Gravity Bugs / Issues

[Clyde2575]

This is across all Gravities afaict. Mine isn’t a rattle, but a squeak… but they are aware of this and actively working on a solution.

Honestly, part of the reason it’s so grating is because the car is otherwise so damn quiet.

Mine is a metallic sounding squeak. We had our daughter sit in the second row on a drive (she is usually in the front as it is normally just she and I in the vehicle) and scootch the left side a little bit forward as some people mentioned moving one side 1/4” different than the other helped them. When she got out it no longer made noise. If I change how she adjusted it though I have to have her sit in it and adjust it again. If I adjust it without her sitting in it, it does not change this squeak. So odd but I have figured out what stops it for us until there is a fix so while super annoying, I’ve found a way to live with it.

 

[borski]

Mine is a metallic sounding squeak. We had our daughter sit in the second row on a drive (she is usually in the front as it is normally just she and I in the vehicle) and scootch the left side a little bit forward as some people mentioned moving one side 1/4” different than the other helped them. When she got out it no longer made noise. If I change how she adjusted it though I have to have her sit in it and adjust it again. If I adjust it without her sitting in it, it does not change this squeak. So odd but I have figured out what stops it for us until there is a fix so while super annoying, I’ve found a way to live with it.

Weird! And yeah ours is just… a squeak. Can’t say it’s particularly metallic sounding, but I’m certain it’s the same sound. There’s a single root cause; they’ll identify it and address it.

 

[Yowzerhead]

A major annoyance so far is the key does not work sometimes, the car won't sense the key after sitting in it.
Wondering if anyone else is having this issue and wonder if my key battery needs replacing? Happened at least 3 times in the last couple of days

One time we just sat in the car for 10 minutes and it wouldn't switch on, then we went and got the key card and it worked, strangely the key worked again for the rest of the day but stopped again today morning

Had to have my key fob replaced - after being instructed to remove and replace battery - at a Lucid Service center because of this issue… key was detected when close to vehicle but none of the physical buttons worked; It required resetting User/Owner profile etc etc

 

[Yowzerhead]

If in doubt, just put a new non-bitterant-coated CR2032 battery in the fob. It costs less than a dollar and takes less than a minute.

Amazon.com

Note that the fob may not be detected if placed in the cupholder area. I keep mine in my pocket.

Actually battery replacement will not necessarily work. I tried that and key fob was detected when close to the vehicle but none of the physical buttons on the fob worked again…ever; had to replace fob

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

Actually battery replacement will not necessarily work. I tried that and key fob was detected when close to the vehicle but none of the physical buttons on the fob worked again…ever; had to replace fob

Did they actually have a fob to give you?

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

New bug for me and would like to know if others have it…

When my iPhone is charging wirelessly and I am using Waze (I use an AirPod to listen to directions), I very quickly receive a “no GPS signal” screen warning on my phone from Waze and it shows my car driving off somewhere else and keeps trying to re-route me.

Pick up the phone and put it in my lap, warning goes away and Waze updates location correctly and works.

Put it back on pad, get the error message.

Tried 3-4 times, same issue. Haven’t tried other apps.

The center console is like a Ouija board. Maybe no one needs a new center console, just an exorcism…

Again, not at all a huge deal, but curious (to me)…

 

[Yowzerhead]

Did they actually have a fob to give you?

They did!

 

[prodolf]

I'm a first time Lucid owner (two weeks now), but I thought I had read on this forum about how Lucid offers support.

The veteran Lucid owners stepped up with responses.

I'm a first time Lucid owner as well and this forum has been a lifesaver. When first encountering the key/fob/access issues I took it right to the service center. I could tell right away they had zero answers because mine was the first Gravity they'd seen. They did address a couple of things and got me running again but my access success was still intermittent. That is until I learned the Dr. Zorro Access (aka: DZA) right here on this forum. I've had 100% success with this method since I began using it.

 

[9point81]

New bug for me and would like to know if others have it…

When my iPhone is charging wirelessly and I am using Waze (I use an AirPod to listen to directions), I very quickly receive a “no GPS signal” screen warning on my phone from Waze and it shows my car driving off somewhere else and keeps trying to re-route me.

Pick up the phone and put it in my lap, warning goes away and Waze updates location correctly and works.

Put it back on pad, get the error message.

Tried 3-4 times, same issue. Haven’t tried other apps.

The center console is like a Ouija board. Maybe no one needs a new center console, just an exorcism…

Again, not at all a huge deal, but curious (to me)…

That is really weird. Not seen anything like that nor would I be able to explain it...even a strong EM field shouldn't be able to do that to your phone, if it still has a data connection radio (cell signal) working. Are you on a beta software (IOS26)? I'd really like to see this one run to ground...

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

That is really weird. Not seen anything like that nor would I be able to explain it...even a strong EM field shouldn't be able to do that to your phone, if it still has a data connection radio (cell signal) working. Are you on a beta software (IOS26)? I'd really like to see this one run to ground...

