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Agreed. Of course those same people probably think Bugatti and Panigale are types of pasta.And they really need to do a better job marketing...nearly everyone I tell about my Lucid order has never heard of Lucid.
Agreed. Of course those same people probably think Bugatti and Panigale are types of pasta.And they really need to do a better job marketing...nearly everyone I tell about my Lucid order has never heard of Lucid.
No, you aren’tNice. Am I the only one who got Goose Bumps. Yes please.
True. It's either being number 1st, or not. Very few people remember or care what's the 2nd or 3rd fastest car. For lot of folks with deep pocket, it's either be on top of the league, or no-go.
Lucid can now claim its technology enables longest range, fastest charge, and QUICKEST acceleration. This is golden for marketing.
Agreed. I was more impressed with the editing than the cars themselves..... hahaThe quality of this channel’s videos are jaw dropping…
The argument that will always come up with Lucid is the cost. Yes, it's cheaper than a Bugatti but it's production EV rival comes in at $130K vs. $250KThis video is all the evidence you need that Sapphire was a good idea for Lucid.
Otherwise, it would have been a drag race between the Bugatti and the Tesla. And that's it.
Lucid needs to be in these conversations. The brand benefits outweigh the costs of development. Not to mention, things they've learned during performance tweaking will find their way into GTs, Tourings, and even Pures eventually.
The Sapphire is almost certainly a better car (guessing @hmp10 would agree). The Rimac Nevera is nearly ten times the price but is it nearly ten times the performance and handling?The argument that will always come up with Lucid is the cost. Yes, it's cheaper than a Bugatti but it's production EV rival comes in at $130K vs. $250K
This is the part that did confuse me about the Sapphire. The pricing choice was significant enough to strip bragging rights from it and given the to the Plaid which is 100k cheaper. I don’t understand why they didn’t compromise somewhere to bring that cost down or even up the performance of the AGT to a tri motor system. Given the AGT is technically the same price as a Plaid today, adding a tri motor variant of it would have at least given some bragging rights… right? 100k for a performance jump like that just doesn’t seem… great… price wise. Again, it’s good for publicity, but not when you’re comparing vehicles to buy on paper. Sort of what makes this model Vaporware.The argument that will always come up with Lucid is the cost. Yes, it's cheaper than a Bugatti but it's production EV rival comes in at $130K vs. $250K
I agree, of those three cars, only the Plaid has/will sell in five-digit quantities. But look what the R8 did for Audi. It's not selling Sapphires that's important. It's getting the brand out there.This is the part that did confuse me about the Sapphire. The pricing choice was significant enough to strip bragging rights from it and given the to the Plaid which is 100k cheaper. I don’t understand why they didn’t compromise somewhere to bring that cost down or even up the performance of the AGT to a tri motor system. Given the AGT is technically the same price as a Plaid today, adding a tri motor variant of it would have at least given some bragging rights… right? 100k for a performance jump like that just doesn’t seem… great… price wise. Again, it’s good for publicity, but not when you’re comparing vehicles to buy on paper. Sort of what makes this model Vaporware.
This is where I rationalize the Sapphire as a PR vehicle displaying what the company is capable of. From a consumer perspective, it’s just an interesting conversation being a fairly high priced luxury sedan. Even when thinking towards how innovations and investing in the company might eventually trickle to the lower tier models. Also the main difference between said Plaid and the Sapphire.I agree, of those three cars, only the Plaid has/will sell in five-digit quantities. But look what the R8 did for Audi. It's not selling Sapphires that's important. It's getting the brand out there.
I'm willing to bet a good number of future Pure customers will have seen that Sapphire video (or one like it) as their first exposure to Lucid.
You sound like my mother in law.I agree that Lucid needs to be in these conversations. But at this point the Sapphire is not much more than Vaporware. Not so for the Plaid, Chiron, and Panigali. As an order holder waiting on a GT, I would rather have seen those development funds directed towards more service centers and getting the software out of the "beta" stage. I feel those things would keep me waiting instead of backing out.
Well, look at it as a Sizzlers steak vs Peter Lugers steak.The argument that will always come up with Lucid is the cost. Yes, it's cheaper than a Bugatti but it's production EV rival comes in at $130K vs. $250K
The Sapphire is just a fast sedan and just isn't worth $250,000, to me. If I spend that much on a car, I want it to be a Ferrari or something that looks way cooler than the Sapphire. Just my opinion, so no need for a rebuttal. Now, if Lucid makes a roadster, I might buy one assuming that it does not have the issues that my DE has had.The Sapphire is almost certainly a better car (guessing @hmp10 would agree). The Rimac Nevera is nearly ten times the price but is it nearly ten times the performance and handling?
But I'd argue the higher price for the Sapphire is actually an advantage as it makes the brand seem more exclusive. Purely a marketing exercise. The number of cars sold is irrelevant and will be, at best, immaterial to Lucid's bottom line.
True. But you married into it. I'm just engaged at this point.You sound like my mother in law.
Always negative.
Same here. Raw speed does not appeal to me personally. Especially not at that price. I think Lucid knows the audience for Sapphire is extremely limited, though. So that’s okay.The Sapphire is just a fast sedan and just isn't worth $250,000, to me. If I spend that much on a car, I want it to be a Ferrari or something that looks way cooler than the Sapphire. Just my opinion, so no need for a rebuttal. Now, if Lucid makes a roadster, I might buy one assuming that it does not have the issues that my DE has had.
Deviating from our thread, but...Lol, good reposte.True. But you married into it. I'm just engaged at this point.
Not to hammer the drum too much… but where is that sexy Tesla Roadster revision that was supposed to release years ago…Same here. Raw speed does not appeal to me personally. Especially not at that price. I think Lucid knows the audience for Sapphire is extremely limited, though. So that’s okay.
I’m certain Derek Jenkins would love to make a roadster. But that would truly be a distraction that outweighed the benefit. At least not until they get the $50k-ish car out the door.
Really?Same here. Raw speed does not appeal to me personally.