How Much Range Are You Actually Getting?

[TrekTaken]

Been busy, so forgot to post last week. Here’s my 5000 miles update: 4.77 miles/kWh.

6000 miles will probably be reached in October or early November because I’ll be in Europe. Does anyone know how much phantom/vampire drain will decrease lifetime miles/kWh over two weeks?

 

[DeaneG]

Been busy, so forgot to post last week. Here’s my 5000 miles update: 4.77 miles/kWh.

6000 miles will probably be reached in October or early November because I’ll be in Europe. Does anyone know how much phantom/vampire drain will decrease lifetime miles/kWh over two weeks?

You've gone 5000 miles and used 5000/4.77 = 1048 kWh

Phantom drain should be less than 1kWh/day * 14 days ~= 14kWh

After those 14 days your new total consumption will be about 1048 kWh + 14 kWh. Over 5000 miles, that's 5000/(1048+14) = 4.71 mi/kWh.

 

[Tesla2.0]

Does anyone know how much phantom/vampire drain will decrease lifetime miles/kWh over two weeks?

Thread 'Vampire Drain Analysis'

Vampire Drain Analysis

I see people here often complain about vampire drain for Lucid Air being unforgivable. So I did a metric and park both Lucid Air and Rivian R1S LE side by side in the same garage. Temperature factor was ruled out of equation, here are the result after I came back from my cruise trip 17 days...

lucidowners.com

Roughly 6% per week.

 

[Adnillien]

Thread 'Vampire Drain Analysis'

Vampire Drain Analysis

I see people here often complain about vampire drain for Lucid Air being unforgivable. So I did a metric and park both Lucid Air and Rivian R1S LE side by side in the same garage. Temperature factor was ruled out of equation, here are the result after I came back from my cruise trip 17 days...

lucidowners.com

Roughly 6% per week.

It is more like 0.25% per day or just less than 2% per week.

 

[njg-agt]

It is more like 0.25% per day or just less than 2% per week.

It varies... when I had wifi enabled it was closer to 0.75%/day, with wifi off it runs about 0.3%/day (+/-).

 

[nevadagame]

Been busy, so forgot to post last week. Here’s my 5000 miles update: 4.77 miles/kWh.

6000 miles will probably be reached in October or early November because I’ll be in Europe. Does anyone know how much phantom/vampire drain will decrease lifetime miles/kWh over two weeks?

For me to achieve 4.77 for 5000 miles, I’d have to be driving on Mars.

 

[TrekTaken]

You've gone 5000 miles and used 5000/4.77 = 1048 kWh

Phantom drain should be less than 1kWh/day * 14 days ~= 14kWh

After those 14 days your new total consumption will be about 1048 kWh + 14 kWh. Over 5000 miles, that's 5000/(1048+14) = 4.71 mi/kWh.

You’re awesome, thanks for the calculations!!!

 

[TrekTaken]

Thanks @Tesla2.0, @Adnillien, and @njg-agt for the info! Now, I have a range to expect, and don’t have to worry about the battery running down too fast or too low while I’m gone if I start around 75%.

I’ll try to remember to take before and after photos to gather more data for us.

 

[TrekTaken]

For me to achieve 4.77 for 5000 miles, I’d have to be driving on Mars.

I wonder what I’ll achieve on Mars? Sounds like a good scientific experiment that we should get funding for…

 

[Mike in ATL]

Just a question--If I am doing a 400 mile trip on an interstate, would my range be increased if I changed the brake regenerating settings to standard instead of high? Would I be able to coast more to increase my range? Just trying to go farther

 

[Adnillien]

Just a question--If I am doing a 400 mile trip on an interstate, would my range be increased if I changed the brake regenerating settings to standard instead of high? Would I be able to coast more to increase my range? Just trying to go farther

I think high regen is the way. Standarad regen will likely result in using the friction brakes more. On the interstate, there should be very little need for either.

 

[Mike in ATL]

So I was away for 5 days and my "vampire drain" was only 7 miles on the range estimate. That's not a big deal.
By the way- I have 4800 miles on my Touring with 20" wheels and my value for the life of the car is 3.4 mi/Kwh. I don't know how you could possibly get 4.77. I use the A/C full time here in Atlanta and drive a little too aggressively. The car is fun to drive so why not? It would be nice to have more range than I'm getting. We have a lot of hills here but I think it is a result of my driving habits and use of the A/C.

