Lane Centering ADJUSTMENTS in highway assist/Dream Drive

[DeaneG]

Mine tends to want to be about a foot to the right from centered, but it's not particularly repeatable.

 

[MorganB]

Has everyone noticed the steering wheel icon when Highway Assist is active? If the steering wheel icon is dim then the car is not steering. Once its is illuminated the car is controlling the steering. It usually takes a few seconds for it to come on after HA is engaged and it will also turn off if you temporarily take control and takes a few seconds to come back on. I only noticed it recently.

 

[Dog poop]

Has everyone noticed the steering wheel icon when Highway Assist is active? If the steering wheel icon is dim then the car is not steering. Once its is illuminated the car is controlling the steering. It usually takes a few seconds for it to come on after HA is engaged and it will also turn off if you temporarily take control and takes a few seconds to come back on. I only noticed it recently.

Also the lane lights up in the display when HA is actively keeping the Air centered in the lane. If it’s not lit up, then the lane centering feature is not active.

 

[FastEddi3]

I thought of that as well, but it would actually work as it should at times. I would think the cameras either are calibrated and work or they aren't and don't, not try to run me into the left wall one minute and 30 minutes later work splendidly without stopping/resetting in between.

I had a similar issue a few months ago. Turned out to be simple: My alignment was off after hitting a pothole. Ended up replacing a tire due to a bubble as well, then they redid the alignment, and it has worked great since then. FWIW, the tech from Lucid said that the HA was sometimes able to compensate for the misalignment, so it would occasionally work, but that it was mostly too much veer for the HA to handle. I had reported it to Lucid directly, and based on my description, they initially thought it might be sensor error, since it was intermittent, but when they had me bring it to the service center, they figured out the alignment was the culprit.

 

[CLTGT]

I used it for quite some time Saturday evening driving back to Charlotte from Atlanta, performed well and without the initial veer. Not sure what might have happened. I will keep playing with it.

 

[Bus Driver]

I played around with HA on my roundtrip drive up to Chapel Hill to pick my son up from UNC. On both legs, HA started out as "merge left". I would turn it on and the car would just drift to the left, over the line and had to have some intervention before I hit the wall or ran off the road. Later on in the drive, I tried it again and it appeared to do what it was designed to do. It just isn't consistent enough to be trusted and is downright dangerous. Not surprisingly, HA acts much like the entertainment system, sometimes it works, sometimes not so much.

No more HA for me.

My Air GT has been at our local service centre, 100 miles away, since last Monday, May 15th. I complained about the car immediately veering, not drifting, but veering aggressively to the left. It would do this ONLY upon initial engagement. Given about 30 seconds, the car would then start drifting back to the right, over the lane divider dots, and eventually centre up in my original lane.

This problem has the service centre stumped, apparently. I watched them take a few hours to calibrate the cameras and sensors; they were all spot on. No problems there. Through my app, I watched them take it out on test drive after test drive, only to return and subsequently report to me that they could repeat the phenomenon I was describing, but couldn’t determine the cause, or a way to eliminate it.

The silver lining in all this is that I was given a very rare indeed, Lucid Air GT, as a loaner. It was explained to me that normally our local service centre only provided uber rides, and only occasionally provided loaners. Even at that, the loaners were rented from Enterprise Rent A Car, and they would never be a Lucid. More likely a Polestar, Tesla M3, Ioniq, or something along those lines. So last Monday, when I agreed to have the service centre keep my vehicle as long as they needed, I was handed the keys to brand new Lucid Air GT, that was intended to be used as a demonstration vehicle on test drives. I left the service centre last Monday with 138 miles on the odometer. Eight days later the odometer now reads 1100 miles. I do A LOT of drving.

It’s the start of a new week. I put in a text message this morning to my service advisor, asking for a status update on their troubleshooting efforts. No response yet. The car hasn’t moved either. I still have their loaner, putting ever many more miles on it. I’m sure the service centre would rather I didn’t do that. I hope they can find some resolution to my left-veering HA problem very soon.

 

[CLTGT]

My Air GT has been at our local service centre, 100 miles away, since last Monday, May 15th. I complained about the car immediately veering, not drifting, but veering aggressively to the left. It would do this ONLY upon initial engagement. Given about 30 seconds, the car would then start drifting back to the right, over the lane divider dots, and eventually centre up in my original lane.

This problem has the service centre stumped, apparently. I watched them take a few hours to calibrate the cameras and sensors; they were all spot on. No problems there. Through my app, I watched them take it out on test drive after test drive, only to return and subsequently report to me that they could repeat the phenomenon I was describing, but couldn’t determine the cause, or a way to eliminate it.

