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I am wondering if this is the second week-long pause that the one reddit post was talking about. They did not publicly confirm it last time they paused for a week until the sales call.
 
If you look at the video from Bear's flyover, there are absolutely no cars in the area furthest from the factory, where they are usually staged to load onto the trucks. I can see why the DA's have no real guidance. I am not sure that Lucid even knows given the stagnation in Casa Grande. I am sure somebody knows what they are hoping to do, but it isn't trickling down and you can't run a business on "hopes". They do look to be filling up the areas in the middle and closest to the factory. With absolutely no cars in the area "ready to be shipped", they are looking at a lengthy gap/slowing of deliveries as it looks like there have been no recent shipments out nor will there be any in the near future. Sad.

The thing that most bothers me about all of this is the lack of any real meaningful communication or guidance. Heck, if the reason is that we are missing part X, Y or Z and expect them in by XX/XX/XX, just say so. If the reason is that something happened so bad in the production process that all of these cars require double the inspection process and to be reworked due to A, B or C, tell that too so I can reconsider what the ultimate impact on quality might be or at least include that in my personal inspections. Being hush, hush about it all is the worst thing they can do. They just leave it all to us to sleuth and speculate to our imagination's content.
 
mnewber1 said:
I am wondering if this is the second week-long pause that the one reddit post was talking about. They did not publicly confirm it last time they paused for a week until the sales call.
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My DA would not even confirm any type of "pause", in April or May.
 
I share your concerns but the assignment of a vin should probably only be read as promise/plane to assemble a particular car. I bet it has little to to with the old system of sequential vins on the assembly line. i.e. they have everything on hand to build. But if supplies shift or they don’t want to recharge the paint system to a different color, the vin is shifted back for production. So that timing can be weird without a quality concern.

If it were built and sitting. That’s a different story and unless I knew it was a missing part, I’d be worried about possible bigger repairs outside the line. You would expect at least ten percent to have some touch up with all the stages of ge the car to you. I particularly hate paying before I inspect it myself.

I also wonder about our forum’s sample size vs all Lucid production. How much do you think we represent?
 
Assignment of a VIN means the car is "in production" per multiple Lucid personnel, my DA and his boss. There is no sequential nature to the assignment of their VIN's. Per Lucid personnel, VIN's are issued at a certain point in the production process. It does not mean they have the parts sitting on the shelf. Otherwise, supply chain issues would not impact timing once you have a VIN. Lucid would not have increased and expanded the inspection process had things been copacetic. It is obvious that they either were not happy with the inspection process everyone up until now had taken delivery under or something is causing them to revise and expand the processes. They will not say, but some have heard that there were significant panel gap issues. We really don't know.

The sample size of the forum is relatively and statistically small, but the video of the staging area is not and includes all cars for potential delivery. No cars in that third area, the area we have seen them loading trucks in, is significant, especially given the communication some have gotten with respect to the inspection process being expanded, both at Casa Grande and at the Service Centers. Those cars in the middle area and the area just outside the factory are built and sitting. They do not have travel covers on them either, for the most part.

There really isn't any way to sugar coat it.
 
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cplewes said:
I share your concerns but the assignment of a vin should probably only be read as promise/plane to assemble a particular car. I bet it has little to to with the old system of sequential vins on the assembly line. i.e. they have everything on hand to build. But if supplies shift or they don’t want to recharge the paint system to a different color, the vin is shifted back for production. So that timing can be weird without a quality concern.

If it were built and sitting. That’s a different story and unless I knew it was a missing part, I’d be worried about possible bigger repairs outside the line. You would expect at least ten percent to have some touch up with all the stages of ge the car to you. I particularly hate paying before I inspect it myself.

I also wonder about our forum’s sample size vs all Lucid production. How much do you think we represent?
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5.6%
I counted 37 delivered vehicles on this forum in the first 4 months of 2022. Total sales in the 4 month period, according to Lucid, were 660.
 
