My first week with my Gravity Dream Edition

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My overall impression is positive, but there are a bunch of little things that aren't right, or that I need to adapt to, or I just haven't learned yet. I am perfectly aware that as a DE purchaser, I have volunteered to be an unpaid beta tester, so I'm clear on what the deal is. But a few things are causing me an insufficient amount of delight. In no particular order:
  • At first I thought I just hadn't figured out the windshield washer, but it turns out the water pump for that feature isn't working. I've booked a service appointment for a couple of weeks from now when I'll be out of town anyway, so it's relatively little hassle.
  • Dream Drive Pro, combined with massaging seats, makes four hour continuous runs basically no hassle at all. I still haven't figured out whether I'm allowed to take my hands off the wheel as long as I'm looking forward. Sometimes it seems to work either way.
  • Charging is a vexation. I was encouraged by the "plug and charge" feature, where you stick the charger in and the car and the charger just figure it out together and we do a simple exchange of current for currency. We've been to about six different chargers now, and sampled CCS, J1772 AC, and NACS. No one seems to have delivered the full advertised power, and the charging transaction always requires me to tell the app which charger I'm at. Example: A midday Sunday charging session at a Tesla V4 supercharger in Pittsburgh topped out at 225 kW, when it's rated for 325 kW, and it was still necessary to tell the app which specific charger I was plugged into.
  • The third row seats don't seem to fold readily. My assumption from reading the manual is that you:
    1. Pull the long strap to drop the headrest and fold the seat forwards.
    2. Put the lower floor cover aside for a moment.
    3. Pull the big handle on the back of the seat up and a little back.
    4. Put the seats into the well.
    5. Replace the lower floor cover.
    6. Call the dog over to go for a ride. It seems that something goes wrong between steps 3 and 4, and the folding thing never happens. The dog is very disappointed, and so am I.
  • I have no procedure to turn the car the *#**@$! off. I can park, lock, fold the mirrors, etc., but as a former aviator, I am deeply ambivalent about walking away from a hot panel. My preference would be to have everything cold and dark before I get out, and then lock the car from the outside with the key fob. Why can't I have that?
  • The key fob is basically useless. I have to hit any of the buttons an unreasonable number of times to get it to do anything, when it deigns to do so.
  • The app is amazingly slow to "wake up" the car. I have performed CPR in the field and resuscitated patients in less time.
  • The preferences for some things (seat and mirror positions for different drivers) are sticky - they work as expected and recognize which of us is driving. Other items (stop mode, regen mode, ride height, etc.) seem to make their own decisions. It'd be great if they didn't do that.
  • The rear hatch opening function is intermittent as well. Sometimes it opens when I press the button, sometimes it makes a noise which I interpret as "I would prefer not to open at this time."
  • The AutoPark feature is interesting, and the crawling around the parking lot or roadside letting the car patiently search for spaces is a good way to annoy all the other drivers around you (which, tbh, isn't necessarily a dealbreaker). What isn't made clear is that system will generate, on the overhead view in the lower display, a little "P in the inverted teardrop" symbol, superimposed over the parking space it wants. If you reach over and touch that symbol carefully, it'll select it, and then you can let the car do its thing and park for you. But no place in the documentation offers a clear picture of what the last step in the AutoPark process is supposed to look like. A better system might offer you a schematic of all the potential parking spaces around you, and then let you, after selecting one, look at the overhead view so you can check for obstacles.
I'm sounding crankier than I actually am, to be fair. It's a great car, and every time I stop at a Tesla supercharger, people come over and want to see the car. That's kinda fun. And a lot of software things will get better as we go along, I know. CarPlay will remove a lot of my hassle when it deploys, and I'm looking forward to that, and it's possible that I'm implicitly dragging my feet on adapting to a new interface while I wait for a more familiar one.

And it is so fast. I've barely had it out of "Smooth" mode, and it's already capable of just effortlessly pulling to license-endangering speeds.

If any of you good folks have workarounds for any of this stuff I mentioned above, I'd be most grateful for how you've adapted. Much obliged.
 