The silver lining in all this is that I was given a very rare indeed, Lucid Air GT, as a loaner. It was explained to me that normally our local service centre only provided uber rides, and only occasionally provided loaners. Even at that, the loaners were rented from Enterprise Rent A Car, and they would never be a Lucid. More likely a Polestar, Tesla M3, Ioniq, or something along those lines. So last Monday, when I agreed to have the service centre keep my vehicle as long as they needed, I was handed the keys to brand new Lucid Air GT, that was intended to be used as a demonstration vehicle on test drives. I left the service centre last Monday with 138 miles on the odometer. Eight days later the odometer now reads 1100 miles. I do A LOT of drving.

It’s the start of a new week. I put in a text message this morning to my service advisor, asking for a status update on their troubleshooting efforts. No response yet. The car hasn’t moved either. I still have their loaner, putting ever many more miles on it. I’m sure the service centre would rather I didn’t do that. I hope they can find some resolution to my left-veering HA problem very soon.

Well, feel free to mention me to them. They know who I am on here if they dig a bit. I will not give them my car to keep for this though as I will not get a loaner of like comparison. Living in Charlotte and not near a Service Center, I doubt they will make any effort to see if my issue is the same as yours. It would require them to ship the car to the nearest Service Center and I would rather live with what I have right now with respect to HA than drive some loaner I have to source on my own. They definitely treat some of those that happen to live near a Service Center differently than those that do not. I still can't get them to call me back and it has been a week since I first contacted Customer Care.

 

[Adnillien]

I had a similar issue a few months ago. Turned out to be simple: My alignment was off after hitting a pothole. Ended up replacing a tire due to a bubble as well, then they redid the alignment, and it has worked great since then. FWIW, the tech from Lucid said that the HA was sometimes able to compensate for the misalignment, so it would occasionally work, but that it was mostly too much veer for the HA to handle. I had reported it to Lucid directly, and based on my description, they initially thought it might be sensor error, since it was intermittent, but when they had me bring it to the service center, they figured out the alignment was the culprit.

When HA first came out and I would turn on HA, my car would veer left. It was fixed by an alignment. Now it works normally with what seems like a right bias.

 

[Leighb]

I played around with HA on my roundtrip drive up to Chapel Hill to pick my son up from UNC. On both legs, HA started out as "merge left". I would turn it on and the car would just drift to the left, over the line and had to have some intervention before I hit the wall or ran off the road. Later on in the drive, I tried it again and it appeared to do what it was designed to do. It just isn't consistent enough to be trusted and is downright dangerous. Not surprisingly, HA acts much like the entertainment system, sometimes it works, sometimes not so much.

No more HA for me.

I am amazed that they still have not fixed this problem. the HA goes off without any warning or any lane departure warning. The only indication is that the little steering wheel light goes off but the HA light stays on. Incredibly dangerous and a huge liability. They should make fixing this a top priority. At the very least it should flash red, dim the Highway Assist light and/or do the vibration that it does ordinarily when you are departing a lane.

 

[MorganB]

I am amazed that they still have not fixed this problem. the HA goes off without any warning or any lane departure warning. The only indication is that the little steering wheel light goes off but the HA light stays on. Incredibly dangerous and a huge liability. They should make fixing this a top priority. At the very least it should flash red, dim the Highway Assist light and/or do the vibration that it does ordinarily when you are departing a lane.

To me the HA works as designed. When it is enabled it indicates that it is steering. When you take over steering you have to wait for it to re-engage before expecting the vehicle to steer. When HA turns itself off the warnings are multiple prior to disengagement, large and red.

 

[Empty Nest]

I am amazed that they still have not fixed this problem. the HA goes off without any warning or any lane departure warning. The only indication is that the little steering wheel light goes off but the HA light stays on. Incredibly dangerous and a huge liability. They should make fixing this a top priority. At the very least it should flash red, dim the Highway Assist light and/or do the vibration that it does ordinarily when you are departing a lane.

I haven't used HA much do my perceived lane centering right bias, but from what I have seen does it not say "take control now" when it turns off, or is that just me not paying attention to the "put your hands on the wheel" warnings that may have preceded the "take control now" stern warning.

 

[jfbjrsocal]

The latest update (2.1.3) has a bullet which states that Manual Lane Biasing temporarily allows a driver to manually adjust the vehicle's position within a lane while Highway Assist is still engaged and actively controlling the vehicle. I have tried this a few times on SoCal freeways, meeting all the criteria listed above, but I do not see any change in the vehicle's positioning. I wait a moment when HA first engages then gently nudge the steering wheel to the left. I do not see/feel/believe that any adjustment has been made. Can somebody explain what "temporarily" means in this situation? Is there any guidance - for example, do it immediately after engaging HA, wait 2 seconds...?? Thanks.