I agree that Lucid’s communication practices are poor and need a shakeup at an upper management level to better deal with it. Having said that, I would much rather Lucid deal with their problems at the factory, rather than delivering and later recalling cars.

Lucid is actually delivering EVs in a time line that most other EV makers aspire to. Just ask any person who has ordered a Rivian. I’m 1 year into what was said to be a 6 month window. I will be stoked if I get it in another year, but even that seems unrealistic.
 
Drendino said:
Lucid is actually delivering EVs in a time line that most other EV makers aspire to. Just ask any person who has ordered a Rivian. I’m 1 year into what was said to be a 6 month window. I will be stoked if I get it in another year, but even that seems unrealistic.
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If you are comparing Lucid deliveries to Rivian, they are not. Rivian has 71k orders, more than double what Lucid has and they are delivering them at a rate which is nearly 3.5x what Lucid did in Q1. Rivian has many more vehicles on order So it is going to take longer to clear. However, they appear to be ramping up faster than Lucid. For lucid, I am now entering month 7 for what was to be a 2-4 month timeline, so I wouldn’t say Lucid is faster.
 
Sandvinsd said:
If you are comparing Lucid deliveries to Rivian, they are not. Rivian has 71k orders, more than double what Lucid has and they are delivering them at a rate which is nearly 3.5x what Lucid did in Q1. Rivian has many more vehicles on order So it is going to take longer to clear. However, they appear to be ramping up faster than Lucid. For lucid, I am now entering month 7 for what was to be a 2-4 month timeline, so I wouldn’t say Lucid is faster.
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I agree. These 2 companies started producing cars within weeks of each other. Rivian has been quite vocal about its production struggles and supply chain constraints yet seems to be getting better momentum than Lucid. Like I said in another post, no sooner does Lucid seem to get momentum going on the production line something causes them to stop and they hunker down and go silent. Peter may be a great engineer but at this point in time it's looking like he may not be the right person to actually run the company.
 
I was talking with the Scottsdale service team this week and was told that there is a new PDI checklist that is much more extensive and there are also several new procedures for panel alignment. I was also told that no grey cars have been delivered from Scottsdale even though they have had a couple in PDI for two weeks
 
Sandvinsd said:
If you are comparing Lucid deliveries to Rivian, they are not. Rivian has 71k orders, more than double what Lucid has and they are delivering them at a rate which is nearly 3.5x what Lucid did in Q1. Rivian has many more vehicles on order So it is going to take longer to clear. However, they appear to be ramping up faster than Lucid. For lucid, I am now entering month 7 for what was to be a 2-4 month timeline, so I wouldn’t say Lucid is faster.
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Did you order grey? You are on month 7 of a 2-4 month window. I will be at month 24+ on my 6 month Rivian window. The production comparison has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. It is the estimated delivery time frames vs actual.
 
Also, take a look at the rivian forum on fit and finish issues..yikes..
 
Drendino said:
Did you order grey? You are on month 7 of a 2-4 month window. I will be at month 24+ on my Rivian. The production compassion has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. It is the estimated delivery time frames vs actual.
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You have to take the comparison to when both companies started producing cars and Rivian is off to a better start than Lucid there is no denying that. There was always going to be a 12+ month delay on the Rivian if you weren't an early reservation holder because they had 100K+ orders on a factory that could only output 50K a year. The delay is now longer because they cut the guidance by half so only 25K are coming out this year pushing everyone else down the line. Lucid never had reservations exceed the factory capacity of 34K so they were in a much better position to ramp up production and get ahead of the curve. Yet, Rivian is currently churning our cars faster than Lucid.
 
Coltonw011 said:
Also, take a look at the rivian forum on fit and finish issues..yikes..
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Not according to Sandy. Will be interesting to see the teardown but the guy has a solid reputation and he's praising the Rivian
 
Just checking posts. We were told we would be getting our GT from someone who declined delivery. We even got the vin at that time and we’re told Purchase Agreement was coming in a few days. That was one month ago. Latest is that it is in Chicago, but they have a backlog of deliveries. Not sure if it’s that or a QC issue.
 
