Okay, I still choose the Air, but…

[AirQuality]

Okay, we're about to drive @borski nuts, but . . .

MPV is the abbreviation for "multi-purpose vehicle". Those multi purposes are quite obviously "sport" and "utility", i. e., SUV.

See how easy that was?

I’m going to agree with you only because I don’t want my ancestors banned from this forum

 

[LuvLucy]

"Mommy, why can't I login to the Lucid Owners forum?"

"Son, we don't talk about that in our family... it seems Grandpa did a very bad thing when he was younger and said borski drives a minivan"

 

[hmp10]

In all seriousness, I think yesterday's "Autopian" review of the Gravity said it best when it comes to landing the SUV vs. minivan debate:

"The truth is that as SUVs have grown in market prominence, they have become so diverse that the term doesn't really have any meaning anymore. Is a Hyundai Ionic 5 an SUV? Or a hatchback? What about a Toyota Crown Signia. It's really just an overused marketing term. That said, the Lucid Gravity is a vehicle with a tremendous amount of utility and immense sporting capability. So let's just set aside the taxonomy."

 

[DeaneG]

The Lucid Gravity Luxury SUV Is ‘Tesla Done Right’

A 450-mile range, prodigious space, 200 miles added in 11 minutes, and zero to 60 mph in 3.4 seconds—this seven-seater is one hell of an SUV, even if it looks like a minivan.

www.wired.com

 

[bbargfr2]

Thank you @borski and @TribbleTrouble for all of your valuable insights! They are very appreciated. First time poster here... We're considering a Gravity, but have some carseat considerations. Would you mind measuring the width of the bench (#1) and the width of the center seat (#2)? The Rivian R1S has such a narrow middle seat that it makes 3rd row access very difficult with 2 car seats in the second row. It was one deal breaker for us in not going that direction, and the Gravity seems to have just about all the other boxes checked we're looking for.

 

[kopik]

The respective rear zones. Left follows rear left, right follows rear right.

Sorry, this is not a direct reply to your message. But I found this reference on the FB Lucid owner group. Looks like this picture was seen on one of the threads

 

[HC_79]

Unless they got approval, seems someone just scraped the forum and made an article out of it. Hope your wife doesn’t mind her photo being used elsewhere along with all her comments @borski

I Just Bought One of The First Lucid Gravity SUVs, Tesla and Rivian Are About to Face Their Toughest Competition Yet

The new Lucid Gravity is officially in the hands of owners. Starting at $79,900, it enters the market as a serious challenger to the Rivian R1S and Tesla Model X.

www.torquenews.com

 

[borski]

Unless they got approval, seems someone just scraped the forum and made an article out of it. Hope your wife doesn’t mind her photo being used elsewhere along with all her comments @borski

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I Just Bought One of The First Lucid Gravity SUVs, Tesla and Rivian Are About to Face Their Toughest Competition Yet

The new Lucid Gravity is officially in the hands of owners. Starting at $79,900, it enters the market as a serious challenger to the Rivian R1S and Tesla Model X.

www.torquenews.com

“I would have worn makeup!” - @TribbleTrouble

 

[TribbleTrouble]

Thank you @borski and @TribbleTrouble for all of your valuable insights! They are very appreciated. First time poster here... We're considering a Gravity, but have some carseat considerations. Would you mind measuring the width of the bench (#1) and the width of the center seat (#2)? The Rivian R1S has such a narrow middle seat that it makes 3rd row access very difficult with 2 car seats in the second row. It was one deal breaker for us in not going that direction, and the Gravity seems to have just about all the other boxes checked we're looking for.
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Hi! Okay, #1 is 52", and #2 is 13". I hope that's helpful!

 

[bbargfr2]

Hi! Okay, #1 is 52", and #2 is 13". I hope that's helpful!
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Extremely helpful, thank you!

 

[boydracing]

Feels like I have had something stolen from me/us... Okay, I sad it - but I don't feel bad.

 

[borski]

Feels like I have had something stolen from me/us... Okay, I sad it - but I don't feel bad.

