Teetering in Oregon

[Bus Driver]

As Her Majesty the late Queen of England very starkly demonstrated - “you can’t take it with you”.

 

[Coltonw011]

Based on what Lucid's are going for on the used market, I'd be highly inclined at this point to see if you could get a used Touring and save the money, assuming the charging credit transfers.

Credits do not transfer

 

[Jeanwoodie]

I'm 71 and have had six orthopedic surgeries (too many years as an avid runner and weight lifter) plus arthritis in back and neck. We have the Dream Edition seats, and I'm not clear on what adjustments you lose on the Pure and Touring trim levels. However, I can tell you the Lucid is the most comfortable distance cruiser we've ever owned -- once you're in the car. And it goes beyond seating to the ease of using the manual controls, the quiet of the cabin that conveys solidity and road composure instead of a tomb-like experience, to legroom that can put the front firewall well beyond your reach if you so desire.

On the other hand . . . . you say you've visited a Design Studio. I would recommend focusing on getting into and out of the car. I find it a bit more difficult than in most other cars due to the structural and aerodynamic imperatives of its design, although I have developed the motor memory that allows me to handle ingress and egress tolerably well. However, a friend who is more limited in his range of motion bought a Dream Edition and seldom drives it due to this issue.

Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love this car, and driving it makes me feel like a teenager on his first solo drive. There are days 14 months after delivery that I still look for an excuse to take the car out. But there apparently weren't any 70-year-olds on the design team.

Excellent synopsis.

I'm 71 and have had six orthopedic surgeries (too many years as an avid runner and weight lifter) plus arthritis in back and neck. We have the Dream Edition seats, and I'm not clear on what adjustments you lose on the Pure and Touring trim levels. However, I can tell you the Lucid is the most comfortable distance cruiser we've ever owned -- once you're in the car. And it goes beyond seating to the ease of using the manual controls, the quiet of the cabin that conveys solidity and road composure instead of a tomb-like experience, to legroom that can put the front firewall well beyond your reach if you so desire.

On the other hand . . . . you say you've visited a Design Studio. I would recommend focusing on getting into and out of the car. I find it a bit more difficult than in most other cars due to the structural and aerodynamic imperatives of its design, although I have developed the motor memory that allows me to handle ingress and egress tolerably well. However, a friend who is more limited in his range of motion bought a Dream Edition and seldom drives it due to this issue.

Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love this car, and driving it makes me feel like a teenager on his first solo drive. There are days 14 months after delivery that I still look for an excuse to take the car out. But there apparently weren't any 70-year-olds on the design team.

Excellent synopsis.
Currently at 17,201 miles with first trip being round day trip to Coeur d’Lane Idaho from Cle Elum Wa, total of 460 miles; for dinner and to confirm range - day after delivery. Then a couple weeks later Denver trip followed by a Michigan trip and then October trip to Arizona.
Now itching for a Florida trip this spring, just any excuse will do.
As for getting in and out it takes just a bit of practice before it becomes second mature. I’m a big guy at 240# and learned not to try getting in with a cowboy hat on. Easiest is to sit, duck and swing kegs in and repeat for exit. Peter Rawlinson has a video of 6’6” employees getting in both front and back effortlessly
However the Lucid is NOT an SUV but no more difficult than many sedans.
Once seated you’re in the most comfortable sedan in the world which handles and drives more like a sports-car.
My age? A bit beyond 70.

 

[hmp10]

77 here and getting a new left hip tomorrow. It will be way easier for me to get in and out of the GV60. There is no way that Lucid can make getting in and out of a sedan comparable to doing so in a crossover. I understand that. But it should not have been difficult for Lucid to add easy entry/easy exit since the computer will merely be telling the seat to go backwards and the steering wheel to rise when you open the door and to return to the set position when you close the door. That would definitely make it easier for us old geezers to get in and out.

I dealt with two big disappointments during my 3-year wait for our car. The first was when it finally became clear the stupendous legroom (for a car its size) of the rear seat was going to be a bit compromised by putting additional battery modules under the rear floorboard of the most powerful versions of the car. (But it still beats the Tesla Model S legroom all to hell and even goes head-to-head with the MB EQS on its 10" longer wheelbase.)

The second was when Lucid canceled plans to have power-operated doors, as I had already discovered on early Design Studio visits that the wide door swings made reaching the handles to pull the door closed difficult with the low roof cantrails.

I'm still holding out hope for a software update that adds an exit program setting for the front seats.

 

[Gizmoidal]

I'm 71 and have had six orthopedic surgeries (too many years as an avid runner and weight lifter) plus arthritis in back and neck. We have the Dream Edition seats, and I'm not clear on what adjustments you lose on the Pure and Touring trim levels. However, I can tell you the Lucid is the most comfortable distance cruiser we've ever owned -- once you're in the car. And it goes beyond seating to the ease of using the manual controls, the quiet of the cabin that conveys solidity and road composure instead of a tomb-like experience, to legroom that can put the front firewall well beyond your reach if you so desire.

