Road Trip: The Good, the Bad, and the . . . ugh

So I take back what I said above.
Have attempted 3 times now to charge at our local EA.

I am now one of the masses, plug and play failed and I had to initiate from the app. On doing so, I received 150 kw to begin which slowly went down to 10kw over time.
"power limited by station"
Horrible
 
So I take back what I said above.
Have attempted 3 times now to charge at our local EA.

I am now one of the masses, plug and play failed and I had to initiate from the app. On doing so, I received 150 kw to begin which slowly went down to 10kw over time.
"power limited by station"
Horrible

That's part of the problem with Electrify America. The charging issues often appear and disappear randomly, sometimes inside of a single visit.

One example was our last stopover in Bushnell, FL. A Mustang Mach-E was the only car plugged in when we pulled up. As we were preparing to plug in, the two guys came over to our car to say they had tried all the plugs and were now charging at the only one that worked. They said they were about to finish, and we could take their space. Since I was already out of the car, I decided to plug in where we were to see what happened. Our charging session went fine.

In Pooler, GA we got a different error message at each plug as we moved around trying to find one that would resume charging. (Our initial plug had added 11% range before the session suddenly stopped and would not restart.)

Even when we were able to charge properly, at every stop there was at least one other car that was experiencing problems.

Pulling into an EA station for a charge is a total crap shoot. You certainly cannot plan a trip with any confidence given such a situation.

Sometimes you might have the alternative of another charge provider, such as EVgo, Blink, or ChargePoint. But that means you'll be paying a stiff price to charge and losing the benefit of the Lucid charging plan that was included in the price of your car. It also means you'll spend additional time if you have to seek another provider -- assuming one is available -- after finding the EA station is a shit show. (As Kyle Conner has noted, those other providers are often concentrated near urban centers and don't have the coverage over long open routes that EA supposedly provides.)

It also means that you cannot safely drive the remaining range down to the point that you don't have enough range to reach an alternate charge provider, thus losing some of the advantage of Lucid's longer range. There were two legs on our trip where the car's range would have let us skip an EA charger and continue to the next one. However, since we had become so worried about an EA station not working, we stopped at interim stations where the car's range would not have otherwise required it. This meant we had to make as many charging stops in our Lucid as we would have had to make in our Model S had we taken it on the trip with its 100-mile shorter range, thus wiping out Lucid's range advantage over the Tesla (whose charging stations are famously reliable).

As the EA problems seem to be worsening, long road trips in our Lucid are becoming less feasible.
 
I guess I’m glad I’ve never had an issue with EA 🤷‍♂️
 
I guess I’m glad I’ve never had an issue with EA 🤷‍♂️

When were you last on a road trip with the car?

In our summer trip to Asheville, NC, while we had to plug in to different cables several times, we never had to call EA or lost significant time while trying to rectify problems.

On this trip, we encountered problems at chargers in:

North Charleston, SC
Pooler, GA (Savannah suburb)
Brunswick, GA
Bushnell, FL

Another driver we met in Brunswick who had to enlist help there from EA told me he had the same problem at his next stop in Port St. Lucie, FL. A friend in Naples has a VW ID.4, and he's so far been unable to get the Naples EA chargers to connect to his car. When he drives over to the east coast, although his car came with a free EA charging plan, he doesn't even try to find an EA charger and instead uses ChargePoint chargers that are in some parking garages.

And now Kyle Conner of "Out of Spec Motoring" is reporting that none of the new-generation chargers EA is installing will connect to a car in severe cold weather.

All I can recommend is to stay in warm weather and avoid the southeast. As Florida has the second-highest EV adoption rate in the country (behind only California), this is bad news for the non-Tesla EV owners down here. Long-time EV fan that I am, I actually would recommend to friends that they avoid CCS-standard EV purchases until this situation is cleaned up.
 
Is it possible to gather all the road trip and charging threads in 1 place? Also is it possible to create a template to capture and summarize as we get more data? I am thinking that once we have enough deliveries of touring and pure base model too, tracking can be only for sapphire, gravity and any new model and the road trip becomes more interesting. It would be great if we can easily follow what others did.
 
When were you last on a road trip with the car?

In our summer trip to Asheville, NC, while we had to plug in to different cables several times, we never had to call EA or lost significant time while trying to rectify problems.

On this trip, we encountered problems at chargers in:

North Charleston, SC
Pooler, GA (Savannah suburb)
Brunswick, GA
Bushnell, FL

Another driver we met in Brunswick who had to enlist help there from EA told me he had the same problem at his next stop in Port St. Lucie, FL. A friend in Naples has a VW ID.4, and he's so far been unable to get the Naples EA chargers to connect to his car. When he drives over to the east coast, although his car came with a free EA charging plan, he doesn't even try to find an EA charger and instead uses ChargePoint chargers that are in some parking garages.

And now Kyle Conner of "Out of Spec Motoring" is reporting that none of the new-generation chargers EA is installing will connect to a car in severe cold weather.

All I can recommend is to stay in warm weather and avoid the southeast. As Florida has the second-highest EV adoption rate in the country (behind only California), this is bad news for the non-Tesla EV owners down here. Long-time EV fan that I am, I actually would recommend to friends that they avoid CCS-standard EV purchases until this situation is cleaned up.
Few weeks ago. But I’m in CA 🤷‍♂️
 
Scratching my head a bit over these problem threads. After a number of overnight trips in my AGT, delivered in April, I have not had any problem with the car on the road. At home my GPS location froze a few days before I got the first 2.0.x update that fixed it. I have mostly avoided EA problems by [planning ahead on both EA and Lucid's app map. Often EA will say a station is good, but if it shows as bad on the Lucid app I now know to avoid it. The 150 chargers have been generally more reliable for me while the 350's here in the middle of the country seldom give as much as the car is asking for.
I wonder about the clusters of issues some cars have. I would think (hope) that Lucid is working a systematic analysis to identify a root cause(s) rather than just having service centers throw parts at the problem.
 
