Lucid Earth (midsize crossover): ready by summer 2027?

[thyname]

My wife’s lease on a ‘23 Hyundai Ioniq 5 ends August 2027. Is it reasonable to eye a Lucid midsize (hopefully crossover) by summer 2027? As a Lucid Air Touring owner myself I think she would like that, especially if the price will indeed be roughly $50K as rumored.

It’s her car, but, I drive it when the family drives together, so her car is important to me too . BTW, she never drives my cars.

As weird as it sounds, I tend to plan things very early. She loves the Ioniq 5, so the obvious choice is staying with Hyundai. But I think she can do better.

 

[Amster]

My wife’s lease on a ‘23 Hyundai Ioniq 5 ends August 2027. Is it reasonable to eye a Lucid midsize (hopefully crossover) by summer 2027? As a Lucid Air Touring owner myself I think she would like that, especially if the price will indeed be roughly $50K as rumored.

It’s her car, but, I drive it when the family drives together, so her car is important to me too . BTW, she never drives my cars.

As weird as it sounds, I tend to plan things very early. She loves the Ioniq 5, so the obvious choice is staying with Hyundai. But I think she can do better.

I'd think that would be a good time estimate for availability, but with Lucid you really never know for sure.

 

[DeaneG]

Gravity production is following the Air by about 3.5 years. If the first two midsized models do the same, that would be about the end of 2028.
Take a year off that for lessons learned, and maybe the end of 2027?

 

[segbrk]

I'd think that would be a good time estimate for availability of the highest trim(s) which will not be around 50k, if the previous lineups are anything to go by. Judging by Air, the Pure equivalents may be in 2028.

 

[Leftlane]

Will be interesting once the Rivian R2 comes out and I guess we’ll see how many people were really waiting on a midsize EV SUV that isn’t a Tesla. My wife out of the blue asked me about it the other day.

 

[DeaneG]

Will be interesting once the Rivian R2 comes out and I guess we’ll see how many people were really waiting on a midsize EV SUV that isn’t a Tesla. My wife out of the blue asked me about it the other day.

There are already at least eight midsized SUV EVs available:
Toyota BZ4X
Chevy Blazer / Honda Prologue / Acura ZDX
Mercedes EQB
Volkswagon ID.4
Audi Q4 e-tron / Q4 e-tron Sportback

Coming in the first half of 2026:
BMW iX3
Jeep Recon
Rivian R2

 

[TahoeMichael]

My wife’s lease on a ‘23 Hyundai Ioniq 5 ends August 2027. Is it reasonable to eye a Lucid midsize (hopefully crossover) by summer 2027? As a Lucid Air Touring owner myself I think she would like that, especially if the price will indeed be roughly $50K as rumored.

It’s her car, but, I drive it when the family drives together, so her car is important to me too . BTW, she never drives my cars.

As weird as it sounds, I tend to plan things very early. She loves the Ioniq 5, so the obvious choice is staying with Hyundai. But I think she can do better.

I think that the CEO of Lucid was just interviewed, and said that the midsize will launch at the end of 2026, and actually ship to customers in 2027. But as a another commenter noted, if they keep to that timeline, you might find that mid-year '27 has only more expensive models available.

 

[Batteryman]

Well, they better get a move on and make sure they don’t mess up with the midsize release- stay on target and make sure they have all their ducks in a line. They messed up Air release big time, and Gravity delayed 6 months, and still don’t have the Gravity supply chain in order. Lucid executives are acting like they have all their time in the world……so, expect reasonably priced midsize end of 2028…at least…….

 

[borski]

Well, they better get a move on and make sure they don’t mess up with the midsize release- stay on target and make sure they have all their ducks in a line. They messed up Air release big time, and Gravity delayed 6 months, and still don’t have the Gravity supply chain in order. Lucid executives are acting like they have all their time in the world……so, expect reasonably priced midsize end of 2028…at least…….

You’re just a regular pile of positivity recently, huh?

 

[hydbob]

Well, they better get a move on and make sure they don’t mess up with the midsize release- stay on target and make sure they have all their ducks in a line. They messed up Air release big time, and Gravity delayed 6 months, and still don’t have the Gravity supply chain in order. Lucid executives are acting like they have all their time in the world……so, expect reasonably priced midsize end of 2028…at least…….

Well Air was delayed by a year. Gravity by 6 months. So midsize 1 should be 3 months then midsize 2 1.5 months. All good!

 

[HC_79]

August 2027, it should be available but yeah, it’s going to be an interesting launch to watch. Everyone is expecting a $50K car but Lucid has shown it does the top trim first so it could be $70K+. They also drag their feet getting to the lowest trim so it could be 2028 or beyond for the $50K version.

Hopefully it changes with Earth but they really need to pump multiple models down the line at launch. Fingers crossed.

 

[Batteryman]

You’re just a regular pile of positivity recently, huh?

Or reality? Midsize may have more ramp up issues , considering the higher volumes that are expected and the history of Lucid delays.

If we say everything is rosy, when it’s not, leads to more complacency.

Better to have poor expectations and be surprised.

 

[Batteryman]

August 2027, it should be available but yeah, it’s going to be an interesting launch to watch. Everyone is expecting a $50K car but Lucid has shown it does the top trim first so it could be $70K+. They also drag their feet getting to the lowest trim so it could be 2028 or beyond for the $50K version.