Example: A midday Sunday charging session at a Tesla V4 supercharger in Pittsburgh topped out at 225 kW, when it's rated for 325 kW, and it was still necessary to tell the app which specific charger I was plugged into.
There are no true V4 superchargers yet. The "V4" superchargers that exist are V4 dispensers with V3 cabinets so they are still ~500V chargers with a 500A current limit (for non-Tesla vehicles, Tesla vehicles can pull more). The Gravity is limited to 225kW on ALL available Tesla Superchargers. Tesla does not make any vehicles that would benefit from 1000V chargers so deployment will probably be slow.
I have no procedure to turn the car the *#**@$! off. I can park, lock, fold the mirrors, etc., but as a former aviator, I am deeply ambivalent about walking away from a hot panel. My preference would be to have everything cold and dark before I get out, and then lock the car from the outside with the key fob. Why can't I have that?
It's funny, this is one of my favorite things about my Tesla, no on/off button. Who's got time for that? Just open the door and it goes into park, shut the door and walk away. Just kidding, I do usually press the park button but I think I open the door at the same time so it often warns me that it put it in park automatically.

Hopefully they get all the software stuff ironed out. I'm not sure OTA updates were a good idea... just made software designers lazier.
 
There are no true V4 superchargers yet. The "V4" superchargers that exist are V4 dispensers with V3 cabinets so they are still ~500V chargers with a 500A current limit (for non-Tesla vehicles, Tesla vehicles can pull more). The Gravity is limited to 225kW on ALL available Tesla Superchargers. Tesla does not make any vehicles that would benefit from 1000V chargers so deployment will probably be slow.
The Cybertruck has an 800V architecture, and benefits from V4 Superchargers. They don't make a lot of them, but they do exist...

... the V4 supply cabinets do not appear to yet be deployed, however. They seem to be on the typical Musk schedule of "announce for next quarter, ship 5 years later".
 
My overall impression is positive, but there are a bunch of little things that aren't right, or that I need to adapt to, or I just haven't learned yet. I am perfectly aware that as a DE purchaser, I have volunteered to be an unpaid beta tester, so I'm clear on what the deal is. But a few things are causing me an insufficient amount of delight. In no particular order:
  • At first I thought I just hadn't figured out the windshield washer, but it turns out the water pump for that feature isn't working. I've booked a service appointment for a couple of weeks from now when I'll be out of town anyway, so it's relatively little hassle.
  • Dream Drive Pro, combined with massaging seats, makes four hour continuous runs basically no hassle at all. I still haven't figured out whether I'm allowed to take my hands off the wheel as long as I'm looking forward. Sometimes it seems to work either way.
  • Charging is a vexation. I was encouraged by the "plug and charge" feature, where you stick the charger in and the car and the charger just figure it out together and we do a simple exchange of current for currency. We've been to about six different chargers now, and sampled CCS, J1772 AC, and NACS. No one seems to have delivered the full advertised power, and the charging transaction always requires me to tell the app which charger I'm at. Example: A midday Sunday charging session at a Tesla V4 supercharger in Pittsburgh topped out at 225 kW, when it's rated for 325 kW, and it was still necessary to tell the app which specific charger I was plugged into.
  • The third row seats don't seem to fold readily. My assumption from reading the manual is that you:
    1. Pull the long strap to drop the headrest and fold the seat forwards.
    2. Put the lower floor cover aside for a moment.
    3. Pull the big handle on the back of the seat up and a little back.
    4. Put the seats into the well.
    5. Replace the lower floor cover.
    6. Call the dog over to go for a ride. It seems that something goes wrong between steps 3 and 4, and the folding thing never happens. The dog is very disappointed, and so am I.
  • I have no procedure to turn the car the *#**@$! off. I can park, lock, fold the mirrors, etc., but as a former aviator, I am deeply ambivalent about walking away from a hot panel. My preference would be to have everything cold and dark before I get out, and then lock the car from the outside with the key fob. Why can't I have that?
  • The key fob is basically useless. I have to hit any of the buttons an unreasonable number of times to get it to do anything, when it deigns to do so.
  • The app is amazingly slow to "wake up" the car. I have performed CPR in the field and resuscitated patients in less time.
  • The preferences for some things (seat and mirror positions for different drivers) are sticky - they work as expected and recognize which of us is driving. Other items (stop mode, regen mode, ride height, etc.) seem to make their own decisions. It'd be great if they didn't do that.
  • The rear hatch opening function is intermittent as well. Sometimes it opens when I press the button, sometimes it makes a noise which I interpret as "I would prefer not to open at this time."
  • The AutoPark feature is interesting, and the crawling around the parking lot or roadside letting the car patiently search for spaces is a good way to annoy all the other drivers around you (which, tbh, isn't necessarily a dealbreaker). What isn't made clear is that system will generate, on the overhead view in the lower display, a little "P in the inverted teardrop" symbol, superimposed over the parking space it wants. If you reach over and touch that symbol carefully, it'll select it, and then you can let the car do its thing and park for you. But no place in the documentation offers a clear picture of what the last step in the AutoPark process is supposed to look like. A better system might offer you a schematic of all the potential parking spaces around you, and then let you, after selecting one, look at the overhead view so you can check for obstacles.
I'm sounding crankier than I actually am, to be fair. It's a great car, and every time I stop at a Tesla supercharger, people come over and want to see the car. That's kinda fun. And a lot of software things will get better as we go along, I know. CarPlay will remove a lot of my hassle when it deploys, and I'm looking forward to that, and it's possible that I'm implicitly dragging my feet on adapting to a new interface while I wait for a more familiar one.