No re: Beta. After beta messing up all sorts of stuff in the past, I stick with public releases.

I am on 18.6.2.

 

[hmp10]

New bug for me and would like to know if others have it…

When my iPhone is charging wirelessly and I am using Waze (I use an AirPod to listen to directions), I very quickly receive a “no GPS signal” screen warning on my phone from Waze and it shows my car driving off somewhere else and keeps trying to re-route me.

Pick up the phone and put it in my lap, warning goes away and Waze updates location correctly and works.

Put it back on pad, get the error message.

Tried 3-4 times, same issue. Haven’t tried other apps.

The center console is like a Ouija board. Maybe no one needs a new center console, just an exorcism…

Again, not at all a huge deal, but curious (to me)…

I don't know if this might be related, but . . .

We took a recent short road trip in our Gravity. Since our navigation and GPS system is not working in the car we tried to use the navigation system on my partner's Google phone. (Since CarPlay is not yet active in the Gravity, I didn't try to use my iPhone navigation.) Every few minutes throughout the trip the Google phone said "GPS signal lost". This was while driving up I-75 in heavily-populated areas where we have never had such alerts before in any of our cars or phones.

Fortunately we knew enough about where we were going to wing it without a reliable navigation system, but we haven't tried another road trip since until we can get the navigation system in the car functioning. It left us wondering whether there is something about the glass in the Gravity that interferes with GPS signals inside the car?

 

[hmp10]

We got the first of the work authorizations on our Gravity from the Service Center this morning. It contained this item:

"The driver's side hush panel may interfere with the brake pedal, preventing it from fully returning to the resting position. This can result in the brake system remaining partially engaged, leading to a reduction in power."

Has anyone else heard of this?

 

[GoDestruction]

I don't know if this might be related, but . . .

We took a recent short road trip in our Gravity. Since our navigation and GPS system is not working in the car we tried to use the navigation system on my partner's Google phone. (Since CarPlay is not yet active in the Gravity, I didn't try to use my iPhone navigation.) Every few minutes throughout the trip the Google phone said "GPS signal lost". This was while driving up I-75 in heavily-populated areas where we have never had such alerts before in any of our cars or phones.

Fortunately we knew enough about where we were going to wing it without a reliable navigation system, but we haven't tried another road trip since until we can get the navigation system in the car functioning. It left us wondering whether there is something about the glass in the Gravity that interferes with GPS signals inside the car?

I think it’s because you are driving too close to that Bermuda Triangle place

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

I don't know if this might be related, but . . .

We took a recent short road trip in our Gravity. Since our navigation and GPS system is not working in the car we tried to use the navigation system on my partner's Google phone. (Since CarPlay is not yet active in the Gravity, I didn't try to use my iPhone navigation.) Every few minutes throughout the trip the Google phone said "GPS signal lost". This was while driving up I-75 in heavily-populated areas where we have never had such alerts before in any of our cars or phones.

Fortunately we knew enough about where we were going to wing it without a reliable navigation system, but we haven't tried another road trip since until we can get the navigation system in the car functioning. It left us wondering whether there is something about the glass in the Gravity that interferes with GPS signals inside the car?

That does sound related as there was one time when it was in my lap and still gave me the GPS error.

It wouldn’t surprise me if there’s something interfering with the GPS chip specifically as that does use satellites, I believe. There’s so much tech in the car and window tinting, etc.

IDK, but my wife used Waze in our X for the same trip, charging wirelessly, and it was fine. And I’ve used it in my R1S. I guess it could be my phone, but I doubt it.

 

[johnse]

GPS signals are much weaker than cell signals. Your phone needs to receive signals from 4 GPS satellites to obtain a location fix. The satellites continuously broadcast extremely accurate time codes and over time send their orbital ephemerides data. As the satellites are at different distances from your phone, the signals different have different delays between the time sent and the time received. The phone's GPS hardware can capture the exact relative times the signals arrive...but does not itself need to know the current time as accurately as the satellites.

Older phones did not have the processing power to do the calculations locally and would send the received data to servers to compute the phone's location. Modern smartphones can do it all locally.

Lucid cars have a lot of shielding. The cars GPS antenna will be outside this shielding.

I can easily believe that there may be spots where a phone will not receive sufficient signals.

Also, in downtown areas with lots of high rises, the GPS signals can be reflected and cause errors due to multiple path lengths.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

GPS signals are much weaker than cell signals. Your phone needs to receive signals from 4 GPS satellites to obtain a location fix. The satellites continuously broadcast extremely accurate time codes and over time send their orbital ephemerides data. As the satellites are at different distances from your phone, the signals different have different delays between the time sent and the time received. The phone's GPS hardware can capture the exact relative times the signals arrive...but does not itself need to know the current time as accurately as the satellites.

Older phones did not have the processing power to do the calculations locally and would send the received data to servers to compute the phone's location. Modern smartphones can do it all locally.

