National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Standards and Requirements: encouraging

[DeaneG]

For those interested in the details, the final ruling on minimum standards for NEVI-funded charging stations. It's encouraging.

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[sansonoma]

For those interested in the details, the final ruling on minimum standards for NEVI-funded charging stations. It's encouraging.

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The question now is who will be responsible to enforce these standards, and will they?

 

[EVCar]

Also, what’s considered “minimum power level?”
> O kW?

 

[DeaneG]

Also, what’s considered “minimum power level?”
> O kW?

In general, the rules are asking for 150kW and 1000v operation for DCFC.

 

[HC_79]

In general, the rules are asking for 150kW and 1000v operation for DCFC.

If the requirement is 1000v then we're home free! Unless a different deal has been struck with Tesla then it makes sense about why they said "building" chargers and opening by the end of 2024. The V4 chargers are 1000v so I'm assuming that these could be the chargers receiving the funding from the government and why the opening is 18+ months away.

For example, Tesla is opening the worlds largest Supercharger location of 164 stalls in Coalinga, CA in late 2024, coincidence? probably not. 50% of those chargers will be CCS. I'm guessing these are going to be the V4/1000v chargers then. Fingers crossed!!

The next hurdle will be convincing Lucid to do Plug n Charge with Tesla (baby steps)

 

[xponents]

We need a pif electricity station. This would also give saudis money as electricity ramps up.

 

[HC_79]

We need a pif electricity station. This would also give saudis money as electricity ramps up.

Ha! I was thinking this the other week when the buyout rumors started. They basically hold the world to ransom over oil now. Cars need to be charged, they have money to burn. Could you imagine them building the largest charging network in the US or world and then have the revenue monopoly on that also .

 

[idiot900]

Is vandalism defined for the purpose of that rule? I suspect there will be an entirely unanticipated uptick in "vandalism", completely unrelated to the 97% requirement.

 

[Adnillien]

The next hurdle will be convincing Lucid to do Plug n Charge with Tesla (baby steps)

It is in the requirements - "The FHWA establishes interoperability requirements through this final rule for charger-to-EV communication, charger-to-charger network communication, and charging network-to-charging network communication to ensure that chargers are capable of the communication necessary to perform smart charge management and Plug and Charge. "

It further clarifies "The FHWA agrees that “Plug and Charge” was intended to correlate to ISO 15118. The definition has been modified in this final rule to incorporate specific reference to utilization of ISO 15118 and digital certificates for authentication."

 

[EVCar]

I admit that I'm really not up to date on this topic so I have to ask: have there been discussions about the supply side, i.e., how are we going to generate adequate electricity for all these thousands of chargers?
Additionally, I also remember reading about issues related to the security of the existing grids.
I guess I'm just a worrier.

 

[Lucken]

I admit that I'm really not up to date on this topic so I have to ask: have there been discussions about the supply side, i.e., how are we going to generate adequate electricity for all these thousands of chargers?
Additionally, I also remember reading about issues related to the security of the existing grids.
I guess I'm just a worrier.

I honestly don’t think some of these things have been thought through. California already goes through periods of rolling blackouts in some areas.

 

[hydbob]

I honestly don’t think some of these things have been thought through. California already goes through periods of rolling blackouts in some areas.

Which have nothing to do with EV charging...

 

[Lucken]

Which have nothing to do with EV charging...

Yes, but it does have something to do with the energy infrastructure which is what the poster I was responding to was discussing.

 

[borski]

I honestly don’t think some of these things have been thought through. California already goes through periods of rolling blackouts in some areas.

They have, at least somewhat. The infrastructure bill includes significant investment in renewable energy *as well as* EV charging infrastructure.