Lucid Air as a home battery backup

[Lucky Luki]

I have a Lucid Air GT with a Nema 14-50 outlet installed in the garage which charges nicely at about 39 miles per hour.
Recently I added a solar roof to my house and hand to decide if I wanted a battery backup system which I decided against for now.
When I bought the Air GT in Dec. of ‘23, I was told that in the near future Lucid would be able to become my home backup battery, but nothing seems to be happening with this. The battery backup was something that I wanted, so it was a selling point for the car. Does anyone know when Lucid will have the bidirectional capability to power my home, if ever?

 

[terrycs]

There are many of us still waiting.

 

[HC_79]

I have a Lucid Air GT with a Nema 14-50 outlet installed in the garage which charges nicely at about 39 miles per hour.
Recently I added a solar roof to my house and hand to decide if I wanted a battery backup system which I decided against for now.
When I bought the Air GT in Dec. of ‘23, I was told that in the near future Lucid would be able to become my home backup battery, but nothing seems to be happening with this. The battery backup was something that I wanted, so it was a selling point for the car. Does anyone know when Lucid will have the bidirectional capability to power my home, if ever?

You’ll learn pretty quickly that Lucid has a different perspective on what the words “soon” and “near future” mean. Would be a big surprise if it came within the next 6 months but I wouldn’t hold your breath for it.

 

[fadooly]

it seems the software side is behind to offer bidirectional charging

Since the market is fragmented and there are many vendors doing different implementations or protocols, that made the job hard for lucid to develop the software

If I were in lucid shoes I would pick a vendor or 2 then develop with them the required software and hardware

These are my wild guesses from my reading

 

[sri]

I think Lucid’s budget for Software is too low, may be something like $10 per month for every car sold. Until we sell 100k’s of vehicles, the budget is low and until software is competing with Tesla/ Rivian sales will be slow. Catch the tail

 

[Leftlane]

You’ll learn pretty quickly that Lucid has a different perspective on what the words “soon” and “near future” mean. Would be a big surprise if it came within the next 6 months but I wouldn’t hold your breath for it.

Unfortunately the Elon stink rubbed off on the timeline for some of Lucid’s promises and predictions.

 

[msaunders9430]

Looks like Kia is ready for bi-directional with the EV9.
Saw this today.

Kia EV9 will power your house for $6,440

Home backup capability could make allow the Kia EV9 to become a giant backup battery the equivalent to many Tesla Powerwalls.

www.greencarreports.com

 

[sri]

Looks like Lucid is in a situation of First to announce and last to implement.
This is my major worry about Lucid were competition is catching up and overweighing on other benefits compared to Lucid. Just best driving is not going to be sufficient to succeed.

 

[borski]

Looks like Lucid is in a situation of First to announce and last to implement.
This is my major worry about Lucid were competition is catching up and overweighing on other benefits compared to Lucid. Just best driving is not going to be sufficient to succeed.

V2H is not a purchase driver. Even if every single other company builds V2H before Lucid, Lucid will not lose any significant sales from it. If they had to prioritize things, V2H wouldn't be at the top of my list, other than the fact that they announced it ages ago.

That said, I do know it's readily in progress, and they very much would like to get it out.

 

[sri]

V2H is not a purchase driver. Even if every single other company builds V2H before Lucid, Lucid will not lose any significant sales from it. If they had to prioritize things, V2H wouldn't be at the top of my list, other than the fact that they announced it ages ago.

That said, I do know it's readily in progress, and they very much would like to get it out.

I am talking in general not only specific to V2H.

 

[borski]

I am talking in general not only specific to V2H.

Then that’s just inaccurate. They were the first to announce *and* implement lots of things. They haven’t implemented.. two.

AA, and V2H.

That’s not actually that bad of a record.

 

[sri]

Then that’s just inaccurate. They were the first to announce *and* implement lots of things. They haven’t implemented.. two.

AA, and V2H.

That’s not actually that bad of a record.

We can twist this any how we want, but the fact is at this point Lucid is falling behind what was there when coming to market. I really wish and hope thighs start changing in near future and i want my second car in home non other than Lucid.

 

[fadooly]

I remember reading recently that legacy auto makers are expecting to catch up with lucid by 2030 if they are slow in innovating

Just FYI

 

[californiaboy935]

I have a Lucid Air GT with a Nema 14-50 outlet installed in the garage which charges nicely at about 39 miles per hour.
Recently I added a solar roof to my house and hand to decide if I wanted a battery backup system which I decided against for now.
When I bought the Air GT in Dec. of ‘23, I was told that in the near future Lucid would be able to become my home backup battery, but nothing seems to be happening with this. The battery backup was something that I wanted, so it was a selling point for the car. Does anyone know when Lucid will have the bidirectional capability to power my home, if ever?

