Standard Dream Drive doesn’t have lane centering?

[davidliu]

Was trying to decide if dream drive pro is necessary but looks like standard version doesn’t even have lane centering?

 

[borski]

Correct. Highway Assist (which includes lane centering) is a Pro feature. It’s also fantastic.

 

[CLTGT]

Correct. Highway Assist (which includes lane centering) is a Pro feature. It’s also fantastic.

So you say... Just keep up the taunting...

 

[HRoussel]

And Dream drive pro is a $13,500 option here in Canada.

I can't understand that a $100K car doesn't have such a feature as standard.

I might very well cancel my reservation due to that. Still waiting on the final Air Pure specs, and a second test drive this winter, to take a decision.

 

[borski]

It uses the LiDAR for centering (part of why it’s so solid) and the LiDAR unit is only installed as part of Pro.

 

[pam4_AGT]

It uses the LiDAR for centering (part of why it’s so solid) and the LiDAR unit is only installed as part of Pro.

@borski, I'm guessing lane centering uses the lane markings on the road. Lidar tells it the distance to an object, not whether there are white or black markings on that object. How on earth is then lidar being used for lane centering?

 

[borski]

@borski, I'm guessing lane centering uses the lane markings on the road. Lidar tells it the distance to an object, not whether there are white or black markings on that object. How on earth is then lidar being used for lane centering?

Lane markings when available, car in front of you when lane markings are unavailable.

 

[Minnesota Mike]

It’s also fantastic

I'm pretty sure previous versions had the lane nanny function that provides some steering resistance when approaching the edge of the lane. What does lane centering provide? Hands free?

 

[borski]

I'm pretty sure previous versions had the lane nanny function that provides some steering resistance when approaching the edge of the lane. What does lane centering provide? Hands free?

Good question! Previously, the lane departure assist tried to warn you and bump you back into the lane you’re in, and worked with or without ACC on. It is still there, and works ok! It’s less aggressive than it used to be. At high speeds, however, if it can’t correct lightly, it will give up and instead try to orient you in the new lane you’ve crossed into. This is the “ping pong” approach someone mentioned earlier. It was still your responsibility to steer.

With Highway Assist, which replaces ACC on highways (though you can switch back and forth if you want to), it actively steers for you. It isn’t “hands free” because it still wants you to keep your hands on the wheel, and will warn you after 6-10 seconds, then *sternly* warn you and sound alarms, and eventually if you don’t put your hands on the wheel it will perform an in-lane stop, open the doors, and turn on the hazards, because it thinks you fell asleep or something happened to you.

But… if your hands are on the wheel you don’t need to do any steering! It will steer for you, and you’re just responsible for lane changes and ramps.

 

[Mr_rhythm]

Good question! Previously, the lane departure assist tried to warn you and bump you back into the lane you’re in, and worked with or without ACC on. It is still there, and works ok! It’s less aggressive than it used to be. At high speeds, however, if it can’t correct lightly, it will give up and instead try to orient you in the new lane you’ve crossed into. This is the “ping pong” approach someone mentioned earlier. It was still your responsibility to steer.

With Highway Assist, which replaces ACC on highways (though you can switch back and forth if you want to), it actively steers for you. It isn’t “hands free” because it still wants you to keep your hands on the wheel, and will warn you after 6-10 seconds, then *sternly* warn you and sound alarms, and eventually if you don’t put your hands on the wheel it will perform an in-lane stop, open the doors, and turn on the hazards, because it thinks you fell asleep or something happened to you.

But… if your hands are on the wheel you don’t need to do any steering! It will steer for you, and you’re just responsible for lane changes and ramps.

Does one hand steering count or does it require both hands? And do they have to be at 9:3 or can you keep them low at 7:5?

 

[borski]

Does one hand steering count or does it require both hands? And do they have to be at 9:3 or can you keep them low at 7:5?

One hand is fine. You just need to have enough torque on the wheel that it knows you’re there.

 

[davidliu]

One hand is fine. You just need to have enough torque on the wheel that it knows you’re there.

So the Air doesn’t have a capacitive steering wheel? You have to apply turning force to let the car know you’re there, similar to model 3?

 

[borski]

So the Air doesn’t have a capacitive steering wheel? You have to apply turning force to let the car know you’re there, similar to model 3?

Correct, and like any other EV (to my knowledge). I think only a few Mercedes, Audi, and Cadillac are capacitative.

It’s not particularly annoying though. And I’m leaving before you start mentioning counterweights to hack the torque sensing.

 

[davidliu]

Correct, and like any other EV (to my knowledge). I think only a few Mercedes, Audi, and Cadillac are capacitative.

It’s not particularly annoying though. And I’m leaving before you start mentioning counterweights to hack the torque sensing.

It’s a bit disappointing. I thought at this price range, it should be capacitative by default. Rivians are capacitative and it’s a much better experience compare the model 3’s. Do you really how to apply a bit turning every now and then in the Air. Or it can use camera or something else to detect it. How annoying it is compare to Tesla?

 

[borski]

It’s a bit disappointing. I thought at this price range, it should be capacitative by default. Rivians are capacitative and it’s a much better experience compare the model 3’s. Do you really how to apply a bit turning every now and then in the Air. Or it can use camera or something else to detect it. How annoying it is compare to Tesla?

You don’t have to turn it. Applying enough squeezing force is fine. I don’t find it annoying.

 

[davidliu]

You don’t have to turn it. Applying enough squeezing force is fine. I don’t find it annoying.

Great, that’s good to know!

 

[DBV]

And Dream drive pro is a $13,500 option here in Canada.

I can't understand that a $100K car doesn't have such a feature as standard.

I might very well cancel my reservation due to that. Still waiting on the final Air Pure specs, and a second test drive this winter, to take a decision.

So - just normal cruise control without Dream Pro package? Does not even keep you in lane? If that is correct, that is really a bummer for such an expensive car.

 

[gavram]

You don’t have to turn it. Applying enough squeezing force is fine. I don’t find it annoying.

In my Model S just laying my hand on the yoke is enough resistance to keep the nag warning from appearing. Is this the case with Lucid or do you find you need to actually torque the wheel?

 

[Steveinarizona]

So - just normal cruise control without Dream Pro package? Does not even keep you in lane? If that is correct, that is really a bummer for such an expensive car.

I believe it is still adaptive cruise, not dynamic cruise. Just no lane centering. I hope I am right (I am still on the cusp of a decision as to whether to add Pro to my build).

 

[borski]

I believe it is still adaptive cruise, not dynamic cruise. Just no lane centering. I hope I am right (I am still on the cusp of a decision as to whether to add Pro to my build).

Correct.