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borski said:
It only *feels* that way until you drive it . . . .

What’s even more amazing to me is it *turns* like it’s the smaller car; due to the RWS, it’s turning radius is a foot *shorter* than the Air.

To me; the Air feels like the bigger car if I don’t look behind me.
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This, in conjunction with Kyle Conner's comment that the Gravity might actually out handle the Air and Jason Cammisa's comment that the Gravity is making sports cars obsolete, led to an interesting discussion this morning in our household.

With delivery starts now finally looming, more urgency is developing around which car(s) to get rid of when the Gravity arrives. Things had been moving toward a decision to dump the Model S Plaid, keep the Air Dream Performance, and maybe keep the Honda Odyssey (which wears all-season tires) for cold-weather road tripping without worry about charging issues, or least keeping it until we are sure Supercharger access resolves CCS charging woes.

But in this mix was my own desire to get down to two vehicles, as I'm tiring of maintaining, washing, and tire pressure checking three vehicles. Also into this mix was the question about what to do for road trips where we might encounter cooler weather and want to get off interstate routes where charging stations abound; i. e., what to do about Gravity wheel and tire choices and the unending performance vs. range quandary.

But now, with these reports on the Gravity's driving dynamics promising to keep driving fun on tap when we are in the mood, a new alternative has emerged that actually looks quite attractive -- shed the three vehicles we have and get two Gravities: a Dream Edition with the 22/23" wheels for local fun in the sun and a Grand Touring with the 20/21" wheels for road-tripping.

Also, I'm not exactly happy with the limited Dream interior and exterior color choices, and this would also enable us to get the Lunar Titanium / Ojai combo we like better.
 
There's also the hassle of trying to sell three cars privately. Carvana will only give a quote on the Honda. I emailed Lucid Sales to see if they can give an update on plans that were under consideration for a trade-in program for the Gravity.
 
borski said:
It only *feels* that way until you drive it.
The Air’s length is 195.9”. Gravity is 198.2”, for a grand difference of… 2.3”.

Width of the Air is 86.4” with mirrors; Gravity is 87.2”, so 0.8” difference. It’s a 2.5” difference without mirrors (on both).

It is 10 inches taller though. :)

What’s even more amazing to me is it *turns* like it’s the smaller car; due to the RWS, it’s turning radius is a foot *shorter* than the Air.

To me; the Air feels like the bigger car if I don’t look behind me. I love both, but the Gravity is not actually particularly big. It’s the same size as a midsize, just like the Air. It just *feels* bigger because of all the space.
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@borski PLEASE don't confuse me with facts!!!! In all seriousness, that is GREAT feedback that I will be printing out and sharing with Mrs. D!!!
 
Blue Lectroid said:
Supposedly Dave shot a feature review first thing in the morning in the studio BEFORE guests arrived.

I saw many times where there were seven people packed into the Gravity. I sat in all seating positions myself and although I am small (5’6” and 125 pounds), there was soooo much room even in the third row, that I have zero doubt that 7 adults fit in this thing comfortably!!

The ONLY thing that was less than a 10 out of 10 for me on the whole vehicle? Its size. Sure, it’s a lot smaller than an Escalade and many other seven seaters, but it ain’t at all small. This is a large vehicle even with Lucid’s remarkable packaging.

On a side note, I actually loved the way the Gravity looked with the small wheel option. I was worried about that. If anyone is on the fence about that, the chrome wrapped Gravity that was outside had the standard 20” wheels and they looked fabulous. I actually personally prefer them to the largest wheel set…
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There were 3 to 4 Gravities outside and none of them had the smallest wheel option. 2 inside plus shiny were on 22/23 and the other 3 for test drives were 21/22. I went and I checked all 6.
 
037 said:
There were 3 to 4 Gravities outside and none of them had the smallest wheel option. 2 inside plus shiny were on 22/23 and the other 3 for test drives were 21/22. I went and I checked all 6.
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So no test rides on the largest wheels, huh?

Yet all the test drives I've seen were on the largest wheels. When Kyle Conner did his test drive, he commented that he felt the mid-size wheels were the "sweet spot" for the Gravity.

Interesting.
 
hmp10 said:
So no test rides on the largest wheels, huh?

Yet all the test drives I've seen were on the largest wheels. When Kyle Conner did his test drive, he commented that he felt the mid-size wheels were the "sweet spot" for the Gravity.

Interesting.
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They kept the biggest wheels off the cobble stone, not an ideal place to test those. My wife commented my Aviator was smoother over those and I was on winter 20s.

They also were not big fans of dropping suspension below standard height.
 
This was a new post on Reddit:

Screenshot 2025-03-31 at 8.16.14 AM.webp
 
hmp10 said:
This was a new post on Reddit:

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One vehicle I was in had driver side middle row motor very loud (black on Tahoe in case someone wants to go and fix it), a black on white in show room had passenger side second row not move forward all the way (for those keeping track) but it moved quietly.

It was good to have multiple vehicles to mess with so you can figure out what’s normal and what’s out of spec (pun intended).
 
