Sorry but I don't get what that does for me...and I find the LCID website really hard to find answers for this kind os issue...you guys with great tech depth are helping bridge that gap...
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the 360 view? All the cameras generate a sphere of video around your car. You can activate it by hitting the parking symbol as long as you are driving less than 15 mph. It's adjustable so you can see all around your car. The blind spot display is the cameras which activate on the driver instrument panel when you activate your signal. This feature essentially removes the necessity for you to turn your head back to see if there is a car in your blind spot.
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i agree, especially at an air's price point. maybe they saw the backlash tesla got for charging 12k for a "software," and they can't justify just a lidar installation to be 9k, so they decided to move 2 tangible features to the DDP and sell it an actual upgrades, in addition to "future-proofing" the car.
My understanding is that DDP adds not only Lidar, but more cameras. 360 is not possible without all of those cameras. Maybe I’m mistaken on that, though.
The way I look at it, 9k on a $110k car is not a huge expense. Unlike FSD, DDP isn’t promising the moon. It’s giving you a couple of nice perks at present, and the possibility of a few other nice things down the line. At least they aren’t suggesting the car will drive itself by the end of the year.
To me, it’s the perfect example of something that should be an option for a car like the Touring or Air. Let each of us decide if it’s worth it or not. Bundle it in with the GT as an incentive to get the higher trim.
Seems like smart business to me.
A lot of people here seem to want a GT at the Touring price. That’s human nature, but it’s no way to run a business.
Still wish massage seats were an option on the Touring, too. I feel like Lucid is leaving money on the table with that one.
Oh, so you don't get that either with just DD? 9k extra on a 100k car.
I think of in terms of opportunity cost - what could I spend that 9k on that I’d enjoy more?
Impatient7536
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the DDP does give you more cameras, and that was confirmed by my SA too. maybe i'm in the minority here, but i just think the blind spot display is such a widespread feature in other cars that it shouldn't be locked behind this upgrade at this price (9k) and of this car caliber.
in a way, i think they were smart locking the massage chair behind the GT, because it really forced buyers to pay a "premium" with that jump. i just think that premium jump was too big to justify, and may have cost some reservation holders like me. if it was $20k or less, i think i would have done the jump...~$28k for massage chair, 100 miles more range (which has diminishing returns since this car already has crazy range), and more HP. i know there are a few more subtle differences, but those were probably the three biggest selling point differences.
but in general, i think you're right, at least with this 9k, 1) it's not as expensive as tesla 2) we're getting actual tangible upgrades, physical (lidar and more cameras) and software (360 and blind spot display)
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They need something tangible to differentiate DDP vs vanilla DD until (if ever) DDP actually does something. Shame it had to be something that would be unremarkable on an economy car.
I agree. If it had been closer to a $20k difference, I would very likely have been talked into upgrading to GT. The more range would be welcome, but I actually like the lower footwell of the Touring. Sitting in the back of the GT, I felt it was roomier than any sedan I had been in for many years, and yet, that angle of your knees is noticeable.
Horsepower is nice, but realistically how often am I going to drive to those limits? I'm not as young and stupid as I once was. And at 3.5-second 0-60, the Touring is already going to be the fastest car I've ever owned, anyway.
In the end, I couldn't justify to myself $30k just to get the massage seats.
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While inquiring about delivery dates and test drives, we got this reply;
I'm pretty sure this car won't arrive in 2022.
I'm pretty sure this car won't arrive in 2022.
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The above conversation was a result of the upgrade e-mail...and yeah, I'm staying put.
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We received the same upgrade email today.
Reservation Confirmed: Dec 12, 2021: Touring, Black/Mojave, Glass roof, 20" wheels
Reservation Confirmed: Dec 12, 2021: Touring, Black/Mojave, Glass roof, 20" wheels
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December 12, 2021. Black. Mojave. @Constitution1st
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"opportunity cost'? Interesting way of looking at it, but I would forego the opportunity to spend $9000 on something that comes standard on BMW
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Terminology is now “later second half of the year”. Certainly doesn’t sound promising for Q3. Definitely doesn’t sound promising for more than 10 Pures produced in Q4 as they are still promising.
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"The later second half of the year."
It's amazing to me the pretzels into which marketing and sales people will twist their words.
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