I think the store sales people need some serious training, because back in 2023 I was told the same thing about B2H charging… and it’s 2025… define “near future”…
Lols.

 

[trnhockey]

Here is Tesla's bidirectional charging page. It says something about "other EV's". https://www.tesla.com/powershare

 

[kickgas]

V2H was a very serious consideration to my purchasing a 2022 AGT. That's how I talked my wife into making a substantial investment in the car. We have a solar system in our home with 20Kwh battery backup. This might last us 10-12 hrs of use in a serious power outage during very cold or hot weather conditions. The Lucid with it's much larger capacity of electrical backup could provide us 5-6 x's more available energy, lasting 2-3 days, which would cover all but the most serious power outages. Sales staff very clearly told us V2H would be available within the year. That was 2023. This has become right out of the playbook of Tesla. Over promise & under deliver. This is not a trivial issue for us and don't appreciate that this capability seems to have been put on the back burner. It was perhaps the main reason for my purchase of our Lucid. If there are legitimate reasons for the delay, at least have the integrity to be up front about it. Not to much to ask from a company who wants to build the best EV.

 

[borski]

We can twist this any how we want, but the fact is at this point Lucid is falling behind what was there when coming to market. I really wish and hope thighs start changing in near future and i want my second car in home non other than Lucid.

No, you can't 'twist' it any how we want, because I have no idea what it is you're 'twisting'. You haven't provided any specifics relevant to the discussion, other than V2H, and then you moved the goalposts.

Do you have specific examples? Or just general feelings about things? If it's just general feelings, that's fine and we have very little to discuss, as you can feel however you'd like.

But if you'd like to discuss specific things, I'm all for it, provided you also discuss the ways in which Lucid maintains a significant lead amongst their competitors, which likely isn't going to be their software prowess. Other manufacturers are ahead in other ways, sure. But to imply that Lucid is falling behind in every aspect, or even in most, is untruthful.

 

[borski]

V2H was a very serious consideration to my purchasing a 2022 AGT. That's how I talked my wife into making a substantial investment in the car. We have a solar system in our home with 20Kwh battery backup. This might last us 10-12 hrs of use in a serious power outage during very cold or hot weather conditions. The Lucid with it's much larger capacity of electrical backup could provide us 5-6 x's more available energy, lasting 2-3 days, which would cover all but the most serious power outages. Sales staff very clearly told us V2H would be available within the year. That was 2023. This has become right out of the playbook of Tesla. Over promise & under deliver. This is not a trivial issue for us and don't appreciate that this capability seems to have been put on the back burner. It was perhaps the main reason for my purchase of our Lucid. If there are legitimate reasons for the delay, at least have the integrity to be up front about it. Not to much to ask from a company who wants to build the best EV.

Just to be super duper clear: Lucid needs to get V2H out. You can't promise something and then not deliver it. I'm not defending the delays.

 

[SaratogaLefty]

As power outages or brown outs become more common with the infrastructure aging and limited new production capabilities in the short term, I do think V2H capability would be an added sales feature. I bought one of the very first LCHCS units in early 2022 and had it installed by the "EV Experts" locally in the South Bay Area. They were working with Lucid at the time to develop the V2H capability. As others have mentioned in this thread we were told at that time it would be coming soon. I also heard it many times from the most senior management of the company with the last time being about six months ago. So I am fairly confident it will happen but I don't know when. I guess it will be "soon"!!

 

[Steveinarizona]

Looks like Kia is ready for bi-directional with the EV9.
Saw this today.

Kia EV9 will power your house for $6,440

Home backup capability could make allow the Kia EV9 to become a giant backup battery the equivalent to many Tesla Powerwalls.

www.greencarreports.com

This is probably the floor for cost for now. Without this deal, I would expect the cost to be around $10K+. As I have said in other posts, users need to decide if they need all this or can make do with V2L. If one lives in a location where power blackouts are not trivial, then V2H, even with its costs, makes sense. If the blackout is localized, using V2H one can drive to a Level III charger station and reload. One can't do that with a powerwall.

But if blackouts are rare, and don't last long, then V2L may make more sense. Just plug in refrigerators and maybe another item until the power is restored.