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How is the Press Responding to the opening of Gravity Orders?

hmp10 said:
But sometimes I just can't figure Kyle Conner out:

"I just couldn't ever get comfortable in an Air" said anyone who's ever been in our Air never.
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I don't disagree with him...the ergonomics in the Air aren't amazing for me either. You sit low, yet the car still feels too big, the door panels are wide and sculpted away from you, so you have very poor visibility out the A pillars. Steering wheel is way too big of a diameter....if you try to raise the seating height, you lose visibility of the screen and knees hit the steering wheel...etc... Compare that to a Taycan, where it just feels like a glove. Perfect seats, perfect size steering wheel, visibility towards the corner apex, etc.

Sounds like the Gravity's higher seating position solves a lot of the problems that I have with the Air from a visibility perspective (not to mention a small steering wheel with a faster ratio due to RWS)
 
momo3605 said:
You sit low, yet the car still feels too big, the door panels are wide and sculpted away from you, so you have very poor visibility out the A pillars. Steering wheel is way too big of a diameter....if you try to raise the seating height, you lose visibility of the screen and knees hit the steering wheel...
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I know these were negatives for you, but I’m very amused that they’re all positives for me. Although my knees don’t hit the steering wheel lol, and I have no problem seeing around the A pillar. But low? Yes please. Tons of room? Yes please. Comfortable steering wheel with lots of padding? Sure I’d prefer the sapphire wheel but I’m very happy with the comfort.

To each their own. :)
 
momo3605 said:
I don't disagree with him...the ergonomics in the Air aren't amazing for me either. You sit low, yet the car still feels too big, the door panels are wide and sculpted away from you, so you have very poor visibility out the A pillars. Steering wheel is way too big of a diameter....if you try to raise the seating height, you lose visibility of the screen and knees hit the steering wheel...etc... Compare that to a Taycan, where it just feels like a glove. Perfect seats, perfect size steering wheel, visibility towards the corner apex, etc.

Sounds like the Gravity's higher seating position solves a lot of the problems that I have with the Air from a visibility perspective (not to mention a small steering wheel with a faster ratio due to RWS)
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I've seen other posters here make similar comments, so I have no reason to doubt some people have these issues. Personally, short as I am, I had issues with ingress and egress until I developed enough motor memory to become (mostly) unaware of them. But once inside the car, I have found it one of the most comfortable cars I've ever owned. My partner, who is the same 6'1" as Kyle Conner, finds the Air extremely comfortable both behind the wheel and in the passenger seat and far prefers it to his Model S for road tripping.

The concave sculpting of the door panels is one of the reason the Air feels so much more spacious to me than the Model S, even though both are almost identical in exterior width. Your comment on that is the first I've seen. I love the Air steering wheel, but then I've had my share of Mercedes cars which are known for their large steering wheels, so maybe it's just a matter of conditioning.
 
I see Lucid hasn't yet updated its website to show the 450-mile EPA rating, nor are they yet showing the ratings for each of the wheel sizes. I'm very curious about that, as I'm torn between the mid-size and largest-size wheels. The mid-size look to be more aero. I also like their look better and, although they come with all-season tires which I don't want, Pirelli does make a summer tire in the 21" and 22" size.

Our Air Dream P on 21" wheels has an EPA rating of 451 miles and, although we get only a little under 80% on road trips at the 80-mph speeds I prefer, it is more than sufficient for our road tripping. Also, that rating was before the EPA made their testing more rigorous, thus the Gravity rating under the new testing standard should actually open up a gap between the two ratings.

On the other hand, aerodynamics rapidly come to dominate range at higher speeds, and the Gravity has considerably more drag (based on both a higher Cd and a larger frontal area). That suggests that at 80 mph the Gravity might fall significantly behind our Air in real-world range. So the effect of wheel choice on range is particularly important to me.
 