 

[Adnillien]

The car only moves over during the time that you apply pressure to the steering wheel. As soon as you let go, the car will move back to the center of the lane. Before the HA would fight you and stay centered, now it does not fight you and allows the car to move over slightly one direction or the other.

 

[jfbjrsocal]

Thanks, I will give that a try.

 

[Tesla2Lucid]

The latest update (2.1.3) has a bullet which states that Manual Lane Biasing temporarily allows a driver to manually adjust the vehicle's position within a lane while Highway Assist is still engaged and actively controlling the vehicle. I have tried this a few times on SoCal freeways, meeting all the criteria listed above, but I do not see any change in the vehicle's positioning. I wait a moment when HA first engages then gently nudge the steering wheel to the left. I do not see/feel/believe that any adjustment has been made. Can somebody explain what "temporarily" means in this situation? Is there any guidance - for example, do it immediately after engaging HA, wait 2 seconds...?? Thanks.

@Adnillien described above perfectly. I will, however, put my vote in for misnamed function! I think it’s a baby step towards the goal of the naming but the expectations are way greater! Kind of like calling something FSD, full self drive, but, well, not!

 

[sansonoma]

I have to say this feature (Manual Lane Biasing) is a HUGE problem. I simmply cannot keep my hand on the wheel now without HA biasing so much that it bounces between lines nad even crosses lines without nary a whine or signal. If I place my hands very lightly, I get a warning every 15 seconds even with my hand on the wheel and it still sometime "biases" all over the road. My car is no longer able to be guided through steep turns with HA on without it "biasing" excessively and dangerously.

I LOVED HA before 2.1.3. Just rest my hand on the wheel and relax. Now, the is no HA.

How can we turn off manual lane biasing?

 

[borski]

I have to say this feature (Manual Lane Biasing) is a HUGE problem. I simmply cannot keep my hand on the wheel now without HA biasing so much that it bounces between lines nad even crosses lines without nary a whine or signal. If I place my hands very lightly, I get a warning every 15 seconds even with my hand on the wheel and it still sometime "biases" all over the road. My car is no longer able to be guided through steep turns with HA on without it "biasing" excessively and dangerously.

I LOVED HA before 2.1.3. Just rest my hand on the wheel and relax. Now, the is no HA.

How can we turn off manual lane biasing?

Can you record a video?

 

[Babyrocko1908]

The car only moves over during the time that you apply pressure to the steering wheel. As soon as you let go, the car will move back to the center of the lane. Before the HA would fight you and stay centered, now it does not fight you and allows the car to move over slightly one direction or the other.

I tried it last night for about 25 miles total. It worked exactly how you've described here.

 

[RichMalden]

I have to say this feature (Manual Lane Biasing) is a HUGE problem. I simmply cannot keep my hand on the wheel now without HA biasing so much that it bounces between lines nad even crosses lines without nary a whine or signal. If I place my hands very lightly, I get a warning every 15 seconds even with my hand on the wheel and it still sometime "biases" all over the road. My car is no longer able to be guided through steep turns with HA on without it "biasing" excessively and dangerously.

I LOVED HA before 2.1.3. Just rest my hand on the wheel and relax. Now, the is no HA.

How can we turn off manual lane biasing?

This is interesting because I always hang my hand by a finger and the weight of that counts as holding the wheel sensor wise but it sounds like this will now cause me to utilize the bias.

There was always enough counter tension from HA to support the weight of my hand hanging. I have a road trip coming up in a week and a half so I'll find out then but it sounds like I won't be using HA unless I can find an alternate relaxed comfortable way to satisfy the hold the wheel requirement.

 

[joec]

This is interesting because I always hang my hand by a finger and the weight of that counts as holding the wheel sensor wise but it sounds like this will now cause me to utilize the bias.

There was always enough counter tension from HA to support the weight of my hand hanging. I have a road trip coming up in a week and a half so I'll find out then but it sounds like I won't be using HA unless I can find an alternate relaxed comfortable way to satisfy the hold the wheel requirement.

When I was on a longer trip a few weeks back, I got tired of applying that constant pressure and instead changed over to just "wiggling" a little every ten seconds or so. Which is annoying in other ways, but at least it's another way to get the car to understand you are still there and paying attention. I do wish the wheel could sense the presence of your hands without that counterweight, but that ship has sailed. Perhaps in a future iteration of the Air…