On the other hand . . . . you say you've visited a Design Studio. I would recommend focusing on getting into and out of the car. I find it a bit more difficult than in most other cars due to the structural and aerodynamic imperatives of its design, although I have developed the motor memory that allows me to handle ingress and egress tolerably well. However, a friend who is more limited in his range of motion bought a Dream Edition and seldom drives it due to this issue.

Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love this car, and driving it makes me feel like a teenager on his first solo drive. There are days 14 months after delivery that I still look for an excuse to take the car out. But there apparently weren't any 70-year-olds on the design team.

When we were at the Studio, I noticed this exact problem. I had my left knee replaced a year ago, and getting into and out of the car was a bit of a strain. I'm not sure if the passenger's side would be a bit easier because I would be putting the stress on my natural knee. We've decided to do another test drive just to see if we can make getting into and out of the car a bit less of a struggle.

Interesting side note: Apparently Lucid was caught in some legal crossfire in the state of Washington, so the Studio can neither call itself a "dealership" nor act like one. That means no Lucid test drives in the state of Washington, and the advisers cannot talk pricing in any way. The test drives are at weekend events here in Oregon and in Idaho. To get the price of upgrading to an AT, I had to contact the sales folks in California.

 

[Gizmoidal]

I struggled with spending the $'s on the Touring as well. I justified it by telling myself it was roughly the same cost as the Tesla Model S (if including their driver assist) but a better overall car and the only option on the market with the range, style and finish that I wanted. I have a feeling in a year there will be similar options (Audi A6, BMW i5, etc.) that may or may not be better and at a better price point, but I needed to get something prior to 2024. Based on what Lucid's are going for on the used market, I'd be highly inclined at this point to see if you could get a used Touring and save the money, assuming the charging credit transfers.

I did have a look at CarMax. Not much there in the way of Lucids, and the prices weren't that great. It seems like the car resellers (CarMax, Carvana) may have taken it in the shorts when they were paying exorbitant prices for used cars and then the market slowed down. We were shopping for a used Toyota for my sister a few weeks, and the used prices in some cases were almost the same as new prices. We wound up buying her a new one because the savings just weren't that great.

 

[Gizmoidal]

77 here and getting a new left hip tomorrow. It will be way easier for me to get in and out of the GV60. There is no way that Lucid can make getting in and out of a sedan comparable to doing so in a crossover. I understand that. But it should not have been difficult for Lucid to add easy entry/easy exit since the computer will merely be telling the seat to go backwards and the steering wheel to rise when you open the door and to return to the set position when you close the door. That would definitely make it easier for us old geezers to get in and out.

The EV6 adjust seat position on entry and exit. It's a nice feature. Also, because it's a crossover and therefore higher than a sedan, getting in and out is relatively easy with an artificial knee. It's the opposite for my mother, who lives with us and depends on us for transportation. She's 90 and stands about 4'11". Getting into and out of the EV6 is like doing gymnastics for her. The Air would be much easier.

 

[Coho]

When we were at the Studio, I noticed this exact problem. I had my left knee replaced a year ago, and getting into and out of the car was a bit of a strain. I'm not sure if the passenger's side would be a bit easier because I would be putting the stress on my natural knee. We've decided to do another test drive just to see if we can make getting into and out of the car a bit less of a struggle.

Interesting side note: Apparently Lucid was caught in some legal crossfire in the state of Washington, so the Studio can neither call itself a "dealership" nor act like one. That means no Lucid test drives in the state of Washington, and the advisers cannot talk pricing in any way. The test drives are at weekend events here in Oregon and in Idaho. To get the price of upgrading to an AT, I had to contact the sales folks in California.

I wouldn’t let orthopedic issues slow you down on the car. I am a long term right above knee amputee and no car is ideal for getting in and out. But the Lucid is entirely acceptable for me. Biggest complaint would be car is a bit low for easy egress and no issue at all for getting in. For those with fresh joint replacements, work on your rehab for good range of motion, wait for the pain issues to resolved and you should fine it no challenge at all. Just another feature of getting older and adapting. The car is a wonderful beast and Im convinced anyone can make it work without a lot of fuss. And BtW, I love the one pedal driving. Easiest controls to master of any car I have driven.

 

[AZLucidGuy]

Hello all — long time lurker, first time poster here. Like a number of you, I’ve had my AP reserved for going on a year. I got my notice to confirm, and now I’m giving some real thought to upgrading to the AT. My wife and I visited the Seattle studio a week ago and learned that the Pure front seats are only about half as adjustable as the two higher trims. This is an issue for us because we’re older and comfort is paramount. We did a 9500 mile cross-country road trip in our EV6 last summer and boy howdy, driving 300 miles in a day was torture. There are things to like about the EV6 but cabin comfort isn’t one of them.

