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Let's bring this back on topic 

Exactly!Gents, why are we forced to choose between Tesla and Lucid? My wife loves her Model X because the FSD, even supervised at the current stage, takes an enormous pressure off her daily commute in Miami. Meanwhile, I love my G580 because it drives like a tank, and I am hyped about the upcoming delivery appointment for my Gravity.
There are brands for different types of people. Letās coexist. I wonāt buy another Tesla because I think they are plastic toys (unfortunately, I have owned too many of them). Still, I am not going to stop people from admiring or loving theirs. People here make fun of Tesla and its fanboys while they themselves display similar behaviors. It is not healthy.
Nobody here has said the opposite. Hell, @Steveinarizona has no Lucid at all and posts regularly. Nobody is tar and feathering him either.Gents, why are we forced to choose between Tesla and Lucid? My wife loves her Model X because the FSD, even supervised at the current stage, takes an enormous pressure off her daily commute in Miami. Meanwhile, I love my G580 because it drives like a tank, and I am hyped about the upcoming delivery appointment for my Gravity.
People are allowed to like whatever they want. The corollary to that, however, that people seem to constantly be unwilling to accept, is: people are allowed to dislike whatever they want, as well.There are brands for different types of people. Letās coexist. I wonāt buy another Tesla because I think they are plastic toys (unfortunately, I have owned too many of them). Still, I am not going to stop people from admiring or loving theirs. People here make fun of Tesla and its fanboys while they themselves display similar behaviors. It is not healthy.
Back to the topic, Kim is one of the early adopters of EVs in the US, and I respect her opinion. She has openly criticized Tesla's lack of innovation many times, and she loves to try all types of EVs. I wouldnāt put her in the Tesla cult just yet. Apparently she loves the Gravity. Good enough for me.
I do agree with you to some extent. My dream car would be a Lucid Gravity with Waymo level FSD. Be in control and have fun at times and then tune out and go FSD at others. My biggest priority now is a good ADAS for mindless long highway drives. 15 years from now as I get into my 80ās my priorities will lean towards a good FSD car so I can just get in and just say āHey Lucid, take me to the grandkids house.ā Hopefully by then we will have numerous choices from economy to luxury with Level 5 autonomy.Itās super entertaining to see how bad people fanboy in these forums no matter the brand. I bet 90% of the people here will be driving their 100-120k Gravity from point A to point B, driving kids to school, taking their family out to dinner, never taking it off road, using dream drive sometimes because itās a glorified adaptive cruise and so on. And the same people shit on people driving teslas, most of which are 40-60k model 3ās and Yās because they do the same mundane stuff, yet their Tesla does it for them with FSD? Itās truly hilarious to read. Grow up. Some people donāt like to drive, some people do. Some people donāt care about high end leather and materials, some people do. Some people like to buy things for the ājust in caseā and waste money over spending and some people are practical and buy only the size of the vehicle they truly need. Itās a car, itās not that serious.
Of course, thank you for confirming that we are also allowed to dislike this type of pointless name-calling behavior. You like your car; you enjoy it. I would never call any enthusiasts of any brands āfanboysā and dismiss their loyalty or preference to their liking; similarly, I donāt want to be called a Lucid fanboy and got dismissed as such. It is pretty easy to apply a double standard nowadays.People are allowed to like whatever they want. The corollary to that, however, that people seem to constantly be unwilling to accept, is: people are allowed to dislike whatever they want, as well.
There has been plenty of studies that FSD is not a critical feature to 90% of buyers, along with some rather damning statistics on actual usage/subscription rates for Teslas running FSD miles/total miles. I agree with the final comment, there is no reason to actually buy a car that drives itself, just get a subscription to a robotaxi service.Interesting reading the comments section of this review. All of the Tesla fanboys had only one answer, āno FSD so not interested.ā Seems that most Tesla owners are willing to accept basic stripped down interiors with minimal luxury as long as the car does all the driving for them. Tesla has been stripping out tactile controls like turn signal and shift stalks, driver displays, etc. as their future plan is that all drivers will just tell the car where to go and then have no more control of the car. You might as well sell your cars and just take Uber.
So, if you just need a car to get you from point A to point B with as minimal of involvement as possible, then get a Tesla. If however you enjoy the visceral experience of driving a performance vehicle, want more tactile luxury, then get a Lucid.
I understand and agree with some of the points you make but why does Tesla insists on marketing FSD as 'Full Self Driving' when it's not even Level 3 approved! And it can be dangerous and even deadly in some situations where the driver trust the system way more than they should. Did you know the camera Tesla uses to monitor the drive can be tapped over during FSD use and the car will continue to drive itself? Lucid has prepared for this as well with I believe two cameras monitoring the driver at all times. Those things matter!Itās super entertaining to see how bad people fanboy in these forums no matter the brand. I bet 90% of the people here will be driving their 100-120k Gravity from point A to point B, driving kids to school, taking their family out to dinner, never taking it off road, using dream drive sometimes because itās a glorified adaptive cruise and so on. And the same people shit on people driving teslas, most of which are 40-60k model 3ās and Yās because they do the same mundane stuff, yet their Tesla does it for them with FSD? Itās truly hilarious to read. Grow up. Some people donāt like to drive, some people do. Some people donāt care about high end leather and materials, some people do. Some people like to buy things for the ājust in caseā and waste money over spending and some people are practical and buy only the size of the vehicle they truly need. Itās a car, itās not that serious.
Amen.I just own/drive what I wanted, and what works for me.