Gravity Bugs / Issues

[Ron_Burgundy]

Curb rash is not active on gravity

Did Lucid say that somewhere? Just curious because the package includes it in the configurator. So you’re saying it’s just not “on” yet?

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

I’m having the same experience on both counts but on the massage it won’t come back on after it turns off even though it says it is on.

That’s actually my exact issue. If I switch to one of the two vibrating massages and then back to deep or wave, then they’ll come back on. I expect it IS a bug then and not the timer…

 

[Clyde2575]

That’s actually my exact issue. If I switch to one of the two vibrating massages and then back to deep or wave, then they’ll come back on. I expect it IS a bug then and not the timer…

Agreed (bug, not timer) but my vibrating ones will come in and the other three won’t.

 

[hmp10]

I’m curious as to how you are driving to get such a low efficiency. According to the specs I have found the Model S and Gravity both have drag coefficients of .24. I average 313w/m on the Model S. I thought the Graity motors were supposed to be more efficient?

As @DeaneG noted, the Gravity has considerably larger frontal area than a Tesla. As for driving fast . . . who, me? I’m very careful what, when, and where I do.

On our trip today, we hit a 2.44 mi/kWh dynamic reading on a 200-mile leg through south Georgia.

 

[hmp10]

We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.

 

[johnse]

We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.

Murphy seems to have taken up residence in that Gravity.

I hope the rest of your trip is better!

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.

Ugh. Sorry to hear about all that. In my mind, the worst part (now) may be the torn ppf and dent. Did the hard reset do the trick and how far did you drive after that?

How’d your phone GPS work on the trip?

The nav with respect to charging stops and routes is really awful. It’s a shame because as you said, the actual charging is a pleasure. Waze isn’t great with charge stops either, so I don’t have much hope for CarPlay here.

Appreciate the update and hope future trips are smoother!

 

[Clyde2575]

Waze isn’t great with charge stops either, so I don’t have much hope for CarPlay here.

I use Waze for daily driving but pay for ABRP for road trips. Of course, ABRP is even better with CarPlay but it is very good without it.

 

[ClearlyLucid]

We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.

It seems like Lucid ought to offer you something for all of your wasted time and aggravation, especially since you have another Gravity on order, which you’re now likely to cancel. This has gone way beyond what’s some minor first year vehicle hiccups. If you hadn’t done the PPF and radar detector you’d likely be invoking the lemon law. I’d expect some free charging credits, complementary vehicle accessories (e.g. Lucid high capacity charging station, sunshade, cargo cover), or an additional discount on the next Gravity. No one wants to be a Beta tester on a $140K luxury vehicle, no matter how promising. When people spend this kind of money they expect excellence, and if they don’t receive it they expect to be remunerated in some form, with an apology from someone with authority.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

I use Waze for daily driving but pay for ABRP for road trips. Of course, ABRP is even better with CarPlay but it is very good without it.

Do you think ABRP is as good as Waze with route planning? I’ve found it to be poor with traffic, construction, etc.

 

[DrZorro]

We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.

What a mess! Sorry to hear about all that....However, on the bright side, I hear bad things come in 3's so you should be good to go from here!

 

[Clyde2575]

Do you think ABRP is as good as Waze with route planning? I’ve found it to be poor with traffic, construction, etc.

Fair points. I, truthfully, use them together. I use ABRP for the route planning/charging info and use Waze for the mentioned reasons.

The paid ABRP is good with the charging plan and including weather and elevation changes to give a good (and thankfully conservative) plan. I also like that I can put in my preferences like how low I am okay with going on the battery before I get to a charger or my destination (6 years of EVs and I still suffer from range anxiety (1 tesla, 1 Audi, and 2 Lucids)).

I like that ABRP will adjust if I take another route due to what Waze tells me and with the addition of Tesla chargers I will be even more inclined to avoid the construction areas or congestion.

I have a post here from a few years ago where ABRP told me I wasn’t going to make it home from Moab (to Phoenix) and with the ideas I got here and paying attention to my consumption I did amazing and beat the estimate by like 30%, if I recall correctly. I was so thankful for ABRP’s conservative estimates though because if not for that I wouldn’t have known the situation I was potentially in until it was too late (meaning I used ABRP on the laptop at the hotel and the AGT would have told me but after we were already on our way and too late to ask here and come up with potential alternatives).

Sorry I am rambling…I’m not too good at putting thoughts into words.

 

[HC_79]

The nav with respect to charging stops and routes is really awful. It’s a shame because as you said, the actual charging is a pleasure.

Weird…. I let it plan out a recent trip up to San Francisco and then from San Francisco to Joshua Tree and it planned the stops out quite well based on the settings I had set in the route planner.

 

[037]

We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.

That sux, I feel your pain. “Hoping” Lucid reaches out and offers a closer look at all your vehicle issues, there just seems to be a greater than the norm concentration of them on your plate.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

Weird…. I let it plan out a recent trip up to San Francisco and then from San Francisco to Joshua Tree and it planned the stops out quite well based on the settings I had set in the route planner.

To be fair, it seems like it’s fairly strong out west, but not as much in the Mid Atlantic and Northeast. Two weeks ago it lead me to two non-existent superchargers in NJ - I should’ve double checked Tesla. It also just doesn’t plan the most efficient routes (so far), but it isn’t ‘awful’ with route planning - especially when compared to Rivian and Tesla. It does seem to have good traffic info.