Lucid cars have a lot of shielding. The cars GPS antenna will be outside this shielding.

I can easily believe that there may be spots where a phone will not receive sufficient signals.

Also, in downtown areas with lots of high rises, the GPS signals can be reflected and cause errors due to multiple path lengths.

This was out in wide open spaces with clear access to sky. We shall see if others notice it. I have learned never to trust car navigation with my Tesla and Rivian, so that’s the reason I use Waze and also why I’m hoping CarPlay comes soon. The biggest issue I have with in car navigation is the very poor traffic and crash and construction updates. Tesla has also taken me the longest possible route multiple times. I think my 10 year old Garmin nav is more accurate with route planning.

Of course, if the car is shielded like a spacecraft, CarPlay for navigation won’t matter…

 

[hmp10]

I think it’s because you are driving too close to that Bermuda Triangle place

Well, according to our satellite map, we've been driving in the ocean just off the west coast of Africa.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

Update on my stuck passenger side rear window. Service tech was awesome this morning. Worked on it for 1.5 hours as he knew I had to hit the road for part two of road trip.

Ultimately, after removing inside panel of door, he did a bunch of tests to confirm signals and power were being sent and then said the actuator needed to be replaced. He anticipated this so he brought one - except it was accidentally for the Air. So, he pulled the widow up manually and left it that way (per my preference) as we had to go.

So, new actuator ordered and he said it should be quick. But car will go to SC to replace as they can then work in frunk alignment and some minor items I wasn’t going to deal with except the window being stuck open necessitated service. I didn’t realize Air doesn’t have frameless windows…feels like using the same actuator would’ve been a good idea, but I like the frameless windows.

Also, and of interest to me as I hadn’t thought of knock on effects:

1) Interior Panel - he couldn’t put it back on as door needs to be open to do that. Door can’t open if window is all the way up (as we know). So panel is sitting in my garage for now.

2) Door - can’t open as window can’t go down. That’s fine for now. It doesn’t present anyway, so no one can accidentally pull it and break glass.

3) Door open/unlatched - the car thinks the door is unlatched. That’s fine as it just shows a symbol. But, as a result (I think) DreamDrive Pro won’t work. Totally fine, just forgot how annoying a three hour drive is when you actually HAVE to drive. On the other hand, realized how quickly and quietly one can get to 80+ mph and have no idea. It’s quite fun. DreamDrive Pro will likely pay for itself in speeding tickets I avoid!

Overall, solid service experience and believe this is just a random, one off issue. Look, these things do happen. And service jumped on it and came to my house quickly.

My 2016 P90D X had its rear motor fail a week after delivery. Got replaced and worked incredibly well the rest of ownership.

 

[DrZorro]

New bug for me and would like to know if others have it…

When my iPhone is charging wirelessly and I am using Waze (I use an AirPod to listen to directions), I very quickly receive a “no GPS signal” screen warning on my phone from Waze and it shows my car driving off somewhere else and keeps trying to re-route me.

Pick up the phone and put it in my lap, warning goes away and Waze updates location correctly and works.

Put it back on pad, get the error message.

Tried 3-4 times, same issue. Haven’t tried other apps.

The center console is like a Ouija board. Maybe no one needs a new center console, just an exorcism…

Again, not at all a huge deal, but curious (to me)…

I highly suspect it's due to the metallic tinting on the windows that blocks radar/TollTags/etc. I recall one of the first videos that came out before we all received our cars had one of those windshield mounted racebox thingys that times 0-60 and quarter mile...and it wasn't working inside the car and he had to mount it to the driver's side mirror outside the car. While my phone (Galaxy S23 Ultra) hasn't had any overt GPS errors (I use Waze daily), I do feel like it subjectively takes a bit longer to register a location and isn't quite as accurate as it was in my prior car...Also, my radar detector (R8) shows the GPS speed and had a few instances of displaying "--" for the speed prior to shoehorning it into the corner of the windshield near the tint cutout.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

I highly suspect it's due to the metallic tinting on the windows that blocks radar/TollTags/etc. I recall one of the first videos that came out before we all received our cars had one of those windshield mounted racebox thingys that times 0-60 and quarter mile...and it wasn't working inside the car and he had to mount it to the driver's side mirror outside the car. While my phone (Galaxy S23 Ultra) hasn't had any overt GPS errors (I use Waze daily), I do feel like it subjectively takes a bit longer to register a location and isn't quite as accurate as it was in my prior car...Also, my radar detector (R8) shows the GPS speed and had a few instances of displaying "--" for the speed prior to shoehorning it into the corner of the windshield near the tint cutout.

My toll tag DID work today but I put it right where it’s supposed to go - which is only big enough for a toll pass.

I have an RFID “tag master” for work. Can’t get it to work anywhere on windshield. Just have to wave it outside of the car…all good.

But if my iPhone GPS is a bigger issue, would need to figure another work around. I am NOT attaching my iPhone to the roof or side view mirror once CarPlay comes out just to receive a gps signal!