And it is so fast. I've barely had it out of "Smooth" mode, and it's already capable of just effortlessly pulling to license-endangering speeds.

If any of you good folks have workarounds for any of this stuff I mentioned above, I'd be most grateful for how you've adapted. Much obliged.
As someone mentioned, you will see 225kw max at Tesla SC. Nothing more until true V4 SC stations deploy. Plug and Play has worked perfectly for the two networks that Lucid has it setup for, Tesla and Electrify America. Everything else will require swipe/tap to pay or apps. If your plug and ply isn't working, check to make sure you have payment setup in your Lucid app.

It's taking a bit of getting used to for me to walk away and let it turn off, but I think I'm there now. My Taycan had a button to power it off. You can also hit the lock button on your keyfob and it will immediately power down and lock up.

I agree with some of your other things, like I don't really care for the wipers as they don't do a good job wiping at all, leaving steaks and mess on the windshield and the wash isn't too good either. I'm going to change the blades and see if that helps. I haven't tried the auto park as I haven't seen that work too well with any car on the market right now.
 
You'll get used to just walking away from the locked EV, trusting it to fully shut down.
This later becomes an issue when renting a gas car. You'll walk away from it with the engine still running.
 
My overall impression is positive, but there are a bunch of little things that aren't right, or that I need to adapt to, or I just haven't learned yet. I am perfectly aware that as a DE purchaser, I have volunteered to be an unpaid beta tester, so I'm clear on what the deal is. But a few things are causing me an insufficient amount of delight. In no particular order:
  • At first I thought I just hadn't figured out the windshield washer, but it turns out the water pump for that feature isn't working. I've booked a service appointment for a couple of weeks from now when I'll be out of town anyway, so it's relatively little hassle.
  • Dream Drive Pro, combined with massaging seats, makes four hour continuous runs basically no hassle at all. I still haven't figured out whether I'm allowed to take my hands off the wheel as long as I'm looking forward. Sometimes it seems to work either way.
  • Charging is a vexation. I was encouraged by the "plug and charge" feature, where you stick the charger in and the car and the charger just figure it out together and we do a simple exchange of current for currency. We've been to about six different chargers now, and sampled CCS, J1772 AC, and NACS. No one seems to have delivered the full advertised power, and the charging transaction always requires me to tell the app which charger I'm at. Example: A midday Sunday charging session at a Tesla V4 supercharger in Pittsburgh topped out at 225 kW, when it's rated for 325 kW, and it was still necessary to tell the app which specific charger I was plugged into.
  • The third row seats don't seem to fold readily. My assumption from reading the manual is that you:
    1. Pull the long strap to drop the headrest and fold the seat forwards.
    2. Put the lower floor cover aside for a moment.
    3. Pull the big handle on the back of the seat up and a little back.
    4. Put the seats into the well.
    5. Replace the lower floor cover.
    6. Call the dog over to go for a ride. It seems that something goes wrong between steps 3 and 4, and the folding thing never happens. The dog is very disappointed, and so am I.
  • I have no procedure to turn the car the *#**@$! off. I can park, lock, fold the mirrors, etc., but as a former aviator, I am deeply ambivalent about walking away from a hot panel. My preference would be to have everything cold and dark before I get out, and then lock the car from the outside with the key fob. Why can't I have that?