In cities, it doesn’t seem to understand one way streets well and flips out if I get close to one and starts saying I am going the wrong way…

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

Curb rash is not active on gravity

It is if my wife is driving… Sorry, couldn’t resist.

 

[jered]

1) Massage - my Gravity massage consistently stops after some time. I noticed on the Air, when I start a massage, a 20:00 countdown timer appears. So maybe Lucid just left that off the Gravity UI by accident? Will test when mine is back.

There's something weird about the massage for me too. Sometimes it'll stay on for hours, and sometimes it just... stops. And then I move and some of it works again? I'm guessing a thermal protection cutout on the massaging nub things....

2) Curb Rash - My Gravity is supposed to have the curb rash warning. It hasn’t gone off in a month of ownership. I drove the Air on the same trip I’ve driven Gravity and the curb rash warning showed up (at an appropriate time)…has anyone with a Gravity had the warning pop up? Or is everyone just staying so far from the curb it couldn’t go off???

I don't think this is enabled yet. Despite the excellent parking cameras, there is *already* a spot of curb rash on our rear passenger rim. Strangely, nobody is owning up to that...

 

[hmp10]

Ugh. Sorry to hear about all that. In my mind, the worst part (now) may be the torn ppf and dent. Did the hard reset do the trick and how far did you drive after that?

How’d your phone GPS work on the trip?

The nav with respect to charging stops and routes is really awful. It’s a shame because as you said, the actual charging is a pleasure. Waze isn’t great with charge stops either, so I don’t have much hope for CarPlay here.

Appreciate the update and hope future trips are smoother!

We drove another ~250 miles with no other drive interruptions. But all sense of confidence in the car is kinda dead.

Cell phones GPS worked fine. I’m wondering if the software reloads they did at the Service Center while fixing the navigation/GPS system has something to do with that?

The charger information in the navigation system was junk in terms of finding a charge station on the menu. However, I had my printed-out list of SC locations, and if I typed in “Tesla supercharger Valdosta” into the search menu, it brought up the right station and then activated the other related features, such as automatic battery preconditioning upon approach — something it would not do if I typed in just the street address of the SC (such as 2112 West Hill Avenue, Valdosta, GA).

As far as getting us to non-charger locations, the system was pretty much like the Air’s — hit and miss. For instance, driving into downtown Atlanta it would give voice directions such as “continue right on Interstate 75” while the overhead highway signs four lanes to our left were pointing to bear left to stay on I-75 as the road split. However, the blue route line showing on the screen was accurate. So we had to ignore voice directions and keep an eye on the route map. (I shudder to think what confusion will unfold when the HUD starts displaying turn directions. Will it key off the voice commands, the screen display, or cook up its own third brew?)

 

[Bunnylebowski]

What a mess! Sorry to hear about all that....However, on the bright side, I hear bad things come in 3's so you should be good to go from here!

Doesn’t that mean he needs to buy 2 more Gravitys to break that curse if the first 3 are bad?

To be fair, it seems like it’s fairly strong out west, but not as much in the Mid Atlantic and Northeast. Two weeks ago it lead me to two non-existent superchargers in NJ - I should’ve double checked Tesla. It also just doesn’t plan the most efficient routes (so far), but it isn’t ‘awful’ with route planning - especially when compared to Rivian and Tesla. It does seem to have good traffic info.

In cities, it doesn’t seem to understand one way streets well and flips out if I get close to one and starts saying I am going the wrong way…

This must be unique to Gravity HERE implementation or GPS issues as the Air HERE navigation, while sometimes problematic generally doesn’t have this one way street issue a few owners have reported. Assuming I have my Gravity in time for my October NYC trip I’ll probably just use Apple Maps since it syncs with my Apple Watch and manually navigate to Charger. I may try out that Gravity charging center in mid-town, isn’t that supposed to have some ripper speeds? Or else Tesla on the way back in Connecticut and just use the Tesla app.

 

[Bunnylebowski]

We drove another ~250 miles with no other drive interruptions. But all sense of confidence in the car is kinda dead.

Cell phones GPS worked fine. I’m wondering if the software reloads they did at the Service Center while fixing the navigation/GPS system has something to do with that?

The charger information in the navigation system was junk in terms of finding a charge station on the menu. However, I had my printed-out list of SC locations, and if I typed in “Tesla supercharger Valdosta” into the search menu, it brought up the right station and then activated the other related features, such as automatic battery preconditioning upon approach — something it would not do if I typed in just the street address of the SC (such as 2112 West Hill Avenue, Valdosta, GA).

As far as getting us to non-charger locations, the system was pretty much like the Air’s — hit and miss. For instance, driving into downtown Atlanta it would give voice directions such as “continue right on Interstate 75” while the overhead highway signs four lanes to our left were pointing to bear left to stay on I-75 as the road split. However, the blue route line showing on the screen was accurate. So we had to ignore voice directions and keep an eye on the route map. (I shudder to think what confusion will unfold when the HUD starts displaying turn directions. Will it key off the voice commands, the screen display, or cook up its own third brew?)

Oh hahah I turned off that annoying voice navigation lady in the Air a few days after they implemented that and never activated it again. As long as the map arrows are good that should be fine. I also wouldn’t expect any EV to identify a charger by just entering the address of that charger. If you went into your map and searched for chargers in that specific location and all your filters are off it wouldn’t show any charger locations?