Scratching my head a bit over these problem threads. After a number of overnight trips in my AGT, delivered in April, I have not had any problem with the car on the road. At home my GPS location froze a few days before I got the first 2.0.x update that fixed it. I have mostly avoided EA problems by [planning ahead on both EA and Lucid's app map. Often EA will say a station is good, but if it shows as bad on the Lucid app I now know to avoid it. The 150 chargers have been generally more reliable for me while the 350's here in the middle of the country seldom give as much as the car is asking for.
I wonder about the clusters of issues some cars have. I would think (hope) that Lucid is working a systematic analysis to identify a root cause(s) rather than just having service centers throw parts at the problem.
I think it's just how these things go. The forum is biased towards negative stories.

So it seems like there's a lot of issues when most of us are actually driving around problem free or only with minor issues.
 
I think it's just how these things go. The forum is biased towards negative stories.

So it seems like there's a lot of issues when most of us are actually driving around problem free or only with minor issues.
I don't think it is forum bias. It is simply that folks on forums like this post problems or questions, rarely post that their ride is problem free. So the results are skewed toward problems. Consumer Reports system of statistically evaluating hundreds or thousands of reliability reports is a better system than trusting a forum like this but it is too early in the Lucid era for CR to post such reports (I checked...nothing on Lucid other than a mostly blank cover page)..
 
I don't think it is forum bias. It is simply that folks on forums like this post problems or questions, rarely post that their ride is problem free. So the results are skewed toward problems. Consumer Reports system of statistically evaluating hundreds or thousands of reliability reports is a better system than trusting a forum like this but it is too early in the Lucid era for CR to post such reports (I checked...nothing on Lucid other than a mostly blank cover page)..
Yup yup that's what I meant. 😇
 
I don't think it is forum bias. It is simply that folks on forums like this post problems or questions, rarely post that their ride is problem free. So the results are skewed toward problems. Consumer Reports system of statistically evaluating hundreds or thousands of reliability reports is a better system than trusting a forum like this but it is too early in the Lucid era for CR to post such reports (I checked...nothing on Lucid other than a mostly blank cover page)..
Actually CR has a Lucid on order and will review it once it arrives.
 
So I guess I should make up for that by complaining that I'm missing out on all those fun repairs... BUT-
Last night I whacked my driver's side mirror while backing out of my garage. Now I can have my very own repair thread!
 
So I guess I should make up for that by complaining that I'm missing out on all those fun repairs... BUT-
Last night I whacked my driver's side mirror while backing out of my garage. Now I can have my very own repair thread!
Is there any sort of quick auto fold the exterior mirrors? I live in a home built in the early 50's and getting in and out of the single garage bay won't be easy. Old 1970's whales wouldn't go in or out. I would like to pop a button and mirrors fold in. Pop again, mirrors fold out. Is this or something like it possible? Mycar is coming sometime in January.
 
Is there any sort of quick auto fold the exterior mirrors? I live in a home built in the early 50's and getting in and out of the single garage bay won't be easy. Old 1970's whales wouldn't go in or out. I would like to pop a button and mirrors fold in. Pop again, mirrors fold out. Is this or something like it possible? Mycar is coming sometime in January.
This is located on the main screen of the Pilot Panel (the screen in the middle of the car). Near the buttons for adjusting the mirrors and steering wheel.

The mirrors will pop out again when you hit a certain speed (not sure if it’s 5 or 10 mph, so just go slow. Sounds like you want to do that, anyway, in that tight garage.
 
Is there any sort of quick auto fold the exterior mirrors? I live in a home built in the early 50's and getting in and out of the single garage bay won't be easy. Old 1970's whales wouldn't go in or out. I would like to pop a button and mirrors fold in. Pop again, mirrors fold out. Is this or something like it possible? Mycar is coming sometime in January.
Yeah my garage was built in 1940, the button fold for the mirrors saves me every time. It usually takes two taps instead of one though, glitchiness with the touch interface I guess.

As for the EA problems reported here, to be fair the only location that’s given me a major problem is unfortunately the one near my house, zero success rate on any station since early October. Any other EA that sucked for me sucked for non-lucid owners as well.
 
Yeah my garage was built in 1940, the button fold for the mirrors saves me every time. It usually takes two taps instead of one though, glitchiness with the touch interface I guess.

As for the EA problems reported here, to be fair the only location that’s given me a major problem is unfortunately the one near my house, zero success rate on any station since early October. Any other EA that sucked for me sucked for non-lucid owners as well.
And would have saved me if I hadn't been overconfident that one time.
 
And would have saved me if I hadn't been overconfident that one time.
I have noticed that fold mirrors button is rather unpredictable in whether it will need one press, two presses, three, etc, so I can see how one could break their mirrors thinking they were folded if they were in a hurry!
 
And would have saved me if I hadn't been overconfident that one time.

I have noticed that fold mirrors button is rather unpredictable in whether it will need one press, two presses, three, etc, so I can see how one could break their mirrors thinking they were folded if they were in a hurry!
Saw this as well, I feel like it's a two touch incase someone accidentally pushes it.

Notice how the Frunk and Trunk buttons from the app have that extra confirmation, "you sure you want to open it?"
Whereas I think the mirrors are something you can fold while moving, so maybe there's just lack of prompt? idk
 
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