Hopefully it changes with Earth but they really need to pump multiple models down the line at launch. Fingers crossed.

I’m waiting for the mid-trim Lucid Earth. Probably need to drag our model 3 out a few more years.

 

[borski]

Or reality? Midsize may have more ramp up issues , considering the higher volumes that are expected and the history of Lucid delays.

Reality is the present. You’re attempting to predict the far future, and operating with extremely imperfect information.

That’s not reality; it’s guessing. You would be equally likely to be correct by playing Roulette. It is simply much too far out to make any reasonable guesses, and past performance is not a good indicator of something that far out.

So no, you’re not being realistic. You’re being cynical.

Reality is we have no idea.

If we say everything is rosy, when it’s not, leads to more complacency.

I never said that. But optimism is at least as accurate as cynicism.

And the reality is both are probably wrong.

Better to have poor expectations and be surprised.

Is it? You can certainly go through life being as cynical as possible, constantly being surprised when things go well… but consider, perhaps, that cynicism is a false comfort.

Cynicism can feel nice because it makes you think you know something others don’t, and the regular comfort is “but then I won’t be let down.”

That’s true, of course — but the corollary is that you will also never actually look forward to anything. Instead, you will swing back and forth between the extremes of being curmudgeonly and being “surprised it went right,” and when your cynicism is correct on occasion, you’ll get to cynically say “I was right all along,” without acknowledging all the times your cynicism led you to being unhappy while everyone else was excited for what’s to come.

That’s your choice, of course; but consider that being the cynic doesn’t win you friends or make you popular.

You do you. I’ll choose optimism over cynicism, since both are equally accurate given imperfect information.

 

[LucidfanAZ]

I would like to think that Lucid’s recent acquisition of Nikola Coolidge factory for $17m (cost $100s M to build) will only help accelerate the development of their midsize platform. Without that occurring, I’d be less optimistic but now I think they can pull off a late ‘26 roll out. I could very easily be wrong, but as an investor I hope I’m right.

 

[Daniel2022AT]

There are already at least eight midsized SUV EVs available:
Toyota BZ4X
Chevy Blazer / Honda Prologue / Acura ZDX
Mercedes EQB
Volkswagon ID.4
Audi Q4 e-tron / Q4 e-tron Sportback

Coming in the first half of 2026:
BMW iX3
Jeep Recon
Rivian R2

Do any of those competitive products come anywhere close to the 5 mi/kwh efficiency of the Lucid Earth? The clear answer is no. My Audi Q4 etron Sportback is a nice little errand vehicle but I can get only 3 mi/kwh if I’m very careful. Lucid appears to be in a different league from legacy competitors when it comes to efficiency and vehicle design. VW/Audi makes their EV’s slower and noisier to behave more like their ICE vehicles. So perverse.

 

[DeaneG]

Do any of those competitive products come anywhere close to the 5 mi/kwh efficiency of the Lucid Earth? The clear answer is no...

I forgot to include the Macan EV in that list, a nice drive but also not of great efficiency.

We can't compare efficiency specs of existing older vehicles against a future competitor that is still in the design phase, and likely 2-3 years from production.
In particular, I wouldn't count out BMW's iX3 or the vehicle that comes after that.
I'm very interested in Lucid's midsize products, and whatever else is available at the time.

 

[thyname]

Do any of those competitive products come anywhere close to the 5 mi/kwh efficiency of the Lucid Earth?

May I ask: how do you know about 5 miles per kWh efficiency on Lucid Earth?
That would be amazing! With a 75 kWh battery pack (like Tesla Y Long Range AWD), it would have a 375 mile range. Anything 80+ kWh battery pack, would bring the range to 400+ miles range!

 

[segbrk]

May I ask: how do you know about 5 miles per kWh efficiency on Lucid Earth?
That would be amazing! With a 75 kWh battery pack (like Tesla Y Long Range AWD), it would have a 375 mile range. Anything 80+ kWh battery pack, would bring the range to 400+ miles range!

They don't. The car doesn't exist yet, so it doesn't have an efficiency rating. However, Air Pure has been EPA rated at 5.0 mi/kWh and a lighter weight midsize sedan in particular should perform better. Lucid has stated that a goal for the Midsize project is to reach 6.0 mi/kWh. But do keep in mind that the Midsize project includes three vehicles, not just one - the crossover may not be the one to hit that mark, if any. (Also none of them are named Earth so far as we know, that is also wild speculation.)

 

[tonybot]

I forgot to include the Macan EV in that list, a nice drive but also not of great efficiency.

We can't compare efficiency specs of existing older vehicles against a future competitor that is still in the design phase, and likely 2-3 years from production.
In particular, I wouldn't count out BMW's iX3 or the vehicle that comes after that.
I'm very interested in Lucid's midsize products, and whatever else is available at the time.

I agree with this view. As a current iX owner, BMW tends to understate its EPA and get more miles in real life. They also introduced an efficiency mode that goes further and a max efficiency mode to reach maximum range. That can’t be defaulted in the US because it was unavailable during the EPA testing. My iX gets 3.5 easily, and many are getting above 4 on the highway, which is excellent for a heavy SUV. Competition is heating up, and their upcoming releases will be competitive regarding rage and efficiency. All great news for us customers!