037 said:
One vehicle I was in had driver side middle row motor very loud (black on Tahoe in case someone wants to go and fix it), a black on white in show room had passenger side second row not move forward all the way (for those keeping track) but it moved quietly.

It was good to have multiple vehicles to mess with so you can figure out what’s normal and what’s out of spec (pun intended).
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Since Winterhoff described the production plan as building cars for the press in the first two weeks of April and then building test drivers for the showrooms in the last two weeks of April, I wonder if these were actually final production vehicles at this event. Maybe Lucid was still not quite there in the run-up to this event?

I know this was a tiny sample, but a misaligned interior trim panel in one car, an abnormally loud seat motor in another, and a malfunctioning seat adjustment in another does not suggest a completely nailed-down production process just yet.

Again, I won't be upset if Dream Editions are not the first Gravities delivered come the end of this month.
 
037 said:
There were 3 to 4 Gravities outside and none of them had the smallest wheel option. 2 inside plus shiny were on 22/23 and the other 3 for test drives were 21/22. I went and I checked all 6.
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I am not sure how you checked this. In looking at the static photos of the shiny one, they DO look like the larger wheels (despite what I was told by the Lucid folks), however, the test drive cars look like they were on the smaller wheels (if you look at some of the photos posted here)...
 
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Blue Lectroid said:
I am not sure how you checked this. I asked three different folks from Lucid about the shiny one and they all told me they were the smallest wheels...of course they may have been wrong!
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All three folks from Lucid were wrong.

Here is a photo of the wheel spoke on the chrome-wrapped Gravity at the NYC event:

Screenshot 2025-03-31 at 9.30.33 AM.webp


Here is a photo of the 22/23" wheel spoke from the Gravity order configurator:

Screenshot 2025-03-31 at 9.29.59 AM.webp


Here is photo of the wheel spoke of the 20/21" wheels from the Gravity order configurator -- a wheel which also has aero blades that the largest wheel doesn't. (Sorry for the dark photo. It's from those miserably murky order configurator illustrations):

Screenshot 2025-03-31 at 9.29.30 AM.webp


I continue to be disappointed in how poorly informed most Lucid sales and marketing people are about the cars they are selling. It's not like they work for a car company that sells a dozen or more models of a brand. They work for a car company that is just introducing its second model.
 
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hmp10 said:
All three folks from Lucid were wrong.

Here is a photo of the wheel spoke on the chrome-wrapped Gravity at the NYC event:

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Here is a photo of the 22/23" wheel spoke from the Gravity order configurator:

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Here is photo of the wheel spoke of the 20/21" wheels from the Gravity order configurator (a wheel which also has aero blades that the largest wheel doesn't):

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I continue to be disappointed in how poorly informed most Lucid sales and marketing people are about the cars they are selling. It's not like they work for a car company that sells a dozen or more models of a brand. They work for a car company that is just introducing its second model.
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Scroll through the photos on post #4. At least one of the Gravity's at the event was on small(er) wheels...
 
Blue Lectroid said:
Scroll through the photos on post #4. At least one of the Gravity's at the event was on small tires...
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That may be, but you said you "asked three different folks from Lucid about the shiny one". Didn't that mean the chrome-wrapped one?
 
I was there also and looking for the wheels. I mean, I didn't take out a tape measure, but it was obvious the Chrome-wrapped car and the two cars in the studio were on the largest rims, and the two demo drive cars that were there were on the mid-size wheels. I did not see the smallest wheels anywhere, not even as rims in the showroom, and I asked about that.
 
Adnillien said:
It looks to me like two of them are on the small 20"/21" wheels.
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Those two cars in Post #4 are on the 21/22" mid-size wheels. The smallest wheels are 5-spoke wheels, as are the biggest 22/23" wheels (which have a slightly different spoke design and are without the aero blades).
 
hmp10 said:
That may be, but you said you "asked three different folks from Lucid about the shiny one". Didn't that mean the chrome-wrapped one?
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100%...yeah, I did and was told they were the small wheels. Looking at the config pics AND back at event pics, it's pretty obvious that they ARE the smaller wheels. That said, in my excitement I am wondering if I screwed up and asked if they were the smaller "tires?" I really doubt I did that, but I cannot be 100% certain and I guess one could make an argument that they they ARE lower profile / smaller tires.
 
hmp10 said:
Since Winterhoff described the production plan as building cars for the press in the first two weeks of April and then building test drivers for the showrooms in the last two weeks of April, I wonder if these were actually final production vehicles at this event. Maybe Lucid was still not quite there in the run-up to this event?

I know this was a tiny sample, but a misaligned interior trim panel in one car, an abnormally loud seat motor in another, and a malfunctioning seat adjustment in another does not suggest a completely nailed-down production process just yet.

Again, I won't be upset if Dream Editions are not the first Gravities delivered come the end of this month.
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We know these were rushed

I just realized my hand, coat and slight hint of glasses were featured in the Lucid promo

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