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Please reply with your Confirmation Date, Exterior/Interior Color, and VIN/Delivery dates if you have them to be added to the tracker.


Delays:

OptionIn Production?
Santa Cruz interior✅
Grey exterior color✅
Silver exterior colorDelayed till June/July (via two source)
20" Aero Lite WheelsDelayed till July (via one source)
Home Charging StationDelayed till Q3 (via many sources)


User tracker (by color): PERFORMANCE EDITIONS DENOTED WITH (*)


Confirmation DateColorInteriorUserVIN AssignmentDelivery Date
November 16, 2021BlackSanta Cruz@ZZ69March 25, 2022May 1, 2022
November 16, 2021BlackSanta Cruz@caboodMarch 29, 2022April 19, 2022
November 16, 2021BlackMojave@BuddhaDada13February 14, 2022March 29, 2022
November 30, 2021BlackSanta Cruz@TakeDuoMarch 31, 2022April 12, 2022
November 30, 2021BlackTahoe@masoudmMarch 9, 2022April 27, 2022
November 30, 2021BlackTahoe@bunnylebowskiMarch 11, 2022April 19, 2022
December 1, 2021BlackMojave@scottMarch 3rd, 2022April 22, 2022
December 1, 2021BlackMojave@SwittMarch 10, 2022April 1, 2022
December 1, 2021BlackSanta Cruz@MeltingJaxApril 5, 2022April 23, 2022
December 1, 2021BlackSanta Cruz@zkhan2April 11, 2022
January 5, 2022BlackTahoe@DemosenesMarch 22, 2022April 14, 2022
January 5, 2022BlackTahoe@duc900April 11, 2022April 22, 2022
January 5, 2022BlackMojave@lawtechMay 10, 2022
March 1, 2022BlackSanta Cruz@BauerApril 30, 2022
March 1, 2022BlackMojave@Brahma)#-May 2, 2022
March 9, 2022BlackMojave@ddruker
March 9, 2022BlackMojave@LuciPearl
March 15, 2022BlackMojave@Bockius
March 29, 2022BlackTahoe@Whatchagot
April 19, 2022BlackTahoe@Pwmac
May 10, 2022BlackMojave@Thinjake


Confirmation DateColorInteriorUserVIN AssignmentDelivery Date
November 2, 2021GreyMojave@beancounterApril 20, 2022
November 2, 2021GreyMojave@NeurioApril 20, 2022
November 2, 2021GreySanta Cruz@RussApril 21, 2022
November 2, 2021GreySanta Cruz@jdetarMay 11, 2022
November 2, 2021GreyTahoe@histalApril 27, 2022
November 16, 2021GreyTahoe@LCID_GT_AZApril 22, 2022
November 16, 2021GreySanta Cruz@MkatzApril 28, 2022
November 16, 2021GreyMojave@GPH2022
November 16, 2021GreyMojave@FRT-NV
November 16, 2021GreyMojave@CLTGTApril 28, 2022
November 16, 2021GreyMojave@Bruce Browne*May 11, 2022
November 30, 2021GreySanta Cruz@Gavin88May 10, 2022
November 30, 2021GreySanta Cruz@SandvinsdApril 26, 2022
November 30, 2021GreySanta Cruz@OrangeMay 5, 2022
November 30, 2021GreyTahoe@BalinMay 13, 2022
November 30, 2021GreyTahoe@King510May 10, 2022
November 30, 2021GreyMojave@Smith1959
December 1, 2021GreyMojave@JimK
December 1, 2021GreyMojave@Burydav
December 1, 2021GreyTahoe@LRSIIIMay 6, 2022
December 1, 2021GreyTahoe@oldnick25
December 1, 2021GreyTahoe@JimHoustonApril 28, 2022May 15, 2022
December 1, 2021GreySanta Cruz@PFM
December 1, 2021GreySanta Cruz@gregv
January 5, 2022GreySanta Cruz@MtnSloGuy
January 5, 2022GreySanta Cruz@cplewes
January 5, 2022GreyTahoe@DevTech
February 15, 2022GreySanta Cruz@TCGT
February 28, 2022GreyMojave@EVhou
March 1, 2022GreyTahoe@Wolfman
March 1, 2022GreyMojave@dwhumphrey
March 9, 2022GreyMojave@Boomer AZ
March 9, 2022GreyMojave@steveairgt
March 23, 2022GreyTahoe@rbbarry
March 29, 2022GreyMojave@Casadeagumar
March 29, 2022GreyMojave@crazzy
March 29, 2022GreyMojave@Minnesota Mike
March 29, 2022GreyMojave@riverstrand
April 9, 2022GreyMojave@yosh1993
April 11, 2022GreyTahoe@Navy06
April 13, 2022GreyTahoe@Knolly
April 13, 2022GreySanta Cruz@windscar911
April 21, 2022GreyTahoe@LucidRider
April 29, 2022GreySanta Cruz@Amgz
May 8, 2022GreyTahoe@martinmeyer

