Real world range touring 19 inch wheels

[DeaneG]

Doubtful, Mine hasn’t changed much after a few thousand miles....

Lucid has mentioned this in the past.

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Folks, PLEASE also give your model YEAR as there were important changes to efficiency of the models beginning with the 2025's...

My current "lifetime" (first 700 miles in a '25 AGT -- all winter so far with temps in the 30's) stands at 3.82 mi/kWh. A combination of local and highway. Roughly 60% highway / 40% local.

 

[Lucken]

I think @Westcory did mention his was a 2025. The other very useful tidbit is if the stated efficiency numbers, especially in the winter, are where owners typically preheat/condition their cars while plugged in prior to leaving. This is particularly important to know where short trips are frequent. Although I rarely do that, when I do my efficiency #s are significantly higher. It’s a good habit to get into if you want to achieve higher #s, but I’m just too lazy.

Lots of variables!

 

[Blue Lectroid]

I think @Westcory did mention his was a 2025. The other very useful tidbit is if the stated efficiency numbers, especially in the winter, are where owners typically preheat/condition their cars while plugged in prior to leaving. This is particularly important to know where short trips are frequent. Although I rarely do that, when I do my efficiency #s are significantly higher. It’s a good habit to get into if you want to achieve higher #s, but I’m just too lazy.

Lots of variables!

Preheating makes a HUGE difference!

 

[Sid432]

Preheating makes a HUGE difference!

Yes, I have noticed today that. I pre-heat while plugged in to the charger. My efficiency was 3.5 m/kw where as earlier it was just 2.5

 

[Nitemist]

Yes, I have noticed today that. I pre-heat while plugged in to the charger. My efficiency was 3.5 m/kw where as earlier it was just 2.5

Sorry for my ignorance, but How do you "pre-heat"? Put the battery in pre-conditioning mode? Or turn on heat/defrost?

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Yes, I have noticed today that. I pre-heat while plugged in to the charger. My efficiency was 3.5 m/kw where as earlier it was just 2.5

AWESOME! Feels good, right!?!

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Sorry for my ignorance, but How do you "pre-heat"? Put the battery in pre-conditioning mode? Or turn on heat/defrost?

use the App to warm the interior of the car for 20 minutes or so...

 

[momo3605]

Folks, PLEASE also give your model YEAR as there were important changes to efficiency of the models beginning with the 2025's...

My current "lifetime" (first 700 miles in a '25 AGT -- all winter so far with temps in the 30's) stands at 3.82 mi/kWh. A combination of local and highway. Roughly 60% highway / 40% local.

Wow That's awesome! 2025 must have some amazing updates. I'm following your posts to see when you're able to hit EPA rated lifetime efficiency! I'm rooting for you! I think as the temps warm up, you should be able to get there. I believe EPA is about 4.3 miles/kw for 2025 GT?

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Wow That's awesome! 2025 must have some amazing updates. I'm following your posts to see when you're able to hit EPA rated lifetime efficiency! I'm rooting for you! I think as the temps warm up, you should be able to get there. I believe EPA is about 4.3 miles/kw for 2025 GT?

4.34 to be exact. Remember everyone, the '25 AGT got updated battery chemistry which boosted the pack's capacity by 5.4% (118kWh vs. 112 kWh). I would imagine that they just started using the same pack that the GT-Performance and Sapphire used since those were both 118 kWh packs in the same form factor. So between that, the heat pump and better thermal management folks with '25's definitely should be seeing better range numbers -- all else being equal.

 

[PaulC]

2023 AT/19" 25.2K miles with avg of 3.76 mi/kwh - 2/3 highway.
Now with 26 degree temp = 1.76 mi/kwh
Checked battery with annual service when mi/kwh dropped - AOK.
Engine with cold battery warning- will try preheating interior 20' before driving.

 

[Andretex]

Well, when you preheat at home you are using energy anyway. Not sure I agree with the concept of paying for Kw at home then thinking your car is more efficient. Cold weather is a negative for EVs.

 

[PaulC]

I DCFC at EA. Haven't used home charging for past year+.

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Well, when you preheat at home you are using energy anyway. Not sure I agree with the concept of paying for Kw at home then thinking your car is more efficient. Cold weather is a negative for EVs.

It is certainly better for the battery. Whether there is a net efficiency gain would have to be calculated, but if the humans in the car are more comfortable, the battery in better health AND the operating efficiency of the car on the road is better, I still personally think that it is an EXCELLENt practice.

 

[Lucken]

Well, when you preheat at home you are using energy anyway. Not sure I agree with the concept of paying for Kw at home then thinking your car is more efficient. Cold weather is a negative for EVs.

It’s a particularly good practice if you’re headed out on a long drive in the winter, where range may be critical. In that situation you may not care about how many home kWs you used since you want to maximize your battery’s kWs.

 

[Westcory]

Doubtful, Mine hasn’t changed much after a few thousand miles. Still have a lifetime average of 3.1 on my Air Touring

I mean my habits aren’t any different between all the EVs I have driven and all driven the same roads, climate, and traffic yet the Lucid is the only one missing the EPA rating by ~25%. If I’m constantly getting 285 miles of range out of 405 I’m going to be pretty sad.

I was rally curious if anyone has brought this up to the service department and got any fixes.

 

[momo3605]

I mean my habits aren’t any different between all the EVs I have driven and all driven the same roads, climate, and traffic yet the Lucid is the only one missing the EPA rating by ~25%. If I’m constantly getting 285 miles of range out of 405 I’m going to be pretty sad.

I was rally curious if anyone has brought this up to the service department and got any fixes.

yup, unfortunately that’s what you’re going to get. The Lucid is not efficient in daily city driving. Teslas…even the big boys Model S or even Model X is far more efficient just putting around town. (People will disagree with me, but it’s true lol). The Lucid motors are tuned for 65-70mph driving. If you take a long road trip and drive slow like that on cruise control you will see 4.0 miles/kw or better!

 

[Westcory]

yup, unfortunately that’s what you’re going to get. The Lucid is not efficient in daily city driving. Teslas…even the big boys Model S or even Model X is far more efficient just putting around town. (People will disagree with me, but it’s true lol). The Lucid motors are tuned for 65-70mph driving. If you take a long road trip and drive slow like that on cruise control you will see 4.0 miles/kw or better!

I guess you missed my original complaint. I just did a long roadtrip and it couldn’t crack 3.3 in almost perfect conditions. I’m less than 3.0 so far around town.

 

[momo3605]

I guess you missed my original complaint. I just did a long roadtrip and it couldn’t crack 3.3 in almost perfect conditions. I’m less than 3.0 so far around town.

Couple of clarifying questions in that case

1. Are you looking at since last charged or Trip A?
2. Did you reset trip A immediately after jumping on the freeway and settling into 70-75? Or are You including accelerating on to the freeway?
3. Did you gain any altitude overall for the trip?
4. Were you actually driving closer to 75/80? That would drop you down to mid 3s as well

 

[Adnillien]

Teslas…even the big boys Model S or even Model X is far more efficient just putting around town.

Please share some data to support this. Otherwise you are correct, we will disagree.