Gravity Bugs / Issues

[prodolf]

I'm glad what I'm doing seems to work for you (and hopefully anyone else having issues).

Also, of note, I have NOT tried using the key with the proximity unlock thing turned ON because where I work my car is very close to my desk on the other side of a the wall (and I can't see the car)...and I didn't want to have to wonder all day if the car was staying unlocked or locking /unlocking randomly. I have no idea how my key will (or won't) work should I decide to choose to turn that on at some point. That being said, I'm in the camp of people that would actually prefer to physically interact with the handle like on my previous cars to feel confident that it's locking and unlocking only when I want it to. I don't like the idea of just walking away from my car and assuming it auto-locked and everything went as planned. I've seen to too many movies where the villain sets up the overly elaborate plan to kill the good guy...then walks away and assumes everything went to plan only to get defeated in the end. I should lay off the Austin Powers movies.

Thanks for the explanation, I thought it odd that you had the proximity lock/unlock suppressed. For what it’s worth, your setup continues to work for me and I’m finally able to start enjoying the car. I’ve wanted Lucid to be successful as I cheered on both Tesla and Rivian when I bought their cars. This key thing is no teething problem but it looks like it’s got everybody’s attention now so should get resolved quickly.

 

[borski]

I'd love to see an updated fob that integrates the credit card key into the fob. That's the way my Toyota fob works. If the battery is dead, you can hold the fob up against the ignition button, and the vehicle can read it. Otherwise, when you loan the car to someone, it raises the question of whether you need to remember to also loan them the backup card, which would be annoying to have to do, and increase the chance that the backup card gets lost.

That’s true for both Air and Gravity today. You can use the dead fob just like a keycard.

 

[HC_79]

That seems ridiculous; in my 2023 X5 I replace battery every 2 years & don’t have to shake the fob. Even if I had to replace every 6mos I don’t want remove from bag or pocket. That needs to be fixed.

This isn’t a 2023 X5 it’s a 2026 Gravity in case you weren’t aware and before claiming how ridiculous it is without experiencing it for yourself maybe hold off on judgement because I for one don’t have to remove the key from my pocket to get the car to unlock.

 

[JeffSter]

Same here

Sounds like they may have a FOB shortage… or a need to revise some subset of them… best of luck to them getting them soon. I remember when Tesla was buying every button cell in the Bay Area so they could ship Models S and X. Production hell… ramping is tough… logistics of thousands of parts and dependencies is tricky… should smooth out soon…

 

[hmp10]

That’s true for both Air and Gravity today. You can use the dead fob just like a keycard.

I might have missed it on another thread, but as one of the few (or only?) people to have extensive experience with the Gravity GT and now the Gravity DE, how would you compare their dynamics?

 

[JeffSter]

Woah - that’s a big issue and doesn’t sound like software. Do you have any more information to share?

Nearly every function in these modern evs will have software controls.

 

[borski]

I might have missed it on another thread, but as one of the few (or only?) people to have extensive experience with the Gravity GT and now the Gravity DE, how would you compare their dynamics?

I’ll let you know once we’ve driven the DE a bit more (we get it back later this week), but it’s also on smaller wheels than the GT was, so that may skew things.

I strongly suspect it’ll be an animal though

 

[hmp10]

I’ll let you know once we’ve driven the DE a bit more (we get it back later this week), but it’s also on smaller wheels than the GT was, so that may skew things.

I strongly suspect it’ll be an animal though

We're not getting ours back from the PPF and the radar installers until another two weeks . . . and it's driving me nuts.

We've got the same 21/22" wheels yours has, and the second Gravity DE we have on order has the 22/23" wheels which, I think, were on your long-term loaner. So I'll be interested to see what you think of the wheel differences, too -- especially since the Pirelli tread width on the large wheels is over an inch wider at the contact patch than the Michelins on the mid-size wheels (10" vs 8.9").

(Although this thread is really not the place. Maybe we should start a thread for owners to report their driving experiences?)

 

[Pragmatic]

I for one don’t have to remove the key from my pocket to get the car to unlock.