Confirmation DateColorInteriorUserVIN AssignmentDelivery Date
November 2, 2021RedMojave@AZAirGTFebruary 7, 2022March 8, 2022
November 2, 2021RedSanta Cruz@tomfenceMarch 22, 2022April 20, 2022
November 2, 2021RedSanta Cruz@UO2May 4, 2022
November 2, 2021RedTahoe@bitminer4lucidFebruary 18, 2022April 3, 2022
November 2, 2021RedTahoe@Neuner89February 16, 2022March 9, 2022
November 2, 2021RedTahoe@TintinFebruary 5, 2022March 2, 2022
November 16, 2021RedMojave@TRJ_Lucid45February 20, 2022April 26, 2022
November 16, 2021RedTahoe@CraigMarch 3rd, 2022May 13, 2022
November 16, 2021RedTahoe@GEWCFebruary 18, 2022March 30, 2022
November 30, 2021RedMojave@Bbq9March 9, 2022March 25, 2022
November 30, 2021RedMojave@Pete44February 22, 2022April 7, 2022
November 30, 2021RedMojave@WildRide47-April 27, 2022
November 30, 2021RedSanta Cruz@CraZ8March, 29, 2022May 6, 2022
November 30, 2021RedTahoe@changenowMarch 11, 2022March 29, 2022
December 1, 2021RedMojave@ArcherMarch 4, 2022May 4, 2022
December 1, 2021RedMojave@BJRMarch, 10, 2022April 8, 2022
December 1, 2021RedMojave@PenguinOpusFebruary 25, 2022April 21, 2022
December 1, 2021RedSanta Cruz@dawktah LucidGTApril 19, 2022
December 1, 2021RedSanta Cruz@DortreoApril 11, 2022May 4, 2022
December 1, 2021RedSanta Cruz@Easyrider949April 5, 2022April 23, 2022
December 1, 2021RedSanta Cruz@groundhogApril 11, 2022
December 1, 2021RedSanta Cruz@ac.billMarch 31, 2022April 15, 2022
December 1, 2021RedSanta Cruz@AZLucidGuyApril 6, 2022May 6, 2022
December 1, 2021RedSanta Cruz@Matt Tannenbaum
December 1, 2021RedTahoe@MaverickMarch 15, 2022April 1, 2022
December 1, 2021RedTahoe@Steve11caMarch 19, 2022March 30, 2022
December 1, 2021RedTahoe@CSAF17-April 25, 2022
January 5, 2022RedTahoe@KfedericoMay 4, 2022
January 5, 2022RedTahoe@Tesla2.0March 24, 2022April 13, 2022
January 5, 2022RedMojave@RichMaldenApril 13, 2022May 14, 2022
January 5, 2022RedSanta Cruz@HC_79-April 15, 2022
January 5, 2022RedSanta Cruz@MufastaApril 19, 2022
January 5, 2022RedSanta Cruz@pam4_AGTApril 18, 2022May 4, 2022
January 13, 2022RedTahoe@BcovillApril 21, 2022
February 20, 2022RedMojave@Drdon220April 28, 2022
March 1, 2022RedMojave@DJ@SJ
March 1, 2022RedMojave@hellolucidMay 3, 2022
March 1, 2022RedSanta Cruz@stevelitchfieldpark
March 1, 2022RedSanta Cruz@PSTomMay 16, 2022
March 1, 2022RedSanta Cruz@amoroso6May 3, 2022
March 1, 2022RedSanta Cruz@DaveyBoyGT
March 1, 2022RedTahoe@maractwin
March 9, 2022RedTahoe@NPN
March 9, 2022RedTahoe@Dawgly
March 16, 2022RedTahoe@dmm58075
March 23, 2022RedMojave@whywar
March 23, 2022RedSanta Cruz@niceguy
March 23, 2022RedTahoe@bhramabull
March 23, 2022RedTahoe@SolucidMarch 26, 2022
March 23, 2022RedTahoe@zipcube
March 29, 2022RedMojave@movieguy
March 29, 2022RedTahoe@SantaRosa
April 9, 2022RedTahoe@Drendino
April 12, 2022RedTahoe@sicsyman
April 19, 2022RedSanta Cruz@DJL
May 17, 2022RedTahoe@extesla


