Gravity Bugs / Issues

I’m having the same experience on both counts but on the massage it won’t come back on after it turns off even though it says it is on.
That’s actually my exact issue. If I switch to one of the two vibrating massages and then back to deep or wave, then they’ll come back on. I expect it IS a bug then and not the timer…
 
That’s actually my exact issue. If I switch to one of the two vibrating massages and then back to deep or wave, then they’ll come back on. I expect it IS a bug then and not the timer…
Agreed (bug, not timer) but my vibrating ones will come in and the other three won’t.
 
I’m curious as to how you are driving to get such a low efficiency. According to the specs I have found the Model S and Gravity both have drag coefficients of .24. I average 313w/m on the Model S. I thought the Graity motors were supposed to be more efficient?

As @DeaneG noted, the Gravity has considerably larger frontal area than a Tesla. As for driving fast . . . who, me? I’m very careful what, when, and where I do.

On our trip today, we hit a 2.44 mi/kWh dynamic reading on a 200-mile leg through south Georgia.
 
We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.
 
We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.
Murphy seems to have taken up residence in that Gravity.

I hope the rest of your trip is better!
 
We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.
Ugh. Sorry to hear about all that. In my mind, the worst part (now) may be the torn ppf and dent. Did the hard reset do the trick and how far did you drive after that?

How’d your phone GPS work on the trip?

The nav with respect to charging stops and routes is really awful. It’s a shame because as you said, the actual charging is a pleasure. Waze isn’t great with charge stops either, so I don’t have much hope for CarPlay here.

Appreciate the update and hope future trips are smoother!
 
Waze isn’t great with charge stops either, so I don’t have much hope for CarPlay here.
I use Waze for daily driving but pay for ABRP for road trips. Of course, ABRP is even better with CarPlay but it is very good without it.
 
We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.
It seems like Lucid ought to offer you something for all of your wasted time and aggravation, especially since you have another Gravity on order, which you’re now likely to cancel. This has gone way beyond what’s some minor first year vehicle hiccups. If you hadn’t done the PPF and radar detector you’d likely be invoking the lemon law. I’d expect some free charging credits, complementary vehicle accessories (e.g. Lucid high capacity charging station, sunshade, cargo cover), or an additional discount on the next Gravity. No one wants to be a Beta tester on a $140K luxury vehicle, no matter how promising. When people spend this kind of money they expect excellence, and if they don’t receive it they expect to be remunerated in some form, with an apology from someone with authority.
 
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I use Waze for daily driving but pay for ABRP for road trips. Of course, ABRP is even better with CarPlay but it is very good without it.
Do you think ABRP is as good as Waze with route planning? I’ve found it to be poor with traffic, construction, etc.
 
We drove about 625 miles today on our first real road trip in the Gravity. It was not without incident.

Range and Charging:

We got 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh, which was no surprise given our briefer earlier highway stints. But using Tesla Supercharging was great: arrived to find all the stations working, no lines, flawless connections, and enough charge speed to wish we had a bit more time to finish our business (bathroom, snacks, windshield cleaning). With this car’s access to SCs and its charging speed, I am of the Kyle Conner school — just drive it any way you want, and charge when you need to.

Road Manners and Comfort:

Beyond superb.

Software:

Miserable pile of shit. Instead of putting the final destination into the nav system, I entered each charge stop as the final destination for the next leg. At the first charge stop, I programmed in the next charge stop, verified the address showing on the screen and that it matched the 204-mile distance from Googlemaps, and set off. A few miles down the road, I glanced at the route map and it showed an unknown destination over 600 miles away. Since I knew I was staying on I-75, I figured I’d try to correct it at a convenient stopping place.

I then turned on ACC to try it out, and it worked very well . . . for a few miles. Suddenly, I started getting messages that DreamDrive was not functioning and then messages that stability control was disabled and that I should drive with caution. I then got another message telling me to call service. The car began to slow, so I turned off DreamDrive. The car continued to slow and with the accelerator to the floor the car would only go 51 mph. I put on the flashers and pulled over onto the right shoulder of the interstate and called Lucid Customer Service. They told me to do a soft reset, which I did to no result. So I was put on hold while they got Engineering on the call. They said their logs showed no malfunction and that they were going to have to do a hard reset which required that we exit the car for 5 minutes. However, they said they would not do it while we were on the side of an interstate and that I had to get to a safe place or wait for a tow truck. So we limped along at 51 mph for seven miles to the next exit and did the hard reset in a McDonald’s parking lot. That got us on the road — with all confidence destroyed in the safety and reliability of putting this car on the road.

And then . . .

About 20 miles further on a semi truck in the next lane over hit a piece of wood on the road and kicked it into the side of our car. We now have torn PPF and a sizable dent in the lower part of the right rear door.

And next . . .

At our final charge stop I opened the frunk to put something in it. Fortunately I did so while standing in front of it so that I saw something fall to the ground. It was the rubber bump stop from the right front of the lid. Thank goodness I noticed it and was able to retrieve the part and press fit it back into place.

I don’t even want to look at this damned car right now. And I am seriously rethinking taking delivery of the other Gravity Dream Edition that is now in production. My head will explode with much more of this.
What a mess! Sorry to hear about all that....However, on the bright side, I hear bad things come in 3's so you should be good to go from here!
 
Do you think ABRP is as good as Waze with route planning? I’ve found it to be poor with traffic, construction, etc.
Fair points. I, truthfully, use them together. I use ABRP for the route planning/charging info and use Waze for the mentioned reasons.

The paid ABRP is good with the charging plan and including weather and elevation changes to give a good (and thankfully conservative) plan. I also like that I can put in my preferences like how low I am okay with going on the battery before I get to a charger or my destination (6 years of EVs and I still suffer from range anxiety (1 tesla, 1 Audi, and 2 Lucids)).

I like that ABRP will adjust if I take another route due to what Waze tells me and with the addition of Tesla chargers I will be even more inclined to avoid the construction areas or congestion.

I have a post here from a few years ago where ABRP told me I wasn’t going to make it home from Moab (to Phoenix) and with the ideas I got here and paying attention to my consumption I did amazing and beat the estimate by like 30%, if I recall correctly. I was so thankful for ABRP’s conservative estimates though because if not for that I wouldn’t have known the situation I was potentially in until it was too late (meaning I used ABRP on the laptop at the hotel and the AGT would have told me but after we were already on our way and too late to ask here and come up with potential alternatives).

Sorry I am rambling…I’m not too good at putting thoughts into words. 😂
 
The nav with respect to charging stops and routes is really awful. It’s a shame because as you said, the actual charging is a pleasure.
Weird…. I let it plan out a recent trip up to San Francisco and then from San Francisco to Joshua Tree and it planned the stops out quite well based on the settings I had set in the route planner.
 
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