the wheel, it's looking for torque. Either an occasional jiggle or a constant weight, like one hand holding at 9 or 3 pulling it down slightly.
 
To be clear it's not looking for just hands on the wheel, it's looking for torque. Either an occasional jiggle or a constant weight, like one hand holding at 9 or 3 pulling it down slightly.
Yeah, but if weight of two hands on the wheel is not enough, I don't know what is?
 
Well, if you have two hands on the wheel instead of one, are you applying torque? It's not a weight sensor either
I guess the question is how much torque is enough torque.. Or are you saying weight of hands on the wheel adds no "torque" on the wheel? My experience is that one hand on the wheel usually works, two hands on the wheel works more often.. but still I get alerted every once in a while. Am I supposed to set a mental timer to actively pull on one side every few seconds?
 
I guess the question is how much torque is enough torque.. Or are you saying weight of hands on the wheel adds no "torque" on the wheel? My experience is that one hand on the wheel usually works, two hands on the wheel works more often.. but still I get alerted every once in a while. Am I supposed to set a mental timer to actively pull on one side every few seconds?
if mine gives me the warning, the very slightest jiggle of the steering wheel clears the alert. like super tiny. all it needs is your motion to do something very slightly different than it's doing to know you have control. I suppose if you have two hands on and are touching it so slightly that you don't give it any input, it won't know you are holding the wheel. it's drive assist, so your natural action of holding the wheel while it assists you should give it just the tiny bit of jiggle needed. it'll usually turn the wheel just a little in a way different than you would and so your hand doesn't quite have the exact same steering input and as such, you'll apply a little force on the wheel as it's doing what it does and that should be enough.
 
I don't have DDPro - does it by chance forgo hand on wheel nanny when the volume or speed is changed?

I may or may have known of a lil chip you could bury in a Tesla Model 3 steering wheel that would randomly blip the volume or cruise speed up and down imperceptibly every 15 seconds or so to get rid of the silly nanny state to drive your car. It was way better than jamming an orange in the wheel or hanging weights on it (a hypothetical friend of mine said).
 
I guess the question is how much torque is enough torque.. Or are you saying weight of hands on the wheel adds no "torque" on the wheel? My experience is that one hand on the wheel usually works, two hands on the wheel works more often.. but still I get alerted every once in a while. Am I supposed to set a mental timer to actively pull on one side every few seconds?
I'm saying two hands on the wheel could add less torque than one hand, because your left hand torque is cancelling out your right hand torque. Torque means rotational, not downwards force. Personally, I hardly ever get the warning if I just let either arm dangle from one side of the wheel. I don't know how to quantify the amount of torque in text other than to say it's slightly more than nothing and slightly less than enough to override auto-steer. At least in my car that's a decently wide margin.
 
I don't have DDPro - does it by chance forgo hand on wheel nanny when the volume or speed is changed?

I may or may have known of a lil chip you could bury in a Tesla Model 3 steering wheel that would randomly blip the volume or cruise speed up and down imperceptibly every 15 seconds or so to get rid of the silly nanny state to drive your car. It was way better than jamming an orange in the wheel or hanging weights on it (a hypothetical friend of mine said).
It does not.
 
I'm saying two hands on the wheel could add less torque than one hand, because your left hand torque is cancelling out your right hand torque. Torque means rotational, not downwards force. Personally, I hardly ever get the warning if I just let either arm dangle from one side of the wheel. I don't know how to quantify the amount of torque in text other than to say it's slightly more than nothing and slightly less than enough to override auto-steer. At least in my car that's a decently wide margin.
Both other cars I've had with a variant of lane centering (2017 Acura MDX and 2024 BMW X7) were happy about resting a hand on steering wheel. X7, of course, has hands-free on freeways up to 85mph, but requires hands on the wheel for country roads/highways. Both cars were very reliable about detecting hands on the wheel, even though MDX lane centering wasn't all that great when it came to sharp curves. I would have taken MDX' lane centering over Lucid's until this most recent update, but now it is far better. Wish I didn't have to do this "periodic pull" business, and just rest my hands on the wheel.. oh well.
 
Both other cars I've had with a variant of lane centering (2017 Acura MDX and 2024 BMW X7) were happy about resting a hand on steering wheel. X7, of course, has hands-free on freeways up to 85mph, but requires hands on the wheel for country roads/highways. Both cars were very reliable about detecting hands on the wheel, even though MDX lane centering wasn't all that great when it came to sharp curves. I would have taken MDX' lane centering over Lucid's until this most recent update, but now it is far better. Wish I didn't have to do this "periodic pull" business, and just rest my hands on the wheel.. oh well.
hopefully it's a transition period to hands-free, especially since it has the eye sensor. we'll see, I'm sure it will be a while.
 
I guess the question is how much torque is enough torque.. Or are you saying weight of hands on the wheel adds no "torque" on the wheel? My experience is that one hand on the wheel usually works, two hands on the wheel works more often.. but still I get alerted every once in a while. Am I supposed to set a mental timer to actively pull on one side every few seconds?
Not very much. Not that mine should be the example, but I can avoid the constant warning by putting just my left thumb on the bottom of wheel and just applying enough pressure and torque on long straight line drives on freeways.
 
I'm having a weird issue after this update. Sometimes, the car does not recognize that the driver's door is closed and will not allow me to put the car in drive or reverse. I have to open the door and close it again before it recognizes that the door is closed. Has anyone else seen this issue?bs

I'm having a weird issue after this update. Sometimes, the car does not recognize that the driver's door is closed and will not allow me to put the car in drive or reverse. I have to open the door and close it again before it recognizes that the door is closed. Has anyone else seen this issue?
This is an old issue from a few updates ago. It happens to me sometimes as well. I read here that it is being worked on
 
When I first did the update, I noticed a significant increase in efficiency. In the past couple of days, it has dropped precipitously. After the update, I was getting to 4.15. Now I'm lucky to get to 2.6. It's been hotter outside (95-105) so maybe the increased demand on the A/C is what is making the difference.
 
Is anyone else experiencing severe camera lag in the backup cameras? Like 2-3 seconds or more at times. This may not sound serious, but think about it...your camera shows you where your car was 3 seconds ago while you're backing up against a wall...so while you see the car bumper is in the middle of the parking spot, it is actually at the very end! I almost backed my car up into a wall twice and had it not been for the rear brake protection engaging, I'd have serious damage. And there is no way for me to tell when the camera is lagging either! Very unnerving and now I'm scared using the reverse cameras and now have been manually viewing my space outside the car the old fashioned way ..super disappointed
 
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