Yay Hardware upgrade CPU and memory

[ViperSSD]

I’m not trying to convince anyone. I agree with you it will only matter to some people.

I was just clarifying the distinction between the chip of old and the chip of new.

Ok, your persistence convinced me

 

[mraschko]

What really intrigues me about this update it the increased storage. I don't think the Air currently stores much - profile pic, settings, infotainment favorites, presumably some offline maps... Doubling storage really only seems to make sense if there's something more to store...

 

[Yenaphe]

Nope. Generally everything is just faster and works better.


Stark in things that used to lag, like moving the map around. Otherwise subtle.


Nobody is forcing you or anyone else. Drive your Air over to a service studio and play with a model with the new chip and see what you think. YMMV.


Mine was always fine, but it’s hard to say; I always use the center wheel out of habit.


For what?

For what?

There are plenty of other upgrades; heat pump, motor improvements, new TCU, etc.

A new CCC doesn’t turn your car into a Sapphire. CCC stands for Car Communication Computer - in effect, it controls infotainment. It makes your infotainment system snappier, gives it more memory, etc.

It doesn’t replace anything else.

Wait a minute! Can I upgrade my AGT22 to have a heat pump? Or were you just suggesting these could be additional upgrades that could be offered in the future?

 

[Yenaphe]

What really intrigues me about this update it the increased storage. I don't think the Air currently stores much - profile pic, settings, infotainment favorites, presumably some offline maps... Doubling storage really only seems to make sense if there's something more to store...

Offline maps are something that can take some space. But last year in the future ÔTA slide deck, dashcam was listed, and I guess that could also require extra room. Do we know what size the storage is on the base ccc?

 

[borski]

Wait a minute! Can I upgrade my AGT22 to have a heat pump? Or were you just suggesting these could be additional upgrades that could be offered in the future?

Neither. I was simply highlighting the differences between the older Airs and the 2025+/Sapphire models.

 

[Batteryman]

You’re seriously calling a three year old car a dinosaur? …. They may both be software driven, but they are not the same. Particularly when this car costs 60-100 times as much as a high end phone.

What I’m saying is if you want improvements, accept the bugs that are inevitable…..these bugs will gradually be addressed

 

[yash3030]

If someone can detail a bit what features will this upgrade impact, it will really help me with a decision (or point me to the message where it might have been covered already)

@marqie

 

[SaratogaLefty]

I don't really need my screens to be any faster; they are fine as is. My thinking however is that perhaps this will enable future upgrades that might be too large for the current memory to handle so why not. In any case at this point another $950 is insignificant.

 

[Lucid510]

I have an appointment set for the CCC hardware upgrade. Considering the Tesla MCU upgrade is $2500 this is a bargain from Lucid.

 

[borski]

If someone can detail a bit what features will this upgrade impact, it will really help me with a decision (or point me to the message where it might have been covered already)

@marqie

Any infotainment functions will be a bit faster and have less lag. That is all it will affect.

 

[yash3030]

I have an appointment set for the CCC hardware upgrade. Considering the Tesla MCU upgrade is $2500 this is a bargain from Lucid.

I believe Tesla's upgrade also included upgrade to their FSD module and not just infotainment bit, but i could be wrong

 

[SM_NCarolina]

After reviewing the discussion, I'm strongly considering the CCCv2 upgrade for my 2022 Lucid Air Grand Touring (AGT'22). I contacted the Atlanta Service Center, my nearest location, to inquire about the upgrade's availability and estimated time. The representative informed me that the upgrade could be performed via mobile service and would take approximately three hours.

However, information on forums regarding this is conflicting, with some users reporting contradictory message when contacting their service centers.

I'm prepared to schedule the mobile upgrade today, eagerly anticipating the enhanced system. My primary concern is the potential for a last-minute change requiring me to bring the car to the Atlanta service center. This would undoubtedly complicate the upgrade process.

Given the widespread customer base, it would be beneficial for Lucid to provide clearer and more consistent messaging.
While Lucid excels in many areas, these fundamental communication aspects could be improved. I believe this is an area @nicktwork at Lucid should address.

 

[JMason]

This really excites those ‘early adopter/get that upgrade now’ genes of mine. However the details are a bit sketchy beyond a snappier response on my infotainment screens. At the moment my AT’23 meets my needs and the infotainment system is more than adequate. Also, installation times, have to take it to a care center, can get it from mobile service, takes 5 hours takes 2 to 3 hours, etc…indicates service centers/techs were not really prepared for this release.

If this upgrade does offer more capabilities in the future for AHD and other tech then it would be worthwhile. At the moment I think I’ll let things shake out, see what real world experience folks have with it, and what future OTA updates requires its additional capacities (chip/storage).

 

[Neuner89]

I have a '22 Air GT. One of the first built, and it's great. I do recall having to wait an extra 6 months to get delivery, and also at the time there was a global chip shortage. Have always noticed things are a little slow (parking sensors for instance) and the overall UI. Especially versus my first Tesla S P75D version 1 back in 2016. Always thought they put slower yet available chips in there to push deliveries and simply not told us as was their modus operandi, but obviously can't confirm this. Having to spend an extra $1k for what I should have received at the outset for a $140k car is a little disingenuous in my opinion. Might still do it- as again I love love love the physical car (build quality, range, looks, performance, reliability and luxury) - but whoever was running the tech back in the day was either grossly incompetent or fraudulent. Peter touted 36 Sensors!!! - Level 3 capable self driving!!! Not with that original chip apparently. Hope new management team will focus on honesty- say what you will about Elon and RJ - but they're straight shooters.