  • The key fob is basically useless. I have to hit any of the buttons an unreasonable number of times to get it to do anything, when it deigns to do so.
  • The app is amazingly slow to "wake up" the car. I have performed CPR in the field and resuscitated patients in less time.
  • The preferences for some things (seat and mirror positions for different drivers) are sticky - they work as expected and recognize which of us is driving. Other items (stop mode, regen mode, ride height, etc.) seem to make their own decisions. It'd be great if they didn't do that.
  • The rear hatch opening function is intermittent as well. Sometimes it opens when I press the button, sometimes it makes a noise which I interpret as "I would prefer not to open at this time."
  • The AutoPark feature is interesting, and the crawling around the parking lot or roadside letting the car patiently search for spaces is a good way to annoy all the other drivers around you (which, tbh, isn't necessarily a dealbreaker). What isn't made clear is that system will generate, on the overhead view in the lower display, a little "P in the inverted teardrop" symbol, superimposed over the parking space it wants. If you reach over and touch that symbol carefully, it'll select it, and then you can let the car do its thing and park for you. But no place in the documentation offers a clear picture of what the last step in the AutoPark process is supposed to look like. A better system might offer you a schematic of all the potential parking spaces around you, and then let you, after selecting one, look at the overhead view so you can check for obstacles.
I'm sounding crankier than I actually am, to be fair. It's a great car, and every time I stop at a Tesla supercharger, people come over and want to see the car. That's kinda fun. And a lot of software things will get better as we go along, I know. CarPlay will remove a lot of my hassle when it deploys, and I'm looking forward to that, and it's possible that I'm implicitly dragging my feet on adapting to a new interface while I wait for a more familiar one.

And it is so fast. I've barely had it out of "Smooth" mode, and it's already capable of just effortlessly pulling to license-endangering speeds.

If any of you good folks have workarounds for any of this stuff I mentioned above, I'd be most grateful for how you've adapted. Much obliged.
These are great comments and I look forward to hearing from others as I'd like to know these things ahead of time when I receive mine.
 
There are no true V4 superchargers yet. The "V4" superchargers that exist are V4 dispensers with V3 cabinets so they are still ~500V chargers with a 500A current limit (for non-Tesla vehicles, Tesla vehicles can pull more). The Gravity is limited to 225kW on ALL available Tesla Superchargers. Tesla does not make any vehicles that would benefit from 1000V chargers so deployment will probably be slow.

It's funny, this is one of my favorite things about my Tesla, no on/off button. Who's got time for that? Just open the door and it goes into park, shut the door and walk away. Just kidding, I do usually press the park button but I think I open the door at the same time so it often warns me that it put it in park automatically.

Hopefully they get all the software stuff ironed out. I'm not sure OTA updates were a good idea... just made software designers lazier.
Same here. I don't even think about power 'off' when I exit my Model X. As I walk away, if watching from a distance, it all goes dark. Unless 'dog' mode...then the puppy stays on the screen telling folks, everything is okay for the dog.
 
The Cybertruck has an 800V architecture, and benefits from V4 Superchargers. They don't make a lot of them, but they do exist...

