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New Lucid owner here—just picked up my Air Touring a few weeks ago and absolutely loving the drive so far. This is my first EV, so I’m still getting familiar with all the charging nuances.

A few quick questions I’m hoping to get input on:


1. Home charging: I’m installing a Level 2 charger at home—any strong recommendations between the ChargePoint Home Flex vs. Emporia vs. Wallbox? I’m leaning toward ChargePoint for the network but open to feedback.


2. Public fast charging: I’ve used a few Electrify America stations, and it’s been hit-or-miss. Any tips on finding more consistent stations or dealing with EA bugs?


3. Charging curve: I’ve read about the Lucid’s fast charging curve being excellent, but mine doesn’t seem to stay at peak kW for long. Could this be weather-related, or should I be looking into software updates or battery conditioning?

I’ve searched through a few threads but figured I’d post since tech is always evolving and every setup is different. Thanks in advance for any help—and I’m excited to be part of the Lucid community!
 
Afford said:
New Lucid owner here—just picked up my Air Touring a few weeks ago and absolutely loving the drive so far. This is my first EV, so I’m still getting familiar with all the charging nuances.

A few quick questions I’m hoping to get input on:


1. Home charging: I’m installing a Level 2 charger at home—any strong recommendations between the ChargePoint Home Flex vs. Emporia vs. Wallbox? I’m leaning toward ChargePoint for the network but open to feedback.
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What network are you talking about? Home network? Commercial network does not show your ChargePoint Home Flex (Tesla commercial network can show your home Tesla charger if it's a "Destination Charger".

All of the above don't charge at 80A on a 100A breaker, unlike Lucid. They are rated at a maximum of 40A on a 50A breaker.

Please note that you should not use their scheduled timers, as this may interfere with Lucid's own timer.

I notice that you got a 2021 Tesla Model 3: why not use the same one that you are using now?


Afford said:
2. Public fast charging: I’ve used a few Electrify America stations, and it’s been hit-or-miss. Any tips on finding more consistent stations or dealing with EA bugs?
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If you go on a road trip (I drove from CA to the East Coast and back), you are at the mercy of luck. Not much you can do but report the bugs.

Afford said:
3. Charging curve: I’ve read about the Lucid’s fast charging curve being excellent, but mine doesn’t seem to stay at peak kW for long. Could this be weather-related, or should I be looking into software updates or battery conditioning?
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Yes, to pre-conditioning the battery ahead.
 
One question - you say "This is my first EV" but in your user profile you say you have a Model 3. Which is it? As for subtleties of DC charging curve i suggest you look at videos on the State of Charge youtube channel. Tom knows his stuff, is highly respected and on first name basis with execs at many companies, including Lucid.
 
1. I have a Chargepoint HomeFlex. It is a nice charger, but after owning it for 3-1/2 years, I've found I never use any of the advanced features. My unit did die a couple weeks out of warranty, and CP replaced it free of charge. If I had it to do over again, I would get a simpler, cheaper charger from a reputable manufacturer.
 
With regard to the home charger, depending on which state you are in, you may be able to get a rebate if you purchase “approved chargers”. Note that the Lucid charger is not approved for a rebate in the several states I checked.

For tips on public chargers, I have found Plug Share and ABRP (A better route planner) to be helpful apps to find the status of chargers at a specific location — whether they are operable or occupied While they sometimes aren’t completely accurate, they are generally helpful.

Also, I use the EA app to give me the status of their chargers and they have been very accurate.
 
Afford said:
1. Home charging: I’m installing a Level 2 charger at home—any strong recommendations between the ChargePoint Home Flex vs. Emporia vs. Wallbox? I’m leaning toward ChargePoint for the network but open to feedback.
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I have a ChargePoint Flex Charger and I really like it. It has worked well for over 6 years, but any of those you list would work. I do recommend having it hardwired on a 60 amp circuit to run at 48amps.
 
I do recommend the Lucid Connected Home Charger. It charges my Lucid at 18kW and my wife's GV60 at 11 kW.
 
I like Wallbox Pulsar Plus due to their extra features, like power limiting based on the current in the panel, etc.

I also have the LCHCS which works great for charging fast when I forget to plug in overnight (which happens more than I’d like to admit)
 
Okay, I’ve had an electrician out to our house to design an installation plan for a home charger for our new Gravity. The garage is a great distance from the main electrical box/meter with the power company so running a direct connection with it would be prohibitively expensive (there is a lot of house and driveway and elevation between it and the garage). The panels in our utility room are also maxed out. So they’ve devised a code acceptable plan to add another panel and run a new line from the new panel to the garage and power the new panel with a jumper from one of the old panels. However, due to power limitations to the existing panels they can only install a 50 amp breaker for the new line going to the charger. My question is, simply, does it make sense to get a LCHCS if it is going to be limited to a 50 amp line, or is there a better charger choice and if so which one? Thanks in advance.
 
