Navigation System on the Lucid, does it really work?

[Cosmo Cruz]

Hum ... this has been an interesting read. Thanks to the contributors.

I do not like the smart-things so really don't know what you folk are talking about with your "google-fruits" and such. I have never used voice commands (thinking of Captn. Kirk: "Computer, take us to the nearest planet with di-lithium crystals. "
.... Mr. Spock: "captain, that is illogical..." )

oldest man in space = 90 yo!

I steer by the stars, which put me in the general direction, and let me discover places which I'd otherwise never see. But on trips, I do my research at home on this laptop, finding the chargers and local interest in the calm of home, and seeing what is near and about the route. Then I just head-out, with no more than a general idea in my head.

This gets us mostly there.

(playing in my head now is the brief ditty on Joe Walsh's "The Smoker you Drink the Player you Get":

"Where are we going?
"Where are we now?
"Will it be over?
"Will we make it somehow?" ( Daydream (prayer) )

(for you young-'uns: the plane is upside down)

 

[Cosmo Cruz]

The inspiration for early- adopting the Lucid:

 

[Lucken]

Hum ... this has been an interesting read. Thanks to the contributors.

I do not like the smart-things so really don't know what you folk are talking about with your "google-fruits" and such. I have never used voice commands (thinking of Captn. Kirk: "Computer, take us to the nearest planet with di-lithium crystals. "
.... Mr. Spock: "captain, that is illogical..." )
View attachment 21577View attachment 21578oldest man in space = 90 yo!

I steer by the stars, which put me in the general direction, and let me discover places which I'd otherwise never see. But on trips, I do my research at home on this laptop, finding the chargers and local interest in the calm of home, and seeing what is near and about the route. Then I just head-out, with no more than a general idea in my head.

This gets us mostly there.

(playing in my head now is the brief ditty on Joe Walsh's "The Smoker you Drink the Player you Get":

"Where are we going?
"Where are we now?
"Will it be over?
"Will we make it somehow?" ( Daydream (prayer) )
View attachment 21576 (for you young-'uns: the plane is upside down)

It’s amazing how alert, ‘with it’ and good he looks for a guy who’s 93 years old!

 

[ferrisfa]

Don’t know if my experience is unique. But the navigation system on my Lucid is unbelievably unreliable. Honestly, it never really worked since Day 1 (16 month ago). Specifically,

• It “locks up” often…i.e., total unresponsive to any inputs.
• Sometimes it works…you can access it on the front display and on the Pilot Panel.
• Often, there is no destination input box (for destination) and no (tactile) way to input a destination.
• SOMEIMES when there is no tactile input, one can use Alexa to send in a command. However, that’s by no means guaranteed.
• Even when working, the navigation is laggy and close to being totally useless.
• I don’t care for the navigation display (grey-ongrey), but you can call that a personal preference (and suck it up).

My questions:

• Do many of you Lucid owners experience the kind of problems I encountered? Is my experience unique?
• I am an Android user. Now that Lucid supports CarPlay, are most of you iPhone users (80% of the Lucid owners) using CarPlay for navigation instead?
• Is the navigation system on the Lucid a lost cause?

I have not had the same issues but I find the routes from the nav system to be unreliable at times and often a roundabout path. I prefer to use my Google Maps on my phone. I'm hoping Android Auto is available soon.

 

[McGriddle]

I've been using the Lucid nav for most of my driving and I find it to be quite useful most of the time. Its routing is certainly less efficient than Google, Apple, or Waze, but I like the interface and the use of both top and bottom screens.

When there is an error with the Lucid nav, it tends to be placing the destination a little ways away from the actual. Often, it's suggesting that the location is on the wrong side of the street or perhaps a half block away. To be fair, I often find Apple Maps to route me to the back entrance of POIs for some reason. Google Maps remains the most precise.

I do really like it's EV charger navigation since it also gives the number of open chargers (though it again may place you in the wrong area of the lot for example).

Relative to the other apps, it seems to take less turns overall to make simpler route options--at least certainly compared to Waze which saves more time but makes routes a bit more burdensome. What I miss compared to Apple Maps is the Apple Watch connectivity where Apple Maps will tap your wrist when a turn is upcoming, which is helpful when you have voice instructions off.

My main wish (actually for all the other apps) is to have integrated police, construction, and hazard reporting like from Waze.

 

[borski]

I've been using the Lucid nav for most of my driving and I find it to be quite useful most of the time. Its routing is certainly less efficient than Google, Apple, or Waze, but I like the interface and the use of both top and bottom screens.

When there is an error with the Lucid nav, it tends to be placing the destination a little ways away from the actual. Often, it's suggesting that the location is on the wrong side of the street or perhaps a half block away. To be fair, I often find Apple Maps to route me to the back entrance of POIs for some reason. Google Maps remains the most precise.

I do really like it's EV charger navigation since it also gives the number of open chargers (though it again may place you in the wrong area of the lot for example).

Relative to the other apps, it seems to take less turns overall to make simpler route options--at least certainly compared to Waze which saves more time but makes routes a bit more burdensome. What I miss compared to Apple Maps is the Apple Watch connectivity where Apple Maps will tap your wrist when a turn is upcoming, which is helpful when you have voice instructions off.

My main wish (actually for all the other apps) is to have integrated police, construction, and hazard reporting like from Waze.

Recently, I learned that if you leave Waze on in the background, even if you aren’t actively navigating using Waze, it will notice you’re driving and make announcements about hazards and cops despite you not navigating through it. Super neat once you know about it, but really jarring when you don’t, haha

 

[scal_air]

Yeah, I blamed the new update for announcing all railroad tracks - kinda irritating. Only later did I realize that my iphone with waze was connected to my car and not my Android phone!!!

 

[McGriddle]

I totally forgot about having Waze on in the background. I need to try that again!

 

[skndrni]

So I didn’t like Lucid nav at first. “Non-optimized” is actually ultra optimized for EV, taking into account elevation. But common sense and familiarity with your area allows you to ignore and “lose” 1-2% efficiency to save miles and minutes.

Now I have a different issue: when using CarPlay nav, it spins the map and seems to be having trouble with reception on the actual phone. When it does that, I’ve just used Lucid nav and that issue doesn’t arise.

 

[coma24]

I used to swear by Google Maps and Android Auto. The factory nav in the Hyundai Palisade is great, though, and I came to accept that not all factory nav is terrible. Once the Lucid arrived, I was preprared for a disastrous nav experience based on all the posts here. In fact, I've been pretty thrilled with it (granted, I wasn't here for the 1.x software issues). Response time is fine. Recently it was updated to continuously show alternate route options with time and energy deltas for those routes.

Using the Nav with both screens at once is a WINNER. You have short range and long range views simultaneously, with 'just the next step' on the top display, and 'many of the next steps' (optional) on the lower display. The situational awareness is great.

I've only used it for longish trips once or twice, and it was along routes I've driven in the past, but each of the 3 route choices if presented were the same as Google Maps. No toll info (that I could see), so it's good to verify that info via Google Maps first when it's a factor, but overall, I'm very happy with it. Between that, and Tidal, I don't have any real intention of using Android Auto when it becomes available.

The only significant issue has been sharing destinations from Google Maps ahead of times. In most cases it's navigated to a slightly different destination, usually because it can't resolve the street or POI name, so it silently reverts to center of town, or something like that.

Haven't tried voice for entering destinations, but the search interface is just fine for me, especially the lower keyboard which is sizeable, AND support swype.