Miles/Kwh

‘25 Air Touring here with 19” wheels. Got it in February (unusually cold one), 4,100 miles, mostly commute to work. I am now at 3.79 miles per kWh since zero, and has kept improving over time. The heat does not appear to affect range and efficiency as much as the cold. Glass roof (with OEM sunshades). Tint, 35% front, 20% rear and back, nothing on windshield
 
I’m in awe of the mileage people re getting. GT with 21 inch wheels here, have never gotten over 2.95m/kwh.. regularly in the 2.5 range at best with careful driving. are you people just driving straight downhill all day? 😅
They're driving downhill both ways lol!
 
This is my best 30 mile trip to work thus far in my 2025 Air Touring w/20" wheels.
Average is a bit over 3 mi/kwh.

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Was it a 30 or 40 percent grade lol!? Wow! I would only see this number in my dreams. I too have a Touring with 20" wheels. My lifetime numbers are higher - 3.43 which jumped to 3.60 with the latest OTAs.
 
Do you use the ACC? I use mine almost exclusively when on the interstate, even in Las Vegas, like on the beltway. I like the peace of mind that ACC affords while still keeping alert.
I use Drive Assist...
 
I’m in awe of the mileage people re getting. GT with 21 inch wheels here, have never gotten over 2.95m/kwh.. regularly in the 2.5 range at best with careful driving. are you people just driving straight downhill all day? 😅
What year GT do you have?
 
BTW, I misspoke earlier...I still had in my head my Gravity order wheel size. My AGT has 19's on it!!
 
Sounds to me like many of you are doing it wrong.

I got about 2.5 mi/kWh on a recent out and return to Montpelier VT from Philadelphia, at night, across the Green Mountains (up on US 87, back on US 91: ~900 mi.). Mostly the interstates were empty ( wee hours), so I was going pretty fast...perhaps triple digits were tested: for science.

The other night I was feeling antsy so got up at 4 AM and drove the PA turnpike out to Bedford PA (Sheetz right off the exit with windshield cleaning station...a great stop! Recommended. Also Carlisle Sheetz is a mile or so off the exit but again very nice place to stop also with windshield cleaning station) and back.

I got 3.09 mi/kWh on the downhill return run ( triple digits velocity on empty sections just to collect data: for science. ). I love these 21" Pirellis...but they are soft...probably last the rest of this season (may get 17k miles) but I'm thinking forged wheels (Dream Edition) for the next set. Cold tire pressure is 44 psi. Surprised to see TPMS reading only 47 psi "hot" (while running). I too check the TPMS against other pressure gauges and found them in agreement).
Was misty foggy 100% humidity = was thinking how much an IC engine would like this weather = water injection!


So all this bragging about high mi/kWh after going 30 mi downhill... what's your "worst" mi/kWh ? ('22 Air GT w/ P-Zero 21" summer)

I'm claiming ~ 2.50 mi/kWh for 21" summer Pirellis @ 44 psi cold over ~ 900 mi. at 80-90 degress F. Beat that. (average speeds legal for parts of the Autobahn).

I was harsh on VT for deceptive charger map. Looks like good coverage if you don't mind camping behind the town's municipal building for a few days to get a 20% charge on a level 1 with a lamp-cord "cable". I found two public fast DC chargers in Vermont ( Rutland and White River Junction Wall Marts). Yes I know the map shows lots of chargers, but they are nearly all level 1 (phone chargers = useless for the Air) and private (you need to enroll at the college or join the Vermont Tupperware Club to access a 7kW charger!), or at a dealership (locked).

Looking at PA charger map I see they are along the PA Turnpike and concentrated around Pittsburgh and Philly. Not much if you venture off into the countryside. So yes, same as Vermont. Yes I am still on free EA charging so there's that.

I must say: rolling in below 10% SOC, plugging-in without a card or a fuss, then leaving after 12 minutes ... (last in/first out) love the sideways glances others give when I leave so quickly. I've learned to say, " ...ahh....300 miles, I guess that's enough" so everyone can hear. I can't remember seeing another Lucid on these trips ... maybe once, but never at a charger. Still extremely rare on the right coast.

I'm still getting, "What car is this?"
"Lucid"
"...but who makes it?"
"Lucid"
"... ? Lexus ? "
"It's Lucid, a Saudia Arabian company that builds cars in Arizona"
??????

"So how far will it go on a charge?"

" I have no idea. How far can you drive without peeing ?

I'm trying to imagine going over 500 miles in my Air without stopping to pee. That would be 500 miles/hour.
Some questions are too dumb for an honest reply.
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no, I did not spend an hour charging... just enough to get me home. An EA charger. ^
and one of the new Universal (tesla too) chargers at the New Jersey Turnpike fuel stops (not all have this yet). Note 1000 volts and 500 amps!
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I did not use pre-conditioning as I was low SOC. Temps 80 - 90 F.
 
