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Car and Driver rates Lucid No. 1 in “Who makes the best cars”

Car & Driver has always been very favorable to Lucid. This ranking is a bit skewed though because it is based on rankings across the entire model lineup, and the other makers obviously have a lot more models than Lucid. Not taking anything away from Lucid because they give both the Air and Gravity a 10, but any car brand with various models across the pricing structure will have a harder time getting all 10s.
 
The top rated brands pay the most to use the licensing. Lucid and Rivian are rated highest in this article. You can love your Lucid, but it is no way Lucid is 10/10 and Rivian a 9/10 manufacturer. Both of these are rated the lowest in reliability by a number of others. No question they have paid for these ratings.
 
watermelonrooste said:
It is like wine spectator magazine. You pay to play. These ratings don’t mean anything
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Receipts? Evidence? Perhaps even proof? At the risk of sounding the cynic, is there ANY chance, at all, that you will produce any of the aforementioned? Opinions are, of course, fine, as far as they go but they NEVER determined, for example, the speed of light. Science, driven by inquiry and evidence, is what is needed. Got any?
 
MDKV said:
I'm surprised Claude didn't tell you that award licensing is not the same as pay-to-play ranking. Award licensing is monetizing award badges only after a rankings are earned through a separate process. No matter who ends up on their top 10 list, they have to pay to advertise that award - that's the licensing award part.
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If the first place manufacturer does not want to pay, they will just move on to promoting the next one until they pay. There is a conflict of interest between the consulting and sales here. Lucid getting 10/10 proves it. Read the forums. If a 10/10 company has this many issues, what would a 5/10 manufacturer be?
 
kapix said:
Receipts? Evidence? Perhaps even proof? At the risk of sounding the cynic, is there ANY chance, at all, that you will produce any of the aforementioned? Opinions are, of course, fine, as far as they go but they NEVER determined, for example, the speed of light. Science, driven by inquiry and evidence, is what is needed. Got any?
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Lucid rated 10/10 is the evidence.
 
Leftlane said:
Car & Driver has always been very favorable to Lucid. This ranking is a bit skewed though because it is based on rankings across the entire model lineup, and the other makers obviously have a lot more models than Lucid. Not taking anything away from Lucid because they give both the Air and Gravity a 10, but any car brand with various models across the pricing structure will have a harder time getting all 10s.
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I use Car and Driver reviews as a point of reference (among others), because I normalize for their well demonstrated preferences and aversions. With that perspective I can report that a Car and Driver vehicle rating is by default based on testing the vehicle, not living with it. As such, for example, they don't consider reliability and maintenance in their ratings.

If true, then a 10/10 rating from them just means that they were smitten by the vehicle's performance and character during testing.

Elsewhere, they do other kinds of evaluation: instrumented tests, long term use (that specifically considers reliability, maintenance and ease of use), and subjective driving tests expressed as narrative.

In Car and Driver's usage, therefore, "the best cars" means 'that we like to drive', not 'that owners are happy with'.

On the bright side, I've noticed that they will as soon give a 10/10 rating to an econobox they like as to a hyper-luxury vehicle. Whereas this could mean that they weight heavily for fitness for purpose, I have long believed that Car and Driver simply likes certain driving characteristics enough to give them precedence wherever they're found.
 
Lol this is ridiculous. Car and Driver had a long term Air (40k miles). They liked it a lot. That's why they gave it a 10/10. They also liked the Gravity a lot, though that was just a short term hands-on test. Car and Driver is a magazine, so their journalists are paid to have opinions. That doesn't mean you have to agree with them, but that also doesn't mean that any opinions they have are paid for because you disagree with them.
 
The_Don said:
Lol this is ridiculous. Car and Driver had a long term Air (40k miles). They liked it a lot. That's why they gave it a 10/10. They also liked the Gravity a lot, though that was just a short term hands-on test. Car and Driver is a magazine, so their journalists are paid to have opinions. That doesn't mean you have to agree with them, but that also doesn't mean that any opinions they have are paid for because you disagree with them.
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You will see Lucid using this rating in their ads soon. Car and driver knows this. If they were a responsible publication, they will research and rate the vehicle appropriately or not allow the manufacturer to use this in their marketing. When you rate a company 10/10 and claim to be a responsible publication, you need to do more research in the performance, reliability and ownership experience etc. this is 100% paid.
 
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