OTA Update 2.6.16

3. The stop and go function doesn't work 90% of the time with the error code saying that it does not recognize my face

Have you tried setting your face up again?

4. I've noticed several times it fails to recognize the car ahead while in adaptive cruise mode and thus fails to slow down, prompting my takeover.

I haven’t seen this, but curious to see if anyone else has.

These are minor annoyances, but still.*

*And a few disclaimers for the regular fan base: 1. Lucid is the greatest car/technology company. 2. Nobody ever promised that any updates will come within any specific time frame. 3. No competitor even comes close in terms of other features/characteristics of the Lucid Air. 4. The majority of fresh owners have never been through what the pioneer owners have, thus they don't have a right to complain. Did I forget anything?

There’s no need to be rude.
 
May be this i only my car.
Drove yesterday and today after update. There is an efficiency difference but it was opposite. My highway average used to be 3.5 and 3.8 before update and now its between 2.3 and 2.8 ☹️. There is a stretch of 25miles i regular drive which is non highway, my averages before update used to be between 4.2 and 4.8 after update its 4.0 and 4.3.
Not sure whats wrong, i am planing to do a hard reboot, charge and discharge battery, check and inflate tiers to recommended pressure and test again.
 
Have you tried setting your face up again?



I haven’t seen this, but curious to see if anyone else has.



There’s no need to be rude.
Have you tried setting your face up again?
- I've never set my face ID up. Is it required for stop and go function? That would be strange...

There’s no need to be rude.
- Not trying to be rude (sorry if it comes across like that), just sarcastic. I think most of the people here would understand why...
 
Just finished a 392 mile trek down I-81, I've noted tangible efficiency improvements with this update. Last time I did this drive I struggled to break 4.4 mi/kw, this time I hit 4.45 mi/kw despite absolutely ripping thru some of the more fun back roads. Not going to say this was a problem-free update, but there some serious improvements buried in this update.
I tested the efficiency on the new update today on my once a month 100 mile trek. Before the update, I used to get 3.1-2. Today, I got 3.31 with the temp over 100 and AC cranking the entire drive unlike the other days when the temp was 70-80. I like!
 
Also noticing the stop mode is greed out. So it doesn't hold when stopped. You will roll.
 
Also noticing the stop mode is greed out. So it doesn't hold when stopped. You will roll.
You should be able to change it hold once the car is parked. That setting can’t be changed while in drive I believe.
 
You should be able to change it hold once the car is parked. That setting can’t be changed while in drive I believe.
Nailed it THANKS. kind of annoying that these settings are randomly changed with an update. Thanks for the tip.
 
Nailed it THANKS. kind of annoying that these settings are randomly changed with an update. Thanks for the tip.
I think not being able to change the roll settings while in drive was always the case. It was not changed by the update.
 
I think not being able to change the roll settings while in drive was always the case. It was not changed by the update.
You are not understanding. The update changed the settings. I already had stop hold turned on. The update turned it off without notification. I find out about it when I'm being honked at from the person behind me because my car is unexpectedly rolling backwards almost causing an accident. Not cool at all.
 
So, a question for you software development experts... What consistently amazes me is how often these post-OTA-update glitches only seem to affect some cars. I would get it if a particular glitch affected all of a particular year, make, model and option set, but that seldom seems the case. I suppose that a conflict caused by a particular combination of option selections could be the problem, but that's even harder for me to fathom. I wonder why, after all the updates I've done, I have had only one minor glitch (the home screen would not 'stick'), and I got the impression that was a pervasive one. My lack of glitches can't be a question of luck, right, but then what is it?
 
Drive assist is definitely improved with this update, particularly in how much better lane change assist is. It still needs a lot of work though. On my 1 hour drive yesterday, it shut off a few times mid turn and had random instances where it would steer out of the lane I was in. This is absolutely not something I would trust to handle anything except straightline driving without my full attention.
 
My experience matches victoryroad in that the front motor whine is completely - gone! The one negative I've experienced is that lane centering has become very abrupt and aggressive, especially when I'm approaching a left or right-turn lane before the dots on the lane appear. After that, the car is smart enough to know which lane is appropriate. I'm now using both hands on the steering wheel (probably not a bad idea BTW) so the sudden jerk of the wheel doesn't surprise me or cause something unintended. If Lucid can smooth out that issue, it would be perfect. I've not heard it enough, but thanks to Bobby for all the historical information on the OTA updates. If you peruse the history, the software has come a long way.
Thanks for the mention, but the motor whine is not gone. As I said, it seems less than pre-OTA, but maybe that is wishful thinking. Maybe Lucid has some decibel readings pre and post in a controlled test. Range has improved, and DA is confidence-inspiring, although I always kept two hands on the wheel. As mentioned, when passing a large tractor-trailer in moderate rain, my car's speed slowed a bit as the water seemed to interrupt the front view for spacing. As soon as I was in front of the truck, the car resumed my set speed.
 
Thanks for the mention, but the motor whine is not gone. As I said, it seems less than pre-OTA, but maybe that is wishful thinking. Maybe Lucid has some decibel readings pre and post in a controlled test. Range has improved, and DA is confidence-inspiring, although I always kept two hands on the wheel. As mentioned, when passing a large tractor-trailer in moderate rain, my car's speed slowed a bit as the water seemed to interrupt the front view for spacing. As soon as I was in front of the truck, the car resumed my set speed.
My observation is that its better/quieter at certain speeds and driving conditions. Haven't quite worked out what those are yet, but there times where I definitely don't hear the whine when I did before.
 