... the V4 supply cabinets do not appear to yet be deployed, however. They seem to be on the typical Musk schedule of "announce for next quarter, ship 5 years later".
The difference is very small if there is one. It pulls the same ~325kW up to about 20% SoC that it does from V3.5 chargers.
 
At least one workaround found!

If you double-tap the "lock" button on the key fob, from outside the car, it appears reliably to lock all four doors, fold the mirrors, and power down the panel. Not my first choice, but at least I can verify that it's cleared to neutral before I step away.

I think I have to take back my fifth point in my original post, and perhaps my sixth.
 
I don't think any are active yet -- the V4 full stack is theoretically a 500kW charger. There are 3 verified to be in permitting as per supercharge.info and TMC forums: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/search/16385002/?q=V4+cabinet&o=relevance
There are a few 1000V NACS chargers out there and the Cybertruck doesn't charge any faster on them than it does on V3.5 Superchargers. It's limited by the crappiness of 4680 cells (very happy Lucid decided to go with tried and true 2170s)

Even the Gravity is only 6 minutes faster on 400kW chargers than it is on Superchargers.
 
My overall impression is positive, but there are a bunch of little things that aren't right, or that I need to adapt to, or I just haven't learned yet. I am perfectly aware that as a DE purchaser, I have volunteered to be an unpaid beta tester, so I'm clear on what the deal is. But a few things are causing me an insufficient amount of delight. In no particular order:
  • At first I thought I just hadn't figured out the windshield washer, but it turns out the water pump for that feature isn't working. I've booked a service appointment for a couple of weeks from now when I'll be out of town anyway, so it's relatively little hassle.
  • Dream Drive Pro, combined with massaging seats, makes four hour continuous runs basically no hassle at all. I still haven't figured out whether I'm allowed to take my hands off the wheel as long as I'm looking forward. Sometimes it seems to work either way.
  • Charging is a vexation. I was encouraged by the "plug and charge" feature, where you stick the charger in and the car and the charger just figure it out together and we do a simple exchange of current for currency. We've been to about six different chargers now, and sampled CCS, J1772 AC, and NACS. No one seems to have delivered the full advertised power, and the charging transaction always requires me to tell the app which charger I'm at. Example: A midday Sunday charging session at a Tesla V4 supercharger in Pittsburgh topped out at 225 kW, when it's rated for 325 kW, and it was still necessary to tell the app which specific charger I was plugged into.
  • The third row seats don't seem to fold readily. My assumption from reading the manual is that you:
    1. Pull the long strap to drop the headrest and fold the seat forwards.
    2. Put the lower floor cover aside for a moment.
    3. Pull the big handle on the back of the seat up and a little back.
    4. Put the seats into the well.
    5. Replace the lower floor cover.
    6. Call the dog over to go for a ride. It seems that something goes wrong between steps 3 and 4, and the folding thing never happens. The dog is very disappointed, and so am I.
  • I have no procedure to turn the car the *#**@$! off. I can park, lock, fold the mirrors, etc., but as a former aviator, I am deeply ambivalent about walking away from a hot panel. My preference would be to have everything cold and dark before I get out, and then lock the car from the outside with the key fob. Why can't I have that?
  • The key fob is basically useless. I have to hit any of the buttons an unreasonable number of times to get it to do anything, when it deigns to do so.
  • The app is amazingly slow to "wake up" the car. I have performed CPR in the field and resuscitated patients in less time.
  • The preferences for some things (seat and mirror positions for different drivers) are sticky - they work as expected and recognize which of us is driving. Other items (stop mode, regen mode, ride height, etc.) seem to make their own decisions. It'd be great if they didn't do that.
  • The rear hatch opening function is intermittent as well. Sometimes it opens when I press the button, sometimes it makes a noise which I interpret as "I would prefer not to open at this time."
  • The AutoPark feature is interesting, and the crawling around the parking lot or roadside letting the car patiently search for spaces is a good way to annoy all the other drivers around you (which, tbh, isn't necessarily a dealbreaker). What isn't made clear is that system will generate, on the overhead view in the lower display, a little "P in the inverted teardrop" symbol, superimposed over the parking space it wants. If you reach over and touch that symbol carefully, it'll select it, and then you can let the car do its thing and park for you. But no place in the documentation offers a clear picture of what the last step in the AutoPark process is supposed to look like. A better system might offer you a schematic of all the potential parking spaces around you, and then let you, after selecting one, look at the overhead view so you can check for obstacles.
I'm sounding crankier than I actually am, to be fair. It's a great car, and every time I stop at a Tesla supercharger, people come over and want to see the car. That's kinda fun. And a lot of software things will get better as we go along, I know. CarPlay will remove a lot of my hassle when it deploys, and I'm looking forward to that, and it's possible that I'm implicitly dragging my feet on adapting to a new interface while I wait for a more familiar one.