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Why would you not pre-condition at a low SOC?
Because no need, eats a bit of range when preconditioning and driving fast (imo) heats the battery up and gets it ready to charge enough. (My own anecdotal experience).
 
Not saying either is wrong, just people are over thinking it. I'm not sure if you're really exercising the car that preconditioning will cost any range. Especially when compared to the range lost by the driving style.

An argument could be made that undwr certain operations preconditioning might increase range. If less battery cooling is be used allowing the battery to warm more than normal battery.
 
I was harsh on VT for deceptive charger map. Looks like good coverage if you don't mind camping behind the town's municipal building for a few days to get a 20% charge on a level 1 with a lamp-cord "cable". I found two public fast DC chargers in Vermont ( Rutland and White River Junction Wall Marts). Yes I know the map shows lots of chargers, but they are nearly all level 1 (phone chargers = useless for the Air) and private (you need to enroll at the college or join the Vermont Tupperware Club to access a 7kW charger!), or at a dealership (locked).

Filter your seach on PlugShare to stations over 150kw. I see 10 in Vermont, 4 in NH that are within 5 miles of Vermont , and 2 in NY within 10 miles of Vermont. For a small state, geographically and by population I'd say they have more DCFC than most.

Now can you just drive with no planning? No. But fast chargers are distributed around the state. I have never had a problem finding a decent station driving there during the last two winters. I drive everywhere from Killington, Montpelier, Burlington, and into Canada but mostly in and around Waitsfield.
 
Once the Air gets Tesla access, it adds a few more locations in that area. They may be limited to 50kW for the Air, but better than L1 & L2. Gravity will be able to use them at full speed.
 
Tesla adds 7 in Vermont so yes an increase but 50kw. So more choice but with 10 CCS stations 150kw or great, the 7 Tesla (I did not check which version they are) at 50kw for the Air don't really move the needle.
 
I’ve owned (and driven the heck out of) Ferraris, so I am no stranger to driving cars very aggressively. For whatever reason my AGT does not “speak to me” that way. Do I accelerate hard from time to time? Drive 90 mph on the highway sometimes? Yes. BUT, I find myself just enjoying the ride and cruising at 70-75 mph far more pleasant these days and there has never been a better car to do just that than my Air (at least that I have experienced). Massage seats going, great tunes playing, wife happy and comfortable (she hates when I drive aggressively). Life is good. The amazing thing about the Air is that it can do Ferrari speed and performance AND cruise like no other!!!

BTW, over a 900 mile round trip to Ohio (99% highway mileage) with the air on 75 degrees (90+ outside), Drive Assist set at 72 mph, we averaged 4.35 mi/kWh for the round trip. So, to those of you who doubt the EPA rating on the 2025 AGT? You 100% can achieve it!!!

We also celebrated Blue Lectroid’s 6k Birthday!!
 

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So, I'm a couple of weeks into my ownership (AT) and am trying to get a decent understanding of what my expectations should be with regard to M/Kwh. For background, I'm just north of NYC, so the last couple of weeks have been high 30s or low 40s in the AM and highs, generally in the 50s. Also, the car is parked outside, not garaged. Morning drives seem to be just north of 3 miles/Kwh, afternoons somewhat better. Honestly, not as good as I thought it would be. Just wondering...Is this typical and expected? And...does it get better as the tires and motor "break in"?

I believe the EPA estimates are closer to 4.5, which I'm guessing is more ideal conditions.

So...in general, would love to hear about peoples experience in weather that's similar to mine and looking ahead, how that changes in the summer and dead of winter. Thanks everyone!
I'm not saying I get this all the time - and I have been known to step on it just to remember why I bought this car. But with practice you can get some great numbers. I drove from Long Island to the Catskills (upstate NY) and back - about 170 miles round trip and I figure it cost me about $8.50 on my home charger when charging at night. The trick is to get up to speed and then back off the pressure on the accelerator. You'll be surprised how constant you can keep the speed with a lot less pressure ie. electricity usage.
 

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I find this topic interesting. I've got a 2023 Air Touring with 20" wheels. It has about 15K miles on it with a lifetime average of about 3.63 Kw/mi. To say I have average driving habits would be a stretch. I'm retired and use it purely for pleasure/need drives. I'd have to say most of my miles have been on the interstate with generally a 75mph limit. Of course few people actually follow that. I'd suggest in many instances I'm in the near 80mph range. Hiway to local driving ratio is probably 80/20. While not excessively hilly, there probably is a 1000' elevation change during that hiway driving.

When it comes to average kw/mi rates, I can't really say I've seen a difference in summer/winter driving. I must add, I'm in Arizona so while we have the extreme temperature differences higher 20s in winter 105+ plus in summer. It really doesn't show. In fact, when I got the 26.x update I was hopeful to see a slight improvement, if it existed, it has gone away.

Right now, temps almost always over 100, I feel lucky to get 3.4 to 3.5 all around. It is what it is. I have only gotten 4+ coming down an 8000' mountain peak which kind of offset the 2.x going up the mountain and ultimately broke even for the trip.
 
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