So the fob works the same as my 2007 Chevrolet (where the fob does not sleep and the battery lasts 5 years).

 

[prodolf]

The Air key functions this way, and I believe the Gravity key does too. That really makes carrying the key card a 3rd fail safe if the key stops working.

Can confirm the keycard use will prompt the system to ask if you want to assign the keycard your profile. If you wish to keep it generic for backup or valet use then you decline.

 

[Bunnylebowski]

Right on cue, it’s like Elon heard about Gravity’s keyfob issues and said “hold my beer, let me enable Grok AI on some Teslas”, you know, the same AI that just called itself MechaHitler and made sexual innuendo about X’s CEO who just resigned. Thanks Elon for making Gravity Keyfob gate seem like small potatoes

https://insideevs.com/news/765676/tesla-grok-ai-launch-july/

 

[borski]

So the fob works the same as my 2007 Chevrolet (where the fob does not sleep and the battery lasts 5 years).

Sounds like a nice car

 

[TahoeMichael]

That’s true for both Air and Gravity today. You can use the dead fob just like a keycard.

That's good to know! From the discussion, I'd assumed that the keycard was needed as a backup in the case of a dead battery.

 

[Bobby]

Sounds like a nice car

 

[hydbob]

I'm glad what I'm doing seems to work for you (and hopefully anyone else having issues).

Also, of note, I have NOT tried using the key with the proximity unlock thing turned ON because where I work my car is very close to my desk on the other side of a the wall (and I can't see the car)...and I didn't want to have to wonder all day if the car was staying unlocked or locking /unlocking randomly. I have no idea how my key will (or won't) work should I decide to choose to turn that on at some point. That being said, I'm in the camp of people that would actually prefer to physically interact with the handle like on my previous cars to feel confident that it's locking and unlocking only when I want it to. I don't like the idea of just walking away from my car and assuming it auto-locked and everything went as planned. I've seen to too many movies where the villain sets up the overly elaborate plan to kill the good guy...then walks away and assumes everything went to plan only to get defeated in the end. I should lay off the Austin Powers movies.

The gravity fob will turn your car on from about 15-30 feet away, but it doesn't actually unlock until about 5 feet within the car. It's nice and the proximity does not work the same as the air.

 

[indigo6]

FWIW, the only cars I’ve ever had where the keyless entry (as in you don’t have to remove the key from your pocket) has worked nearly perfectly are BMWs.

Our Model 3 has been hit or miss, as has our Taycan. I did assign unlock to my phone’s shortcut button for the Tesla, so at least I don’t have to open the app. Does the Lucid app have any shortcuts on iOS?

 

[californiaboy935]

Maybe it needs tweaking a little but when you’ve experienced how quickly draining the Air fob was I don’t blame Lucid for maybe being a little over zealous with how this one behaves to preserve battery.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. I'd be gun-shy to if I were Lucid. And might not be to their ultimate benefit. That said, I don't have a Gravity, but from what I hear, they are amazing and very responsive to the key.

 

[037]

Update from Nick

 

[hmp10]

Has something changed with the mobile app in the last day or so?

Our Gravity is still in the PPF shop getting wrapped, but I have been able to check its battery SOC and cabin temp until yesterday. The Gravity is still listed in the app menu along with our Air, but now when I try to address the Gravity through the app I just get a message to "Connect Your Lucid ID to Your Vehicle" along with a link to create a driver profile . . . something that can only be done from the Clearview Cockpit. In that instruction it also again warns that "To enjoy the Lucid mobile app, your Lucid must be connected to your vehicle."

Is there any way to re-establish the connection remotely?

 

[joec]

FWIW, the only cars I’ve ever had where the keyless entry (as in you don’t have to remove the key from your pocket) has worked nearly perfectly are BMWs.

Our Model 3 has been hit or miss, as has our Taycan. I did assign unlock to my phone’s shortcut button for the Tesla, so at least I don’t have to open the app. Does the Lucid app have any shortcuts on iOS?

Yes. There is shortcut support in the iOS Lucid mobile app. Not all functions are possible, but the basics, like door locks, frunk and trunk, etc. are all there.