 

[Volund]

So I was away for 5 days and my "vampire drain" was only 7 miles on the range estimate. That's not a big deal.
By the way- I have 4800 miles on my Touring with 20" wheels and my value for the life of the car is 3.4 mi/Kwh. I don't know how you could possibly get 4.77. I use the A/C full time here in Atlanta and drive a little too aggressively. The car is fun to drive so why not? It would be nice to have more range than I'm getting. We have a lot of hills here but I think it is a result of my driving habits and use of the A/C.

I think a lot of us drive more aggressively as the car has more power than any of us need.

But I was curious between the battery chemistries of the car and so wanted to know if anyone is achieving close to the 500+ range on a single charge of AGT, or close to EPA for the Touring as well

 

[Worldwide Beagle]

Phantom drain should be less than 1kWh/day * 14 days ~= 14kWh

I humbly suggest we stop using the term Vampire Drain, or even phantom drain. Vampires and drains are not what I associate with for Lucid.

I propose: Angel's Share. Lovers of old whiskey know what I mean.

What is the Angel's Share? - Distillery Trail

In the simplest of terms, the Angel's Share is the amount of distilled spirits lost to evaporation from the barrel or cask into the air as the whiskey ages.

www.distillerytrail.com

https://oakandeden.com/blogs/journa...share refers to,pretty quickly over the years.

Whisky Evaporation: What is the Angel's Share? - The Glenlivet US

What does Angel's Share mean, how much whisky is lost to the angels' share, does whisky evaporate? And more. Click to learn why it happens.

www.theglenlivet.com

 

[RM-S8]

I humbly suggest we stop using the term Vampire Drain, or even phantom drain. Vampires and drains are not what I associate with for Lucid.

I propose: Angel's Share. Lovers of old whiskey know what I mean.

What is the Angel's Share? - Distillery Trail

In the simplest of terms, the Angel's Share is the amount of distilled spirits lost to evaporation from the barrel or cask into the air as the whiskey ages.

www.distillerytrail.com

https://oakandeden.com/blogs/journal/angel-s-share-whiskey-what-is-it#:~:text=The angel's share refers to,pretty quickly over the years.

Whisky Evaporation: What is the Angel's Share? - The Glenlivet US

What does Angel's Share mean, how much whisky is lost to the angels' share, does whisky evaporate? And more. Click to learn why it happens.

www.theglenlivet.com

Angels are perpetual alcoholics, now I know why they fly high.

 

[SBR]

with close to 9k miles on my AGT with 21s, I'm averaging a disappointing 2.9. thats about 300 miles to a full charge. truly disappointed. I drive it the same way i do with my plaid and i average better with my plaid.

 

[kerplunk]

I think a lot of us drive more aggressively as the car has more power than any of us need.

But I was curious between the battery chemistries of the car and so wanted to know if anyone is achieving close to the 500+ range on a single charge of AGT, or close to EPA for the Touring as well

Touring here. I do most of my driving in areas with the speed limit of 55. so even 10-15 over is basically cruising for big parts of the country.

I've got about 3k miles and the best I get is around 3.7, around 340 mi. I'm on 20inch wheels.

Can't say I ever really get my expected 380miles.

 

[Volund]

Touring here. I do most of my driving in areas with the speed limit of 55. so even 10-15 over is basically cruising for big parts of the country.

I've got about 3k miles and the best I get is around 3.7, around 340 mi. I'm on 20inch wheels.

Can't say I ever really get my expected 380miles.

I think the 380 is for 19" wheels right?
So that should be amazing range for 20"

 

[kerplunk]

I think the 380 is for 19" wheels right?
So that should be amazing range for 20"

I think its 425 for the 19s and about 375-380 for the 20s.

 

[SBD1500]

How do I calculate my estimated range for a full charge? I'm driving a Pure on 19 inch wheels and averaging 3.7. I always charge to 80%. When people ask what kind of miles I'm getting. I say well it's rated for 410 miles!