Lucid Home Charger

[Kamikaze]

I installed the Lucid home charger last week, after researching other options I just decided to go for it and bought it online for 1/2 price. I finally got the Wi-Fi working after the troubleshooting options on this forum, so thanks everyone. However, I don't think we talk enough about how basic the charger actually is - there is no way to schedule charging and no way to track electricity usage on the app or through the Wi-Fi portal. I confirmed that my 60amp breaker is charging at 49 amps, but otherwise, the connected aspect is completely useless. How can this thing cost $1200 when you get get a ChargePoint or other charger with this functionality at less than half the cost?

I highly recommend any new buyers stay away, unless your garage can utilize the 80amp capability....

 

[californiaboy935]

I installed the Lucid home charger last week, after researching other options I just decided to go for it and bought it online for 1/2 price. I finally got the Wi-Fi working after the troubleshooting options on this forum, so thanks everyone. However, I don't think we talk enough about how basic the charger actually is - there is no way to schedule charging and no way to track electricity usage on the app or through the Wi-Fi portal. I confirmed that my 60amp breaker is charging at 49 amps, but otherwise, the connected aspect is completely useless. How can this thing cost $1200 when you get get a ChargePoint or other charger with this functionality at less than half the cost?

I highly recommend any new buyers stay away, unless your garage can utilize the 80amp capability....

Further functionality is coming. The 80amp capacity is great, and the car doesn’t need to schedule charge. Just plug in and forget.

The only exception is that @Denali_Dane would like to be able to lower the amp draw via the car or app so his solar could pick up the load, versus the power company. I agree somewhat but don’t see it as a huge disadvantage. (Yes I know the dip switches can change this but it’s a lot of work to unscrew and redo it.

 

[Kamikaze]

I do need to schedule it as I am working on a free nights electric plan with solar. So i will need to plug it in every night after 9 pm. And I saw future functionality is coming, but I believe that has been the case for several years now.

It works well as a "dumb" charger, but for $1200 shouldn't we expect more? I understand the early adopter tax on the Lucid itself, but for the charger itself, I see little reason to have gone with Lucid.

 

[Cossa]

I do need to schedule it as I am working on a free nights electric plan with solar. So i will need to plug it in every night after 9 pm. And I saw future functionality is coming, but I believe that has been the case for several years now.

It works well as a "dumb" charger, but for $1200 shouldn't we expect more? I understand the early adopter tax on the Lucid itself, but for the charger itself, I see little reason to have gone with Lucid.

The car handles scheduling my LHCS with no issues.

 

[californiaboy935]

The car handles scheduling my LHCS with no issues.

Yes, you are right. You can do it from the car.

 

[msaunders9430]

The car handles scheduling my LHCS with no issues.

According to the Owner's Manual, you can schedule charging sessions.
I'm counting on that feature.
I hope I'm not misunderstanding the manual.

 

[californiaboy935]

According to the Owner's Manual, you can schedule charging sessions.
I'm counting on that feature.
I hope I'm not misunderstanding the manual.

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Yes, you can.

 

[bikeriderbryan]

I installed the Lucid home charger last week, after researching other options I just decided to go for it and bought it online for 1/2 price. I finally got the Wi-Fi working after the troubleshooting options on this forum, so thanks everyone. However, I don't think we talk enough about how basic the charger actually is - there is no way to schedule charging and no way to track electricity usage on the app or through the Wi-Fi portal. I confirmed that my 60amp breaker is charging at 49 amps, but otherwise, the connected aspect is completely useless. How can this thing cost $1200 when you get get a ChargePoint or other charger with this functionality at less than half the cost?

I highly recommend any new buyers stay away, unless your garage can utilize the 80amp capability....

Yes I agree it is basically a "dumb" charger. I hate to say but I have recommend other chargers to people.

 

[Denali_Dane]

Further functionality is coming. The 80amp capacity is great, and the car doesn’t need to schedule charge. Just plug in and forget.

The only exception is that @Denali_Dane would like to be able to lower the amp draw via the car or app so his solar could pick up the load, versus the power company. I agree somewhat but don’t see it as a huge disadvantage. (Yes I know the dip switches can change this but it’s a lot of work to unscrew and redo it.

That is my biggest gripe with the home charger.
I would definitely love to easily regulate the amps via the app. I have solar and if I am not in a hurry I can set up a charge time and just let the car slowly charge all day long while the sun is up. But I can't.
The other minor complaint is the app only needs to tell me once that the battery is charged. Not 5 times throughout the night if I forget to unplug it. I get it its kicking on and off throughout the night maintaining the leval of charge but I don't really need to be alerted to that.

 

[Sandvinsd]

Yes I agree it is basically a "dumb" charger. I hate to say but I have recommend other chargers to people.

Yes. Agree 100%. It is a very dumb charger. The only reason to have it is to charge at 80 amps. If you can’t do that, get another charger such as a ChargePoint. Should be able to track energy use, change the amperage, schedule (on time, off time, weekday schedule, weekend schedule), etc.

And Yes…. The car can do scheduling, although primitive - 12h on, 12h off, and if you plug it in 11:59 before off, it will not stop, but continue to charge.

 

[HC_79]

That is my biggest gripe with the home charger.
I would definitely love to easily regulate the amps via the app. I have solar and if I am not in a hurry I can set up a charge time and just let the car slowly charge all day long while the sun is up. But I can't.
The other minor complaint is the app only needs to tell me once that the battery is charged. Not 5 times throughout the night if I forget to unplug it. I get it its kicking on and off throughout the night maintaining the leval of charge but I don't really need to be alerted to that.

You can regulate the amps in the car and in app for Gravity. Hopefully it will come to the Air at some point.

 

[DeaneG]

Note that the Air, and I believe also Gravity, does not work with externally scheduled charging. I believe this is due to the car's hardware design. So while it's unfortunate that Lucid's home charging station can't do scheduled charging, there's also no point to it with a Lucid vehicle. You must schedule charging from within the car.

To use external charge scheduling, for example if you want to charge using only excess solar PV power which fluctuates during the day and sometimes drops out entirely, you'll need to set up something like home assistant to periodically wake the car at intervals when it should be able to charge.

 

[Denali_Dane]

You can regulate the amps in the car and in app for Gravity. Hopefully it will come to the Air at some point.

That would be great