It was cute to see @TribbleTrouble's face red all day, hehe - I'm usually the guy doing PR and things (from when I ran my last company / cybersecurity), so I'm no stranger to it, but @TribbleTrouble is new to having her face texted to her by random people going "YOU'RE FAMOUS!" haha

 

[boydracing]

It was cute to see @TribbleTrouble's face red all day, hehe - I'm usually the guy doing PR and things (from when I ran my last company / cybersecurity), so I'm no stranger to it, but @TribbleTrouble is new to having her face texted to her by random people going "YOU'RE FAMOUS!" haha

Journalism is that...
sheepdog mode: off

 

[borski]

(To be clear, not that this is PR, lol; I mean interviews, not random quotes pulled from random things I write on the internet. )

 

[TahoeMichael]

Borksi or Tribbletrouble, does your Gravity have the towing package? If so, I'm curious which kind of electrical plug for trailers the Gravity has.

 

[borski]

Borksi or Tribbletrouble, does your Gravity have the towing package? If so, I'm curious which kind of electrical plug for trailers the Gravity has.

It does. I have no idea. How would someone who knows nothing about towing find that out?

 

[Adnillien]

It does. I have no idea. How would someone who knows nothing about towing find that out?

Just take a picture of the plug.

 

[TahoeMichael]

It does. I have no idea. How would someone who knows nothing about towing find that out?

As Adnillien says, a picture would be great. But there are only two likely answers: a compact 4 pin flat plug with the pins inline, or a larger round plug with 7 pins. The 4 pin connector just powers exterior running lights on the trailer, including being able to turn on braking and turn signal indicators. The 7 pin offers a lot more, but has the potential to drain the Gravity's battery, as some trailers might try to charge their internal batteries from the tow vehicle. Pickup trucks often have both connectors, to avoid needing to carry a 7 to 4 pin adapter.

 

[Murcie]

I test drove the Gravity for the first time today and completely related to @borski —I loved it, but for some reason, I still prefer the Air. I’m really looking forward to seeing the refreshed Air, especially with improvements inspired by the Gravity. I just hope they don’t change the design too much—it’s still a very attractive car and continues to turn heads, even as it becomes more common

 

[hmp10]

I've been driving an Air Dream Performance on 21" Pirelli summer tires for over three years and have been mightily impressed with its handling. But something weird happened last night.

We were heading home from a late evening with friends with almost no traffic. There is a large intersection of two eight-lane roads where I usually make a wide sweeping right-hand turn that I like to take at real speed if no one is around. But the crown of the road I'm turning onto banks against the direction of the turn instead of into it, so it really puts the car's chassis through its paces.

Last night we were in the Gravity Dream on the 21/22" Michelin all-season tires. I was astonished to find that on that turn the Gravity -- despite its greater weight and higher stance -- actually stayed flatter and turned in more crisply than the Air, glued to the pavement like a fly stuck to flypaper. Credit the rear-wheel steering in part and the Gravity's air suspension leveling. It brought back to mind Kyle Conner's and Jason Cammisa's comments on the Gravity's handling back in January when Conner told David Lickfold that he thought the Gravity out-handled the Air, and Cammisa said the Gravity threatened to make sports cars obsolete. I can only imagine what our Gravity Dream on the 22/23" wheels and phenomenal new PZ5's will be like.

Something else I have noticed as we build more time in the Gravity. The speeds at which I start to notice that my speed has built more than I intended seem to be around 10mph faster than when the same sensation sets in with the Air. Between the higher ride height and the quieter cabin, the Gravity can put you into unintended territory very easily if you're not paying attention.

I'm beginning to see a glimmer of suspicion that, once our second Gravity Dream arrives and all the kinks get worked out of both of them, we might start wondering what's the point of keeping the Air although that has long been our intent. The only thing that might stay our hand is the desire to keep a third car on hand for when family visits or a car is in the shop with no loaner available.

While I still think the Air sports the most visually fetching front end of any car on the road today, I actually like the rear countenance of the Gravity better. And with Superchargers seeming to work flawlessly with our Gravity, the loss of range compared to the Air is really of no consequence.