TomUH said:
...My question is, simply, does it make sense to get a LCHCS if it is going to be limited to a 50 amp line, or is there a better charger choice and if so which one? Thanks in advance.
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I'd just go with one of the popular cloud-connected EV charging stations. It'll be less expensive and more convenient to use.
The only reason for the LCHCS is if you are getting it for free, or if you are wiling to wait for future V2H capability at an unknown point in the future and are willing to spend more to achieve that.

Hardwire a ChargePoint Home Flex or Wallbox Pulsar Plus.
If you have a Tesla Solar home, then Tesla's Wall Connector.
If you have an Enphase solar home, then Enphase's IQ 2 charging station.
 
TomUH said:
Okay, I’ve had an electrician out to our house to design an installation plan for a home charger for our new Gravity. The garage is a great distance from the main electrical box/meter with the power company so running a direct connection with it would be prohibitively expensive (there is a lot of house and driveway and elevation between it and the garage). The panels in our utility room are also maxed out. So they’ve devised a code acceptable plan to add another panel and run a new line from the new panel to the garage and power the new panel with a jumper from one of the old panels. However, due to power limitations to the existing panels they can only install a 50 amp breaker for the new line going to the charger. My question is, simply, does it make sense to get a LCHCS if it is going to be limited to a 50 amp line, or is there a better charger choice and if so which one? Thanks in advance.
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I Macgyvered a 50A breaker, stapled 30ft of romex to the drywall haphazardly, ran it down the way, and put it in a surface mount NEMA box I got at Home Depot 😂

I really should have an electrician redo it one of these years
 
socktucker said:
I Macgyvered a 50A breaker, stapled 30ft of romex to the drywall haphazardly, ran it down the way, and put it in a surface mount NEMA box I got at Home Depot 😂

I really should have an electrician redo it one of these years
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You should check if that NEMA 14-50 Receptacle to be sure it's an EV-rated version. If it cost less than $50, it's probably not. Lots of threads on here about the difference.
 
johnse said:
You should check if that NEMA 14-50 Receptacle to be sure it's an EV-rated version. If it cost less than $50, it's probably not. Lots of threads on here about the difference.
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I’ve had it for 3 years now, so it must be. To my credit my buddy is an electrical engineer and I sent him my list and he approved. The installation is something only a mother could love tho.
 
socktucker said:
I’ve had it for 3 years now, so it must be. To my credit my buddy is an electrical engineer and I sent him my list and he approved.
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With all respect to your buddy, an electrical engineer is not the same as a licensed electrician. And even many electricians are poorly informed about continuous high-current applications.

That may just mean that you are 3 years closer to it dying in a fire.

This from an excellent post starting a great thread
DeaneG said:
If you must use a 14-50 outlet, it should be an industrial-type receptacle made by Hubbell, Bryant, or Cooper. Leviton's $9 14-50 outlet from Home Depot can be a fire hazard when used for charging an EV. To see what kind of receptacle your electrician installed, turn off the circuit breaker to the outlet and remove the outlet's cover plate. The receptacle manufacturer name will be clearly stamped on the metal plate that supports the receptacle.
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johnse said:
With all respect to your buddy, an electrical engineer is not the same as a licensed electrician. And even many electricians are poorly informed about continuous high-current applications.

That may just mean that you are 3 years closer to it dying in a fire.

This from an excellent post starting a great thread
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He was an electrician before he was an engineer
 
socktucker said:
He was an electrician before he was an engineer
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Just post a picture of it with the faceplate off. It’s trivial to tell, but if you have the cheap Leviton dryer outlet, it is literally only a matter of time before you have a very bad time, and you’ve literally just been lucky for 3 years.

But up to you.
 
socktucker said:
I’ve had it for 3 years now, so it must be. To my credit my buddy is an electrical engineer and I sent him my list and he approved. The installation is something only a mother could love tho.
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Measure the diameter of the receptacle. If it's about 2.1 inches, it is definitely a fire hazard when used to charge an EV. The correctly rated receptacle is about 2.44 inches in diameter.
 
I’m coming from the Tesla world to the Lucid universe. I’ve had the Tesla home wall connector for years. I just added the Tesla universal connector and am very pleased with it. Comes native with both charging adapters so it connects seamlessly to either Air or Gravity. Also load shares so I have the universal and my old connector on the same 60amp circuit. Works great.
 
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