Have you tried setting your face up again?
- I've never set my face ID up. Is it required for stop and go function? That would be strange...

There’s no need to be rude.
- Not trying to be rude (sorry if it comes across like that), just sarcastic. I think most of the people here would understand why...
I think face ID is required to set up your profile.
 
I think face ID is required to set up your profile.
You don’t need Face ID to set up the profile. It apparently is not required for stop and go function of the drive assist. The “can’t recognize your face” error is likely a new bug introduced by the update.
 
So, a question for you software development experts... What consistently amazes me is how often these post-OTA-update glitches only seem to affect some cars. I would get it if a particular glitch affected all of a particular year, make, model and option set, but that seldom seems the case. I suppose that a conflict caused by a particular combination of option selections could be the problem, but that's even harder for me to fathom. I wonder why, after all the updates I've done, I have had only one minor glitch (the home screen would not 'stick'), and I got the impression that was a pervasive one. My lack of glitches can't be a question of luck, right, but then what is it?
The frequent advice to restart the car signals to me caches are not clearing entirely during updates.
 
So, a question for you software development experts... What consistently amazes me is how often these post-OTA-update glitches only seem to affect some cars. I would get it if a particular glitch affected all of a particular year, make, model and option set, but that seldom seems the case. I suppose that a conflict caused by a particular combination of option selections could be the problem, but that's even harder for me to fathom. I wonder why, after all the updates I've done, I have had only one minor glitch (the home screen would not 'stick'), and I got the impression that was a pervasive one. My lack of glitches can't be a question of luck, right, but then what is it?
Could be any number of things:
- Different parts, even within the same model year and trim. Even iPhones do this because they may not be able to source the number of some component they need from one vendor, and another vendor's part might be "close enough." Or in Lucid's case, maybe they ran out of stock of some part that's been discontinued and had to find a replacement. But it does create unexpected divides like this.
- Different settings, like you said. That's a very real and common problem. Each setting exponentially increases the number of combinations to test, so without very rigorous testing processes you will miss some strange and unexpected incompatibilities. Even things that don't seem like they should be in any way related, like say, one person is using built-in Spotify and that causes resource contention (memory usage, network usage, whatever) that changes the timing of some different process.
- Different history. Maybe you have a bunch of nav history that I don't and something going through that list breaks a new update. Ditto with shared contacts from your phone, call history, charging plan enrollment, WiFi networks, anything else that may change over time and varies person to person.
- Different environment. Maybe some component gets a little too hot and behaves differently in 100º weather? Maybe rough roads loosened some cable, not enough to break something completely, but bad enough that something fails 10% of the time, and the previous update didn't use that connection heavily enough for anybody to notice?
Software QA is hard.
 
I concur with what others have mentioned here:

- It's more efficient. By how much it's hard to say, but I would say an observed 5 - 10% over 250 miles or so. Significant.
- The blind spot cameras have better framerate.
- The front motor whine is a bit attenuated (but still present).
- Drive Assist seems to me smoother and I don't think it slows down so abruptly in bends anymore.

And what's most important, it didn't introduce any new bugs - which is highly unusual. This is the most meaningful update so far, at least for me.

If they could fix that god damn soft close and sort out the keyless entry, I would consider another Air when my lease is up.
 
Updated remotely while I was out of the country. Now I’m back. Had a display go blank, but did the hard reset. No issues since. Going to do a 250 mile jaunt tomorrow down and back to Scottsdale. Want to test what I think are good improvements. Will report back.
Made the drive twice, both Sunday and Monday (today). DD features as advertised and much appreciated. I also thought the front motor whine at 70 mph was reduced. When I increased to “more fun” speeds, not so much. Better mileage, maybe? Heat, speed, hills and traffic makes it hard to tell. Best tested on oval track. No more software issues or complaints. Overall, great job Lucid!
 
Could be any number of things:
- Different parts, even within the same model year and trim. Even iPhones do this because they may not be able to source the number of some component they need from one vendor, and another vendor's part might be "close enough." Or in Lucid's case, maybe they ran out of stock of some part that's been discontinued and had to find a replacement. But it does create unexpected divides like this.
- Different settings, like you said. That's a very real and common problem. Each setting exponentially increases the number of combinations to test, so without very rigorous testing processes you will miss some strange and unexpected incompatibilities. Even things that don't seem like they should be in any way related, like say, one person is using built-in Spotify and that causes resource contention (memory usage, network usage, whatever) that changes the timing of some different process.
- Different history. Maybe you have a bunch of nav history that I don't and something going through that list breaks a new update. Ditto with shared contacts from your phone, call history, charging plan enrollment, WiFi networks, anything else that may change over time and varies person to person.
- Different environment. Maybe some component gets a little too hot and behaves differently in 100º weather? Maybe rough roads loosened some cable, not enough to break something completely, but bad enough that something fails 10% of the time, and the previous update didn't use that connection heavily enough for anybody to notice?
Software QA is hard.

Thanks! Very helpful information, and much appreciated!
 
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