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Is it theoretically possible that Lucid could adjust the Pure to have even more range with less power? A trade-off I'd be willing to make. For example, give me a max of 240 hp and more range.
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There is supposedly a small difference in the metallurgy in the motors between the Dream and GT versions that may account for the 60 hp difference between the performance editions. I do believe that if Lucid keeps telling us each motor is capable of 640 hp then this must be mostly a software change. Even my old Tesla p85d was upgraded from insane to Ludicrous mode this way with one hardware change( the main battery pack fuse)If that can’t be achieved over the air then certainly at a service center. That’s why I think the 40k upgrade from air GT to a performance version is a royal screwing. Some badging and some software adjustments. They would get a hell of a lot more takers( and profit) if they offered it at 15k. But that would probably piss off the Dream owners so they priced the change to make it more expensive than the Dream versionThat’s an interesting question. I don’t have authoritative source, but I doubt it: If it was only in software that would mean that you could have both in the same car (which is exactly what you’re getting at). Then if Lucid could offer a software switch, like, just another one of those three drive modes they already have, why wouldn’t they do it? At least as a paid option?
The only reason I can think of is that it’s not that easy. Therefore I conclude that the answer to your question is no.
The technical term is price differentiation, and it’s a way to get the most money out of each customer:That’s why I think the 40k upgrade from air GT to a performance version is a royal screwing.
Not me. There are many, many BEVs that can sacrifice performance for range. What is attractive, for me, is that Lucid has combined both. Not including Tesla, there are currently not many that do that...the MB EQS and BMW IX come to mind.Is it theoretically possible that Lucid could adjust the Pure to have even more range with less power? A trade-off I'd be willing to make. For example, give me a max of 240 hp and more range.
My point exactly. But I think lucid might have 150 customers per thousand upgrade to the performance version at 15 k but only 30 or so per thousand upgrade at 40 k. I think they would make a lot more money at a lower price pointThe technical term is price differentiation, and it’s a way to get the most money out of each customer:
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I don’t criticize Lucid for it. IMO it’s fair. Nobody „needs“ the performance version, so if someone absolutely thinks they must have it, why not take their money?
Is the hardware for DE-P, DE-R, GT-P, and GT identical? Just software tuned to have different specs?
Somewhere I read, there are weight differences between trims. If it is just software, then they should all have same weight.
According to Lucid's spec sheets, all the variants with the larger battery packs have the same curb weight. I find that a little suspicious, though, as there should be noticeable weight differences between the 19" and 21" wheel packages alone.
Exactly. On my road trip I gunned it several times in Swift mode and still ended up with 3.6 mi/kWh. I’m sure if you were driving like you were on a track it would kill the range, but there’s seems to be not much of range penalty to have some fun. I don’t even know what Sprint mode is for, Swift is plenty insane if you’re looking to amuse yourself/terrify your passengers.Not me. There are many, many BEVs that can sacrifice performance for range. What is attractive, for me, is that Lucid has combined both.
Exactly. On my road trip I gunned it several times in Swift mode and still ended up with 3.6 mi/kWh. I’m sure if you were driving like you were on a track it would kill the range, but there’s seems to be not much of range penalty to have some fun. I don’t even know what Sprint mode is for, Swift is plenty insane if you’re looking to amuse yourself/terrify your passengers.
That is exactly what the Sprint mode is for: to amuse yourself and satisfy your "need for speed" and give your passengers a thrill they have never experienced in a car before. Also for drag racing. Haha! Once the thrill has subsided you will return to enjoyable cruising, with an occasional goose at the light to beat a Tesla Plaid off the line.Exactly. On my road trip I gunned it several times in Swift mode and still ended up with 3.6 mi/kWh. I’m sure if you were driving like you were on a track it would kill the range, but there’s seems to be not much of range penalty to have some fun. I don’t even know what Sprint mode is for, Swift is plenty insane if you’re looking to amuse yourself/terrify your passengers.
. . . with an occasional goose at the light to beat a Tesla Plaid off the line.
Can't really do that if the Plaid driver is paying attention. But then, again, by staying a few ticks behind the Plaid you get to see his tail wagging as his front end comes loose.
Trust me. We have a Plaid and a Dream Edition Performance.
Sorry, but I don't trust your judgement. You obviously know little about drag racing. In drag racing it is all about the driver, not all drivers are created equal. The fastest car does NOT always win the race, it is all about anticipation and reaction. I suggest you go to a drag race or watch one on TV. I my case I would jump the light by a split second while the Tesla driver is fumbling with his airplane steering wheel and looking for guidance on his Gameboy info screen. I will be 100 yds down the road ahead of him and slowing down to avoid exceeding the speed limit.Can't really do that if the Plaid driver is paying attention. But then, again, by staying a few ticks behind the Plaid you get to see his tail wagging as his front end comes loose.
Trust me. We have a Plaid and a Dream Edition Performance.
If you are 100 yards down the road in Sprint Mode you are already exceeding the speed limit!!Sorry, but I don't trust your judgement. You obviously know little about drag racing. In drag racing it is all about the driver, not all drivers are created equal. The fastest car does NOT always win the race, it is all about anticipation and reaction. I suggest you go to a drag race or watch one on TV. I my case I would jump the light by a split second while the Tesla driver is fumbling with his airplane steering wheel and looking for guidance on his Gameboy info screen. I will be 100 yds down the road ahead of him and slowing down to avoid exceeding the speed limit.
With two drivers of equal competence, the Plaid will be quicker off the line. It’s in the numbers. I’ve watched innumerable videos of acceleration matchups between the two, many by seasoned drivers, and I’ve yet to see an Air prevail.Sorry, but I don't trust your judgement. You obviously know little about drag racing. In drag racing it is all about the driver, not all drivers are created equal. The fastest car does NOT always win the race, it is all about anticipation and reaction. I suggest you go to a drag race or watch one on TV. I my case I would jump the light by a split second while the Tesla driver is fumbling with his airplane steering wheel and looking for guidance on his Gameboy info screen. I will be 100 yds down the road ahead of him and slowing down to avoid exceeding the speed limit.