Porting Nuro autonomous technology to the DreamDrive Pro equipped Gravity & Air?

[Buffalo Bob]

Here are some questions for those of you with more depth of understanding than I... Assuming the Lucid/Uber/Nuro partnership bears fruit, do you think the hardware built into the current DDP-equipped Gravity will be sufficient, or will other hardware add-ons (including processors, memory, etc.) be needed for the 'Uber Gravity' to achieve Nuro Driver Level 4 autonomy? If the standard Gravity DDP technology is enough, or if it can be easily augmented, is it likely that Lucid will eventually shift to Nuro software and bring level 3 or 4 technology to the DDP-equipped Gravity owner base? If the answer to that last question is some degree of 'yes', then what are the relative possibilities for those of us with a DDP-equipped Air? Thanks!

 

[DrZorro]

From the press release photo, it looked like the Nuro car had sensor pack attached to the roof the Gravity giving it a sort of "Waymo" vibe. I don't think it's publicly known if it's also incorporating the built in cameras/lidar/radar etc--though it seems like a waste to not be augmenting the roof package with the car's on-board sensors. I'm pretty sure the software suite is Nuro's and who knows if it's something that could be adapted to run on the car's built in computer. They did say the Gravity's built in autonomy complements the Nuro setup (which I take to mean it already has the built in ability to be physically driven by a software suite in terms of throttle, braking, steering, etc).

 

[Lucidicrous]

Perplexity Question: Which has the best odds of having Level 4 autonomous vehicles: Lucid or Tesla?

Answer: Lucid, backed by Uber and Nuro, is most likely to have real Level 4 autonomous vehicles on the road, ahead of Tesla by 2026.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

From the press release photo, it looked like the Nuro car had sensor pack attached to the roof the Gravity giving it a sort of "Waymo" vibe. I don't think it's publicly known if it's also incorporating the built in cameras/lidar/radar etc--though it seems like a waste to not be augmenting the roof package with the car's on-board sensors. I'm pretty sure the software suite is Nuro's and who knows if it's something that could be adapted to run on the car's built in computer. They did say the Gravity's built in autonomy complements the Nuro setup (which I take to mean it already has the built in ability to be physically driven by a software suite in terms of throttle, braking, steering, etc).

Right or wrong, I viewed that roof package as similar to all of the bolted-on extras in the Waymo cars, which I think are necessary to support their extensive learning curve, but not needed beyond a Lucid-type lidar/radar/sensor suite once the cars are in regular day-to-day service.

 

[The_Don]

That roof package is Nuro's tech. Their business model is based on the fact that any car can readily become an AV with that roof package bolted on. It wouldn't make sense for them to start using car sensors, which vary widely by make and model. Also, any testing and/or data they get from developing AVs will be proprietary information that Lucid will not have access to. All this is to say that this partnership doesn't actually change anything for Lucid's in-house AV development timeline.

 

[NoseyReporter]

I think the more pertinent question is whether or not Lucid will be given the data from Nuro sensors and what the Nuro system decides based on the sensors.

IE run both sets of sensors in parallel, and compare.

I think even Tesla does this? I feel like I've seen photos of Teslas driving around with more advanced sensor packages presumably to compare what a high end sensor suite's "sees" relative to the data from a vision only sensor suite.