Too Frustrating

[SaaSManKS]

Well, they really kinda are in the context of products as complex as cars.

Wait, wait, wait, I thought the whole GTM around this was they were LESS complex because they had 60% less parts that required less maintenance?!

 

[randallilama]

For what it's worth my Model S ran itself into the side of my garage once when using summon to park it. This was certainly largely on me for letting it do that. It had parked successfully several times and I just couldn't believe it wasn't going to recover.

 

[hmp10]

Wait, wait, wait, I thought the whole GTM around this was they were LESS complex because they had 60% less parts that required less maintenance?!

There's a lot more to a modern car than just the drivetrain.

 

[9point81]

How many years into production does it take before we stop using the "they are a new company" line?

Short of these EV makers, there's hasn't been a true new autmaker for decades. All the others out there, either been around for near a hundred years or spun off from one of them and still had the backing and resources of them. Most still consider Tesla a new company and it will likely take a few decades before these companies are not considered "new". Producing cars for less than 5 years like Lucid has done most certainly keeps it in the new category. They build 2 models. One for 3 years or so and the other for less than a year now. Gonna be a good long while before they are not "new".

 

[SaaSManKS]

There's a lot more to a modern car than just the drivetrain.

I think you mean the engine all cars have drivetrains.

 

[tomclaussen]

Has a long time Tesla owner (8 years, M3 and late MS) I can relate to SXM. For instance MY and M3 do not have XM at all. Only the X and S do, and they use the satellite ant. Also Tesla does use AT&T for cellular, at ~$10 a month for high speed. I' in the queue for a Gravity so I find these forums enlighting.