The big issue is the price of the AT. We can afford it, but I was raised by a father who was tight with a buck, and, were he still alive, I can imagine the dinner-table conversations where I try to explain why spending $100k on a car really does make sense. My wife and I are stuck in this endless loop of “That’s a lot of money, but what a perfect car for our needs!”

For what it’s worth, we had almost no trouble at all with charging last summer. We did about half of our DCFC at EA locations, and stayed at hotels with free L2 charging whenever possible. My only complaint about the DCFC ecosystem is that I now have about 10 different accounts with various charging companies (half of them in Canada, which we drove through heading east), many of which auto-load about $5-$20 into the account when my balance drops below some threshold.

Anyway, I just wanted to let you all know that I’ve learned a lot from these forums, and it has been quite comforting to see so many of you in love with your Lucids. Sorry for meandering here, but we really are teetering about the car, and the big issue is the price tag (even with legacy pricing and the $7500 rebate, the AT clocks in at $104k, a price that makes my wife’s eyes pop. That is with SS and the DA pro package, both of which make sense for us)

I suggest go for the Touring. I have a GT but the “sweet spot” is probably the Touring. Most of the GT and significantly more than the Pure.

 

[WildRide47]

The EV6 adjust seat position on entry and exit. It's a nice feature. Also, because it's a crossover and therefore higher than a sedan, getting in and out is relatively easy with an artificial knee. It's the opposite for my mother, who lives with us and depends on us for transportation. She's 90 and stands about 4'11". Getting into and out of the EV6 is like doing gymnastics for her. The Air would be much easier.

I live in the Portland area and have a AGT.

Once you get into and out of the car several times, muscle memory takes over and you don't think about it. It becomes natural entering and exiting the car without mishap. I believe hmp10 discovered this and it was true for me.

Of course everybody is different as far as physical limitations go.

 

[DeaneG]

For anyone trying to decide between a GT and a loaded Touring - we found the massaging seats to help reduce fatigue on day-long drives. But even without massage, the seats are very comfortable, more so than the ten or so other cars we've owned.

 

[Ampere]

I am so glad Lucid talked me into upgrading from the Pure to the Touring. I didn't think I wanted the small improvements in the Touring (listed previously on this thread), but in fact they make a big difference. I'm glad I spent the extra $10K on the Touring and am thrilled with the car. (Although I could live without the glass canopy, which I spent $1K having darkened.) The more I drive the Touring, the more I live it. So far 300 miles and no major surprises.

 

[level]

I recently upgraded my order to Touring from Pure. Is it a little bit over my budget? Yes.
But I will not regret it. After the test-drive, I decided it's well worth the upgrading.
The extra HP, leather seats, soft closing doors, window shades, and canopy are all nice features I really like. So why not.
Like WildRide47 mentioned earlier, we only live once.

 

[MorganB]

Touring seat controls :

 

[Jeanwoodie]

When we were at the Studio, I noticed this exact problem. I had my left knee replaced a year ago, and getting into and out of the car was a bit of a strain. I'm not sure if the passenger's side would be a bit easier because I would be putting the stress on my natural knee. We've decided to do another test drive just to see if we can make getting into and out of the car a bit less of a struggle.

Interesting side note: Apparently Lucid was caught in some legal crossfire in the state of Washington, so the Studio can neither call itself a "dealership" nor act like one. That means no Lucid test drives in the state of Washington, and the advisers cannot talk pricing in any way. The test drives are at weekend events here in Oregon and in Idaho. To get the price of upgrading to an AT, I had to contact the sales folks in California.

Per my query from ChatOn:
“Tesla is able to offer test drives in Washington State because they have been granted an exemption from the state's in-person retail sales ban due to their all-electric vehicle focus. Lucid, on the other hand, does not have this exemption and is therefore not able to offer test drives in Washington State at this time.”

 

[hydbob]

Per my query from ChatOn:
“Tesla is able to offer test drives in Washington State because they have been granted an exemption from the state's in-person retail sales ban due to their all-electric vehicle focus. Lucid, on the other hand, does not have this exemption and is therefore not able to offer test drives in Washington State at this time.”

Gee, I wonder who has more money to contribute to someone's slush fund...

 

[Bus Driver]

Per my query from ChatOn:
“Tesla is able to offer test drives in Washington State because they have been granted an exemption from the state's in-person retail sales ban due to their all-electric vehicle focus. Lucid, on the other hand, does not have this exemption and is therefore not able to offer test drives in Washington State at this time.”

It all seems really arbitrary.

 

[Jeanwoodie]

Gee, I wonder who has more money to contribute to someone's slush fund...

I understand this was 2014 Washington law which allowed Tesla to get a ‘grandfathered exemption.

 

[yiling1990]

Is this a recent change? I definitely test drove a Lucid at the U-Village Studio last summer...

 

[SCOOTERSD]

I suggest go for the Touring. I have a GT but the “sweet spot” is probably the Touring. Most of the GT and significantly more than the Pure.

I think Motor Trend also said this same thing ….and it was my reason for choosing the AT.