And it is so fast. I've barely had it out of "Smooth" mode, and it's already capable of just effortlessly pulling to license-endangering speeds.

If any of you good folks have workarounds for any of this stuff I mentioned above, I'd be most grateful for how you've adapted. Much obliged.
Thank you for the intel. It's a bit disheartening to see that some of the chronical bugs in the Air, are present here as well: entry issues (key fob) and the slow app wake up.
 
  • The app is amazingly slow to "wake up" the car. I have performed CPR in the field and resuscitated patients in less time.
I genuinely laughed out loud reading that, having been there myself (doing the resuscitation, not being resuscitated). Have you tried disabling passive unlock in the settings and just walking up to the car and pushing the door handles in? I have no idea if that will work, I don’t have my Gravity yet, but it did work for somebody here.
 
My overall impression is positive, but there are a bunch of little things that aren't right, or that I need to adapt to, or I just haven't learned yet. I am perfectly aware that as a DE purchaser, I have volunteered to be an unpaid beta tester, so I'm clear on what the deal is. But a few things are causing me an insufficient amount of delight. In no particular order:
  • At first I thought I just hadn't figured out the windshield washer, but it turns out the water pump for that feature isn't working. I've booked a service appointment for a couple of weeks from now when I'll be out of town anyway, so it's relatively little hassle.
  • Dream Drive Pro, combined with massaging seats, makes four hour continuous runs basically no hassle at all. I still haven't figured out whether I'm allowed to take my hands off the wheel as long as I'm looking forward. Sometimes it seems to work either way.
  • Charging is a vexation. I was encouraged by the "plug and charge" feature, where you stick the charger in and the car and the charger just figure it out together and we do a simple exchange of current for currency. We've been to about six different chargers now, and sampled CCS, J1772 AC, and NACS. No one seems to have delivered the full advertised power, and the charging transaction always requires me to tell the app which charger I'm at. Example: A midday Sunday charging session at a Tesla V4 supercharger in Pittsburgh topped out at 225 kW, when it's rated for 325 kW, and it was still necessary to tell the app which specific charger I was plugged into.
  • The third row seats don't seem to fold readily. My assumption from reading the manual is that you:
    1. Pull the long strap to drop the headrest and fold the seat forwards.
    2. Put the lower floor cover aside for a moment.
    3. Pull the big handle on the back of the seat up and a little back.
    4. Put the seats into the well.
    5. Replace the lower floor cover.
    6. Call the dog over to go for a ride. It seems that something goes wrong between steps 3 and 4, and the folding thing never happens. The dog is very disappointed, and so am I.
  • I have no procedure to turn the car the *#**@$! off. I can park, lock, fold the mirrors, etc., but as a former aviator, I am deeply ambivalent about walking away from a hot panel. My preference would be to have everything cold and dark before I get out, and then lock the car from the outside with the key fob. Why can't I have that?
  • The key fob is basically useless. I have to hit any of the buttons an unreasonable number of times to get it to do anything, when it deigns to do so.
  • The app is amazingly slow to "wake up" the car. I have performed CPR in the field and resuscitated patients in less time.
  • The preferences for some things (seat and mirror positions for different drivers) are sticky - they work as expected and recognize which of us is driving. Other items (stop mode, regen mode, ride height, etc.) seem to make their own decisions. It'd be great if they didn't do that.
  • The rear hatch opening function is intermittent as well. Sometimes it opens when I press the button, sometimes it makes a noise which I interpret as "I would prefer not to open at this time."
  • The AutoPark feature is interesting, and the crawling around the parking lot or roadside letting the car patiently search for spaces is a good way to annoy all the other drivers around you (which, tbh, isn't necessarily a dealbreaker). What isn't made clear is that system will generate, on the overhead view in the lower display, a little "P in the inverted teardrop" symbol, superimposed over the parking space it wants. If you reach over and touch that symbol carefully, it'll select it, and then you can let the car do its thing and park for you. But no place in the documentation offers a clear picture of what the last step in the AutoPark process is supposed to look like. A better system might offer you a schematic of all the potential parking spaces around you, and then let you, after selecting one, look at the overhead view so you can check for obstacles.
I'm sounding crankier than I actually am, to be fair. It's a great car, and every time I stop at a Tesla supercharger, people come over and want to see the car. That's kinda fun. And a lot of software things will get better as we go along, I know. CarPlay will remove a lot of my hassle when it deploys, and I'm looking forward to that, and it's possible that I'm implicitly dragging my feet on adapting to a new interface while I wait for a more familiar one.