The generous interior sizing of the Air is awesome but it was one of the specific areas that caused me to pass on the Air - I am not big and I could not find a comfortable position to sit in so that I could rest my left arm on the door armrest. The scalloping of the doors gives more room but for me made the armrest too far away to get comfy and I drive with my left arm up all the time. Very particular to me but was important nonetheless.
 
Cammisa illustrates the ingenuity of the Lucid design, including the various use cases for the Gravity frunk:

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Well, as expected, it seems that Lucid pretty much ran the board with the press reviews today. They love this vehicle.
 
It's funny, I just watched pieces of the review, I didn't have the stamina or inclination to sit through it all. What I was amused by, and I see it so often with tech reviews on a myriad of products is the following: The previous iteration of whatever is being reviewed was terrific, incredible, amazing...at the time of the review. However when the next iteration comes out, the reviewer says in not so many words, 'eh, that last one was really a POS but this one is terrific, incredible, amazing'. OK, I'm exaggerating a bit, but I think some of you know what I'm saying despite this is an SUV vs a car.
 
I had trouble with the pre-pro mule idea, in the Motortrend review the panel gap on the frunk was bothering me:). I really think Lucid needs to get a handful of press vehicles in fully loaded GT, and a base GT no dynamic handling, tech pack etc.
 
Lucken said:
It's funny, I just watched pieces of the review, I didn't have the stamina or inclination to sit through it all.
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All the reviews from people who have driven the car were pretty much in the same vein, with the exception of "The Autopian". He thought the Gravity was "technically the greatest 3-row SUV ever" but nevertheless felt it might flop in the marketplace because of what he thought was its poor styling. As they say, "there's always one . . . ."

I found the Jason Cammisa podcast the most interesting of today's batch of reviews. He really got into some of the finer details and, even without video footage of his test drive, the focus and clarity of his narrative actually gave me more of a sense for what it's like to sit in and drive the Gravity than any of the other reviews.

One thing that had surprised me from the "Out of Spec" review was that the Gravity RWS only deflects the wheels a little under 3º, as compared to the Mercedes SUV which can deflect 4º and 10º. But Cammisa put some perspective on this by explaining why he thought that Lucid joined Porsche as the only manufacturer to do RWS right.

But the consensus of all the reviews was solid. Lucid has created another space packaging miracle and a tour de force of driving dynamics in this vehicle class. Cammisa went so far as to say that companies such as Lucid are leveraging the advantages of EV platforms to produce sedans and SUVs that are starting to render sport cars obsolete.
 
hmp10 said:
All the reviews from people who have driven the car were pretty much in the same vein, with the exception of "The Autopian". He thought the Gravity was "technically the greatest 3-row SUV ever" but nevertheless felt it might flop in the marketplace because of what he thought was its poor styling. As they say, "there's always one . . . ."

I found the Jason Cammisa podcast the most interesting of today's batch of reviews. He really got into some of the finer details and, even without video footage of his test drive, the focus and clarity of his narrative actually gave me more of a sense for what it's like to sit in and drive the Gravity than any of the other reviews.

One thing that had surprised me from the "Out of Spec" review was that the Gravity RWS only deflects the wheels a little under 3º, as compared to the Mercedes SUV which can deflect 4º and 10º. But Cammisa put some perspective on this by explaining why he thought that Lucid joined Porsche as the only manufacturer to do RWS right.

But the consensus of all the reviews was solid. Lucid has created another space packaging miracle and a tour de force of driving dynamics in this vehicle class. Cammisa went so far as to say that companies such as Lucid are leveraging the advantages of EV platforms to produce sedans and SUVs that are starting to render sport cars obsolete.
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I loved that podcast this morning. Jason Cammisa is fucking fantastic.
 
borski said:
I loved that podcast this morning. Jason Cammisa is fucking fantastic.
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He should be doing a dedicated review once he get real seat time. His Hagerty videos are some of the best for his opinions, information, presentation and production values.
 
Pragmatic said:
He should be doing a dedicated review once he get real seat time. His Hagerty videos are some of the best for his opinions, information, presentation and production values.
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I could not agree more
 
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