Gravity Bugs / Issues

[GoDestruction]

Physical failure of the cable connection could take place some time after the stress on the cable has begun. Plastic connector bodies and insulation will flow with time and temperature.

This is true. Also even tiny mechanical movements (vibration) can have cumulative effect leading to failure over time. This could also explain the delayed failure of the fobs

 

[GoDestruction]

How would a faraday pouch solve an issue where the fob and car just aren’t communicating? For example, I have a brand new battery in my fob, still won’t start car. But it does lock and unlock car with the fob buttons.

Battery life may be a result or symptom, but it’s not the root issue.

Valid point. It may explain the battery issue may not the car lock/unlock issue.

 

[9point81]

Are any of the gravity owners consistently keeping or have tried keeping the key fob in a “faraday pouch”?

I have seen several members suggest it. But if anyone is using it or have tried it, can they post their experience regarding
1. Battery life of the fob and any alerts
2. Unlock performance consistency
3. Car start performance consistency

I would gladly go through the inconvenience of using the pouch every time if it were to solve it significantly improve the situation. I am wondering if the fob and car are being “too chatty” even when you are say in the house and the fob is in your key drawer but still not too far from the garage where the car is. That would explain the short battery life.

One more point - while key fob technology is old and solid, I think the proximity-based wake up feature is a relatively recent innovation for cars. Isn’t that so?

I use a Faraday box at home to store my keys in and I use the same for this car, even tho it is supposed to shut down after a while. It seems to have had no effect on preserving battery life.
As for proximity to open doors, my 2020 Taycan had it and it worked perfectly every time.

 

[GoDestruction]

I use a Faraday box at home to store my keys in and I use the same for this car, even tho it is supposed to shut down after a while. It seems to have had no effect on preserving battery life.
As for proximity to open doors, my 2020 Taycan had it and it worked perfectly every time.

There goes that theory

Perhaps it is down to the cup holder issue..

@hmp10 - I for one eagerly await the return of your car! and pray that they have replaced that cupholder part and it solves the key fob issue! (and of course your GPS issue and others too)

 

[hmp10]

@hmp10 - I for one eagerly await the return of your car! and pray that they have replaced that cupholder part and it solves the key fob issue! (and of course your GPS issue and others too)

Your mouth to God's ear . . . .

I'm just hoping we have it back with enough issues fixed to start our September 9 road trip in it. As much as I still love our Air, the combination of the Gravity's charging speed and Tesla Superchargers would made the trip so much easier.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

Have any existing owners here been notified their Gravity was part of the service notice or whatever it’s called? Feels like there are enough of us here, and not a lot of Gravity delivered, that someone would’ve been included. Wondering how Lucid identified VINs…

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

Your mouth to God's ear . . . .

I'm just hoping we have it back with enough issues fixed to start our September 9 road trip in it. As much as I still love our Air, the combination of the Gravity's charging speed and Tesla Superchargers would made the trip so much easier.

Just did first leg of a 1,000 mile road trip with kids, etc and it was SO much easier than either our R1S or X. Better driving and ride experience, more room for all and better charging experience (even at Tesla SC) - KW draw stays noticeably higher, longer in Gravity.

Of course, whoever sits in driver side second row has to deal with window being stuck open… While they’re using their ipad on the tray table and sipping from their beverage in the arm rest!

This too shall pass…as I do with my Gravity blazing down the left lane (going the speed limit always…).

 

[Batteryman]

I've have it on my '17 Tesla. Works perfectly.

Yeah, Our Model 3 just works.

 

[hmp10]

Of course, whoever sits in driver side second row has to deal with window being stuck open…

Our dog would be fighting for that seat. I have avoided discussing your window issue with anyone while she's around.

 

[Batteryman]

Seems you understand how basic a key fob is. With your expertise in radio signals, security and software maybe give Marc a call and ask if you can visit the software team for 5 mins and fix the issue for them.

Again, the key fob is an issue for SOME not ALL and clearly needs some software refinement to make it a more solid experience for those having issues. Let us know when you’ve fixed this simple problem for Lucid, I’m sure people having the issue will appreciate how quickly you fixed it for them.

But my expertise as a consumer says this is not acceptable.

Yeah, if you are a car enthusiast, you will patiently wait, but Lucid is struggling right now in the antiEV climate, they can do without self inflicted damage.

Keys were a BIG issue with the Air, and now the Gravity.

Why not just go back to a regular key with profile selection on the panel.

I still have to do the dance 50% of the time to open my trunk after grocery visit trip- almost 3 years since I bought my car. My Hyundai works perfectly! What’s up with Lucid I say…. They pride themselves on being software driven.

And I thought the new Gravity key fixes everything, was even optimistic that I might have been able to “upgrade” and wouldn’t need to do that dance every time.

They should just revert to a regular key if they don’t know how to build a software driven key. Half a decade is too long to fix this.

There is something seriously wrong with Lucid keys.

 

[NoseyReporter]

For reference, my key issue was a battery.

The battery needed is a CR2450. It's bigger than the CR2032. I had to run to the store to get one. We'll see how long a fresh one lasts. Otherwise no big "blunder" here.

 

[TahoeMichael]

... but if the firmware memory is faulty all bets are off.

Modern embedded systems with large quantities of software would typically use memory that has error correcting codes. Hopefully any automotive design would include that. It doesn't eliminate the possibility of undetected firmware corruption, but it goes a long way towards doing so. In my professional experience, we did statistical modeling and layered in enough error correction to push down the rate of undetected corruption to below whatever threshold the business decided was necessary.

 

[msaunders9430]

Are any of the gravity owners consistently keeping or have tried keeping the key fob in a “faraday pouch”?

I have seen several members suggest it. But if anyone is using it or have tried it, can they post their experience regarding
1. Battery life of the fob and any alerts
2. Unlock performance consistency
3. Car start performance consistency

I would gladly go through the inconvenience of using the pouch every time if it were to solve it significantly improve the situation. I am wondering if the fob and car are being “too chatty” even when you are say in the house and the fob is in your key drawer but still not too far from the garage where the car is. That would explain the short battery life.

One more point - while key fob technology is old and solid, I think the proximity-based wake up feature is a relatively recent innovation for cars. Isn’t that so?

May not be a correlation, but I do keep my key fob in a Faraday pouch.

"Key not detected" notice appeared once in two weeks of ownership. It's possible having key fob in left pocket (furthest from console) was a factor. Repeated same scenario of the one time the issue occurred, now with fob in right pocket. Key detected.