 

[segbrk]

Always thought they put slower yet available chips in there to push deliveries and simply not told us as was their modus operandi, but obviously can't confirm this

Nope, it's a pretty nice and powerful automotive-rated chip, it's just from 2016. The Air design took a while due to low resources and fundraising and that part didn't get an upgrade until now.

but whoever was running the tech back in the day was either grossly incompetent or fraudulent. Peter touted 36 Sensors!!! - Level 3 capable self driving!!! Not with that original chip apparently.

All of these words are true. This chip / this computer has nothing to do with ADAS.

 

[Bobby]

I have a '22 Air GT. One of the first built, and it's great. I do recall having to wait an extra 6 months to get delivery, and also at the time there was a global chip shortage. Have always noticed things are a little slow (parking sensors for instance) and the overall UI. Especially versus my first Tesla S P75D version 1 back in 2016. Always thought they put slower yet available chips in there to push deliveries and simply not told us as was their modus operandi, but obviously can't confirm this. Having to spend an extra $1k for what I should have received at the outset for a $140k car is a little disingenuous in my opinion. Might still do it- as again I love love love the physical car (build quality, range, looks, performance, reliability and luxury) - but whoever was running the tech back in the day was either grossly incompetent or fraudulent. Peter touted 36 Sensors!!! - Level 3 capable self driving!!! Not with that original chip apparently. Hope new management team will focus on honesty- say what you will about Elon and RJ - but they're straight shooters.

I’ve met Peter several times and never found him dishonest in the slightest. If he said there were 36 sensors in the car, I will bet there are. I have never found Lucid to be disingenuous… But I have found that they tend to overpromise sometimes. And be particularly bad at target dates. As time goes on, they are making good on as many of those promises as possible it seems.

 

[johnse]

Peter touted 36 Sensors!!! - Level 3 capable self driving!!! Not with that original chip apparently.

The CCC has nothing to do with ADAS other than the driver display. From what I've read, their ADAS system has redundant power and processors. Every company making ADAS systems segregates them from the infotainment system.

I believe Tesla's upgrade also included upgrade to their FSD module and not just infotainment bit, but i could be wrong

FSD is, again, completely separate from infotainment. When I upgraded my X from EAP to FSD (During a sale), they upgraded my FSD HW2.5 to HW 3.

 

[scal_air]

I have a '22 Air GT. One of the first built, and it's great. I do recall having to wait an extra 6 months to get delivery, and also at the time there was a global chip shortage. Have always noticed things are a little slow (parking sensors for instance) and the overall UI. Especially versus my first Tesla S P75D version 1 back in 2016. Always thought they put slower yet available chips in there to push deliveries and simply not told us as was their modus operandi, but obviously can't confirm this. Having to spend an extra $1k for what I should have received at the outset for a $140k car is a little disingenuous in my opinion. Might still do it- as again I love love love the physical car (build quality, range, looks, performance, reliability and luxury) - but whoever was running the tech back in the day was either grossly incompetent or fraudulent. Peter touted 36 Sensors!!! - Level 3 capable self driving!!! Not with that original chip apparently. Hope new management team will focus on honesty- say what you will about Elon and RJ - but they're straight shooters.

Considering the V2 chips weren't installed until late 2024, you could be right in that they were unavailable due to shortage or they didn't exist. Alot happens in chip development in 2-3 years. Would you have preferred a two year delay in delivery of your AGT? Of course not. Providing the upgrade at this price seems to be a kindness from Lucid and you have the option not to upgrade. Currently Level 3 self driving is limited by software - something Lucid is carefully (cautiously?) developing due to safety concerns.

As far as Elon being a "straight shooter", I'll let the forum decide that one. But let me remind you about his history with FSD and multiple pronouncements of when it will arrive...

 

[LucidAT-KC]

Can’t help but have mixed feelings about this. Seems like a lot of what it’s improving is stuff that doesn’t work properly in the original infotainment, which seems like it should be covered by warranty since the original system doesn’t really work as sold. The branding of it all as an upgrade is obviously designed to avoid any admission that there were glaring issues with the infotainment as sold. Which is legitimately surprising given how many substantial upgrades and improvements HAVE been covered under warranty since 2022.

Meanwhile, my software issues have gotten dramatically worse (as in, the entire system takes twice as long to start when I try and get the car going, and I’ve had to reset it quite a bit more often to even get all the screens going) since the last software update. Now that we know about this, it feels likely that the latest software was designed for the upgraded hardware and wasn’t really designed for the original unit. Yes, that’s something phone manufacturers have been doing for over a decade, but to have it start happening to cars (where the software gets updated to the point that the hardware stops working properly unless you pay to upgrade it) is pretty concerning if it becomes a pattern.

I’ll reserve final judgment until we have some real world reports regarding the process and the change, but I’m curious if other people have suddenly finicky software issues that arose with 2.7 that just miraculously go away when they spend $950… it IS great to have optional upgrade paths for consumers if that’s truly all it is, but if future software updates continue to work poorly on the system as sold, that would be a problem. Because then it’s not really optional or an upgrade.

I too have had more software issues since the last software update. The car takes a lot longer to “boot up” when I first get in in the morning with black screens for several seconds. The complete “silent treatment” is also happening more frequently. Silent treatment as in no radio, no audible turn signal click, no audible noise when touching the touch screen. The only way to rectify is to reboot which is a pain when you’re headed to work.

 

[David R.]

I believe Tesla's upgrade also included upgrade to their FSD module and not just infotainment bit, but i could be wrong

That is correct, that upgrade enabled FSD access as well, then I had to pay the $99 monthly fee for FSD until I bought it outright for $2k.