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Lucid Air vs. Mercedes EQS

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I just talked with my local Mercedes dealer to see when they expect their first EQS to be available for viewing and test driving. They told me that, although nothing has been said publicly yet, MB is pushing the launch of the EQS into next year due to chip shortages. He said the ICE version of the S-Class is being similarly delayed.
 

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I decided to check with another MB dealer to see if I got the same take on release dates. This dealer told me that a Mercedes executive was in their dealership yesterday and talked about the EQS. He said there are two cars in the U.S. right now being test driven in the New York area by MB executives. While the salesman told me that they have heard nothing about either a planned August launch date or a postponement of that date, he said that, based on what their visitor was saying about development and testing still going on, he'd be surprised to see the car in dealerships before Q4 of this year or early next year. I asked this salesman if anything came up about delays due to chip shortages, and he said no.
 

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Thanks for the links to these videos, Hawk. I hadn't seen them yet.

I don't know exactly what to make of the rear seat. In the "Road Show" video, the passenger's knees were about as jacked up as they are sitting in the back of a Lucid Air with the larger battery pack. This comports with the graphic Mercedes has posted of the front and rear seating positions (see post #16 on this thread). The EQS did seem to have a lot of fore-aft legroom, but so does the Air. Although the reviewer commented on how capacious the rear seat was, I take such comments with a large grain of salt, having seen too many reviewers wax complimentary about how roomy a Tesla Model S rear seat is.

The video from "The Verge" did show that there was room to push your toes under the bottom of the front seat, something which is unfortunately (and inexplicably) lacking in the Air.

I was hoping to get a chance to drive an EQS before I had to finalize my Lucid Air order. It looked for a while as if that might become possible with Lucid's latest production delay. Now, with rumors circulating about EQS delays, it's all up in the air again.

I like the restraint of the Air's interior compared to the busier interior of the EQS. I love the Dream Edition's considerably greater power and acceleration. I knew how hard Lucid has worked to miniaturize the drive train, but I didn't fully grasp just how far they have come until I saw all the equipment crammed under the EQS bonnet.

The only thing that might have persuaded me to go with the EQS over the Air would have been if its rear quarters were on par with the stellar rear seats of the ICE S-Class -- something I was hoping the electric powertrain would make possible. Even the "Road Show" reviewer said that was not the case.

I'm still annoyed that the Air Dream Edition is going to launch without power-operated doors, that they couldn't make electrochromic glass work, that there are only three exterior color choices, that a HUD is not in the cards . . . but I still don't see a better overall EV sedan on the horizon than the Air, at least for my purposes and hot foot.
 

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The exterior of the EQS has now been revealed at www.mbusa.com.

For my money, just as with the interior, I think MB has gone a bit overboard -- too much chrome, a far more busy front end than the Lucid, a more slab-sided profile. The only thing I perhaps like better is the EQS rear end.

Where Lucid has sought understated refinement in its design choices both inside and out, Mercedes seems to be going the glitz route. I find it surprising that MB is doing this with its current crop of sedans given some of the very clean lines of its recent offerings.
 

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This is the most grounded review I've seen so far of the Mercedes EQS. The only issue I saw in it was the comparison of EQS range (478 WLTP) to Lucid range (517 EPA). The WLTP ratings are far more forgiving than the EPA ratings, and the MB is likely to come in around 400-420 miles on the EPA scale. I particularly agreed, though, with his calling the EQS design "gaudy". I think the Lucid is far more clean and subtle in the looks department.

 

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I did like how the driver (actor) just waved his hand and the door closed. I much prefer the Tesla approach of putting my foot on brake which closes the door and also "starts" the car. I wonder if the passenger can make the same gesture to close their doors. We don't need any Start button, however. I also wonder if the interior sensors are part of the 32 sensors the car has? It would be nice is Lucid initially just has self closing doors, if they can't get the exterior sensors working for self opening.
 

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I think the Mercedes designers fell asleep at the switch on this one. I found a place on the front of the car that could have taken another chrome strip and a couple of places inside the car where they could have managed another plastic faux piano lacquer panel or two. But at least they got around to quilting all the leather and didn't seem to miss a crevice into which an LED strip could be crammed.

Wow! Now that's luxury.
 

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I really dislike quilted leather or, for that matter, quilted anything.
 
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