Confirmation DateColorInteriorUserVIN AssignmentDelivery Date
November 2, 2021SilverTahoe@bobofat
November 16, 2021SilverSanta Cruz@FirstEV
November 16, 2021SilverSanta Cruz@OldAg
March 1, 2022SilverSanta Cruz@Ozspeed
March 9, 2022SilverMojave@BradSholl
March 9, 2022SilverMojave@Moupiece
March 30, 2022SilverTahoe@Bel
May 4, 2022SilverMojave@kil0ud*

Confirmation DateColorInteriorUserVIN AssignmentDelivery Date
November 2, 2021WhiteSanta Cruz@WJAMarch 20, 2022April 23, 2022
November 2, 2021WhiteTahoe@AdnillienFebruary 7, 2022March 3rd, 2022
November 30, 2021WhiteSanta Cruz@Bill BMarch 29, 2022April 13, 2022
November 30, 2021WhiteTahoe@momoMay 13, 2022
December 1, 2021WhiteSanta Cruz@copperApril 5, 2022April 29, 2022
December 1, 2021WhiteSanta Cruz@dale246April 12, 2022April 20, 2022
December 1, 2021WhiteSanta Cruz@Silvereagle6April 5, 2022
December 1, 2021WhiteSanta Cruz@Jim2877April 11, 2022
December 1, 2021WhiteSanta Cruz@JackB-April 30, 2022
December 1, 2021WhiteTahoe@GKHoppyMarch 9, 2022
December 14, 2021WhiteMojave@milgaussMarch 10, 2022April 9, 2022
January 5, 2022WhiteMojave@jffryApril 5, 2022
January 5, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@Coltonw011April 12, 2022May 3, 2022
January 11, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@xtslaMay 4, 2022
March 1, 2022WhiteMojave@darwin67May 3, 2022
March 5, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@Mkavouras
March 23, 2022WhiteMojave@DeaneG
April 16, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@Car Guy
April 21, 2022WhiteTahoe@Carllock
May 4, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@YouAintTheHost
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Feb 1. 2022 confirmed, Grand Touring, Red, Tahoe, @psychlyst, March 3, 2022 VIN assigned, delivered April 29, 2022.
 
Yes, there were several Grey GTs that got shipped prior to the "pause" that has filled up the middle section of the lot at Casa Grande. A few actually got delivered, but many, many more are going through the "enhanced PDI" at both Casa Grande and the Service Centers. @Neurio is one of those with his car in Beverly Hills for, what seems like, weeks.
 
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