Observations about the time it takes me to receive my OTA Updates...

[Buffalo Bob]

I have strong ATT 5G and strong WiFi in the garage and receive updates toward the end off rollouts.

Well, whether or not any of this speculation is correct... Since you enjoy both a strong wi-fi signal and a strong AT&T signal, when you get your updates must only reflect where you stand in whatever algorithm(s) Lucid uses to determine the roll-out queue.

 

[borski]

One thing I've noticed is that on my WIFI (which I have a ton off traffic rules for my kids) the Lucid was reporting a number of a issues connecting to different locations while on my network. It appears to use different peer and VPN networks and manages its own DNS. If you are blocking any of those things on your network it could prevent the update. I'm testing this now as previously I've updated via ATT. Yesterday I went through my logs and allowed the Lucid onto a newly created EV network that allows it access to everything. With any luck it will update over WIFI. Plus I want to monitor the traffic to see when/where it's happening.

This was the caveat I mentioned in my post. I’ve done the monitoring; I know which domains it reaches out to, that it opens an OpenVPN connection to Lucid, and where it downloads the firmware update from (Amazon S3).

That’s a lot of different things going on. On a WiFi network with no restrictions, it shouldn’t be an issue; I watched it download the 6 gigs or so for the last update over WiFi.

Many WiFi networks block various things; like VPN (so that they can snoop), various domains they consider unsafe, and so on. But with an open DNS server and no restrictions, it should work fine over WiFi.

LTE has no restrictions unless you manually set some DNS servers, so it will “always” work, as long as you have service.

I suspect that’s the difference you’re seeing. Do you have any “security” or “content blocking” features turned on on your home network?

 

[scal_air]

Buffalo Bob, the simple solution is that you need to drive your Lucid more often - I would be happy to blow the carbon off the Bugatti valves for you, LMK

 

[lucidtouringman]

Hi, @lucidtouringman! Anything to report on your experiment?

I parked in good att service area for 6hrs and no update yet. Maybe the car has to be in and driven? I also would wake up the car every hour or so to ensure it has service. Now it's back in the garage connected to WI-FI.

 

[borski]

I parked in good att service area for 6hrs and no update yet. Maybe the car has to be in and driven? I also would wake up the car every hour or so to ensure it has service. Now it's back in the garage connected to WI-FI.

Ah, you forgot to click your heels, spin 3 times, and whisper and make offering to the cloud god.

 

[EVCar]

You may be right, but it is conceivable that some cars might never be connected to a wi-fi signal, but any car on the road in the US would likely encounter an AT&T signal at times.

Why don't you head out to breakfast in a nearby AT&T hot zone, have a nice breakfast, and let us know what happens? It's a beautiful morning in Scottsdale!

I did drive the car this morning, even passing by an AT&T cellular tower.
Still recuperating from some sort of viral syndrome and didn’t want to infect the restaurant so no eating out for me.
No update notice yet, 1 hr post the drive.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

I did drive the car this morning, even passing by an AT&T cellular tower.
Still recuperating from some sort of viral syndrome and didn’t want to infect the restaurant so no eating out for me.
No update notice yet, 1 hr post the drive.

Sorry to hear that you are feeling a bit under the weather. You should at least to be able to sit in the Lucid under a blanket and play with these new features!

 

[EVCar]

Sorry to hear that you are feeling a bit under the weather. You should at least to be able to sit in the Lucid under a blanket and play with these new features!

Thanks, Bob.
Under normal circumstances, I'd have just stayed in bed, but all the discussions about AT&T vs. wi-fi perked my interest and I wanted to see if I can add one more confounding variable to this situation.
Seems to me this is not much of a trade secret, and Lucid can just tell the customers how the update is carried out. Maybe Nick can tweet out something on this.
We're a bunch of Lucid enthusiasts here, ready to devour any knowledge about the cars we enjoy so much.

 

[fisheral]

Thanks, Bob.
Under normal circumstances, I'd have just stayed in bed, but all the discussions about AT&T vs. wi-fi perked my interest and I wanted to see if I can add one more confounding variable to this situation.
Seems to me this is not much of a trade secret, and Lucid can just tell the customers how the update is carried out. Maybe Nick can tweet out something on this.
We're a bunch of Lucid enthusiasts here, ready to devour any knowledge about the cars we enjoy so much.

Mine must have been a hell of a coincidence that I took it from an area with essentially no AT&T reception to a 5G+ five-bar area, and within five or fewer minutes, it notified me of the update.

Is there a way to test whether the car is actually getting good downloads from the wifi? If it doesn't play nice with the wifi (even though it says connected) and I live in an area with no AT&T signal, that might be the problem.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

Mine must have been a hell of a coincidence that I took it from an area with essentially no AT&T reception to a 5G+ five-bar area, and within five or fewer minutes, it notified me of the update.

Is there a way to test whether the car is actually getting good downloads from the wifi? If it doesn't play nice with the wifi (even though it says connected) and I live in an area with no AT&T signal, that might be the problem.

That would be a heck of a coincidence indeed, although as you speculated in your second paragraph, you would have to rule out the wi-fi access problems that @borski has pointed out before you can center on a lack of mobile data as the roadblock. Some people seem to have ready access to details of their wi-fi download activity, including the source. I don't know if they are using something sophisticated, like Home Assistant, or if their wi-fi plan and/or router includes access to such information. I know I can't get that through my HOA's wi-fi arrangement.

 

[lucidtouringman]

Ah, you forgot to click your heels, spin 3 times, and whisper and make offering to the cloud god.

I should have RTFM

 

[elusive7]

Another DP here if it helps at all, I've never connected my '23 Touring to my wifi. Ever. And I'm typically in the middle of getting OTAs. Not the first, but definitely not the last. AT&T is 1 bar in my garage where it is parked and it's the only place I ever get, and do the updates.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

I think OTA Update 2.5.3 validates my original suggestions about potential process improvements. It's a tiny update with one bug fix noted and a projected 30 minute install time, but it first hit this forum eight days ago, and here I sit wondering if I was overlooked, or if I have some other download problem.

(Forget that I was approved for @mcr's early OTA update list, which as far as I can tell was never implemented.)

On a related note, if this tiny update takes over a week, how long will the next really major update take? Given the size of the fleet, I just don't get the timelines involved in recent roll-outs, even when considering that they are probably deliberately staggered at first in order to wait for word of unintended consequences.

I can live with the way things are, but I can't say that I like it.

 

[Unmutual]

Still no 2.5.3 here, either. Just being patient.

 

[borski]

2.5.3 was not for every vehicle. I don’t have it either, fwiw, because it was not meant for my vehicle.