And it is so fast. I've barely had it out of "Smooth" mode, and it's already capable of just effortlessly pulling to license-endangering speeds.

If any of you good folks have workarounds for any of this stuff I mentioned above, I'd be most grateful for how you've adapted. Much obliged.
 
As for the key fob. I am an Air driver who finds it very useful. Let me explain. I have not linked my iphone with the car as a key because i often leave the phone in the car while i run into a store for 10 minutes. Instead i rely solely on the key in my pocket. (not the app). Usually when i get within 40 feet of the car the car senses the key and unlocks and light flash etc. Altho, if the car has been sleep awhile (like overnite) sometimes it does not unlock until i push on the driver door handle. Then after i have finished a drive, I simply put the car in park and leave and as soon as i am about 40 feet away it locks and turns off lights. Note that many other brands of EV work similiary except the car doesnt detect the key until within 20 feet. Also, you might want to check to see exactly what the distance is for your vehicle. I make a point to store my key at the far end of the house when parked overnite. I dont want the car thinking it needs to be ready to roll all nite long. Some folks on this forum put their keys in a Faraday pouch overnite so the car doesnt sense the key. I havent found any use for pushing the button on the key fob but i suppose some folks have. Hope that is all reasonably clear.
 
I genuinely laughed out loud reading that, having been there myself (doing the resuscitation, not being resuscitated). Have you tried disabling passive unlock in the settings and just walking up to the car and pushing the door handles in? I have no idea if that will work, I don’t have my Gravity yet, but it did work for somebody here.
The app is abysmally slow at waking the Gravity up. Air will be like 10 seconds. Gravity is at least 60+. Have no idea why.
 
because i often leave the phone in the car while i run into a store for 10 minutes
You clearly don’t live in CA. Your window would be smashed and phone gone in 2 mins if you left it in the car 😂
 
You clearly don’t live in CA. Your window would be smashed and phone gone in 2 mins if you left it in the car 😂
Yeah seriously! I left my laptop in the front seat once and swore I’d come back to nothing and a broken windshield.

Luckily I escaped, if only just!
 
You clearly don’t live in CA. Your window would be smashed and phone gone in 2 mins if you left it in the car 😂
You're right. I dont live in regular California. I live in Marin County, and spend most of my time in Tiburon/Belvedere where auto burglary is out of fashion.
 
Another update: I've worked out the seat folding procedure. While it'd be great to be able to do it with one hand, two seem to work best.
  1. Pull the long strap to drop the headrest and fold the seat forwards.
  2. Put the lower floor cover aside for a moment.
  3. Pull the big handle on the back of the seat up and a little back with the left hand while lifting upwards a bit. With the right hand, grab the base of the seat or the crossbeam just below it and pull that back at the same time. Seems to fold right up when you do that. Again, a clear image of someone actually doing it would improve the documentation.
 
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