Software Update 2.5

Ric

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After installing 2.5, I find my sound in my 2024 Air is significantly improved, and I do not have Pro. Also the ability to not have regenerative braking is great. My spouse would not drive the car before because it was so different from her Lexus. I also think using this setting for going through a car wash will be much better. Thanks Lucid!
 
...Also the ability to not have regenerative braking is great...
I am from Tesla, and its regen is not as strong as Lucid's. I love regen. The stronger, the better. I prefer one-pedal driving because it's intuitive. If I don't press on the accelerator, it should decelerate and stop without pressing on the brake.
 
I am from Tesla, and its regen is not as strong as Lucid's. I love regen. The stronger, the better. I prefer one-pedal driving because it's intuitive. If I don't press on the accelerator, it should decelerate and stop without pressing on the brake.
It's inefficient though.

I mean, that is indeed what Tesla did, but I don't see how it's intuitive. Nothing else works that way.

I personally think they only did it because blending regen and physical braking is very hard, so they took an easy way out and separated them.

But agreed, choice is good, why not both? And, so we have both.
 
...I don't see how it's intuitive. Nothing else works that way.
There are about 16,000 crashes due to pedal misapplication. In a panic, they would press on what they swear is "the brake pedal," but the more they press, the quicker the car lurches forward. In a one-pedal system, in a panic, don't press on any pedal at all if you want to stop. When you press a pedal, there's a 50-50 chance of getting the wrong pedal to stop the car.
 
Hi All,

I leased a 2024 Air GT circa September 1st, and this is my first post on the forum.

One of the features I was most excited about with this SW release was the ability to disable regen braking, as "one pedal" driving is generally not my preferred option, particularly on the Air GT, which requires noticeably greater foot pressure on the accelerator versus any other car I've ever driven. So I did the update today and did a quick test drive with regen disabled, and was shocked to discover that it is COMPLETELY disabled, even when the brake pedal is depressed. My assumption was that in "off" mode, regen wouldn't engage UNTIL the brake pedal was pressed (versus as soon as the accelerator was released as in standard/high modes). Am I crazy, or does anyone else think that's how it should have been implemented? Why would anyone want regen disabled during active braking?? That seems highly unsafe with such a heavy vehicle.

I assume Lucid has a "suggestion box" feature on their web site somewhere. If so, I will submit this feedback there as well. Meanwhile, I was curious to get thoughts from other Lucid drivers, in case I'm missing something obvious.
 
Hi All,

I leased a 2024 Air GT circa September 1st, and this is my first post on the forum.

One of the features I was most excited about with this SW release was the ability to disable regen braking, as "one pedal" driving is generally not my preferred option, particularly on the Air GT, which requires noticeably greater foot pressure on the accelerator versus any other car I've ever driven. So I did the update today and did a quick test drive with regen disabled, and was shocked to discover that it is COMPLETELY disabled, even when the brake pedal is depressed. My assumption was that in "off" mode, regen wouldn't engage UNTIL the brake pedal was pressed (versus as soon as the accelerator was released as in standard/high modes). Am I crazy, or does anyone else think that's how it should have been implemented? Why would anyone want regen disabled during active braking?? That seems highly unsafe with such a heavy vehicle.

I assume Lucid has a "suggestion box" feature on their web site somewhere. If so, I will submit this feedback there as well. Meanwhile, I was curious to get thoughts from other Lucid drivers, in case I'm missing something obvious.
There is no mode in which any regen occurs as a result of pressing on the brake pedal.
 
There is no mode in which any regen occurs as a result of pressing on the brake pedal.
Thanks for the reply. I guess my follow-up question is whether such a mode could (reasonably) be implemented? I've driven Toyota and Honda hybrids since 2001, and a Bolt EV for the last 18 months. ALL of those vehicles engage/increase regen when the brake pedal is depressed, hence my expectation that the Air would also do so.

In any case, this is probably a discussion for a dedicated thread on driver expectations and preferences regarding regen braking. Apologies for the digression.
 
After installing 2.5, I find my sound in my 2024 Air is significantly improved, and I do not have Pro. Also the ability to not have regenerative braking is great. My spouse would not drive the car before because it was so different from her Lexus. I also think using this setting for going through a car wash will be much better. Thanks Lucid!
Actually I go through the car wash with my regen set to high and it’s absolutely fine. Of course you have to be in neutral.
 
Thanks for the reply. I guess my follow-up question is whether such a mode could (reasonably) be implemented? I've driven Toyota and Honda hybrids since 2001, and a Bolt EV for the last 18 months. ALL of those vehicles engage/increase regen when the brake pedal is depressed, hence my expectation that the Air would also do so.

In any case, this is probably a discussion for a dedicated thread on driver expectations and preferences regarding regen braking. Apologies for the digression.
You've been familiar with the blending physical and regenerative braking triggered by a physical brake pedal from other brands.

With Lucid, to trigger a regenerative braking, you only need a passively change in speed and not relying on any physical pedal.
 
Thanks for the reply. I guess my follow-up question is whether such a mode could (reasonably) be implemented? I've driven Toyota and Honda hybrids since 2001, and a Bolt EV for the last 18 months. ALL of those vehicles engage/increase regen when the brake pedal is depressed, hence my expectation that the Air would also do so.

In any case, this is probably a discussion for a dedicated thread on driver expectations and preferences regarding regen braking. Apologies for the digression.
I have asked this very question of the drivetrain team and was told that they just could not find a way to achieve adequate braking feel so they decided to have mechanical brakes without a regeneration contribution. My prior EV, a Jaguar I Pace, did use regen on braking and I found it to be quite well blended with mechanical braking, but Lucid still does not intend to implement such a thing.
 
Actually I go through the car wash with my regen set to high and it’s absolutely fine. Of course you have to be in neutral.
Interesting. When I took it to the car wash they put a driver in the seat to facilitate it going through the entire wash cycle. I thought that was due to the 'hold' or regen setting. But you are saying that if they just put it in neutral the car can be pulled by the belt without a driver inside. Good to know. Thanks!
 
Interesting. When I took it to the car wash they put a driver in the seat to facilitate it going through the entire wash cycle. I thought that was due to the 'hold' or regen setting. But you are saying that if they just put it in neutral the car can be pulled by the belt without a driver inside. Good to know. Thanks!
The car wash I go to I sit in the car from start to finish. I’m not sure if you exit the car.
 
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