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I feel like I'm talking to myself. Lucid just announced north of $100K will be the price range at this time. Having just test drove the Taycan Monday that price range should not surprise me. I kept my wallet in my pocket knowing the Rivian R1T is my true goal. If that doesn't go well it will be back to the Model S and comparing it to what Lucid Air will be. I've been a reservation holder for the Rivian for 14 months now. The Hummer will make it's appearance May 20, 2020. Once the tech boys show up here and start with their analytical and electrical formulas I will go silent.
 

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I feel like I'm talking to myself. Lucid just announced north of $100K will be the price range at this time. Having just test drove the Taycan Monday that price range should not surprise me. I kept my wallet in my pocket knowing the Rivian R1T is my true goal. If that doesn't go well it will be back to the Model S and comparing it to what Lucid Air will be. I've been a reservation holder for the Rivian for 14 months now. The Hummer will make it's appearance May 20, 2020. Once the tech boys show up here and start with their analytical and electrical formulas I will go silent.
Hi, I just registered.
 
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Lot of lurkers showing up. Hopefully more will sign up and start chatting. Will continue to post news and such as I find them. :)
 

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Hi. I'm a Tesla owner and a reservation holder for both a Rivian R1S and a Lucid Air. Tesla sold me on EV's, and I'll never be without one again. But I want to sample as many other approaches to EV design as I can while I can. I was on the fence about whether to go forward to a firm order on the Rivian or the Lucid until I saw the announcements over the past couple of months about how far Lucid has progressed with innovative, high-efficiency drivetrain engineering: low-cogging PMSM motors, cycloidal transmission, hints of proprietary battery chemistry, etc. I've decided the Rivan's weight (almost 6,000 pounds) and rough-terrain drivetrain (four motors) is a bit of overkill for my less-demanding purposes.

I've been perplexed, though, why the Rivian forums are so active and the Lucid forums are little more than crickets chirping every now and then. The automotive press certainly seems taken with the Lucid and pounces on every little tidbit of new information that comes out, and the car just seems to get more promising with every additional engineering tease. Yet there is more posting about Lucid on the Tesla forums than on the Lucid forums.

I'm also wondering what the reservation picture is. I put down my deposit in September 2018 and have been living mostly in an information desert ever since. When I finally decided a couple of months ago to go with the Lucid instead of the Rivian, I called to see if there were still spots available for the Dream Edition. I was told it is the new moniker for what was once billed as the Launch Edition of which there were only going to be 255 cars. So I expected to be told all the slots were taken. They were not, so I upped my reservation to a Dream Edition. (I'm 68 and my Tesla extended warranty is running out in early 2021. I didn't want either the warranty or myself to expire before I had the chance to put a Lucid on the road.) I'm glad I was able to get on the early delivery list, but at the same time it's a bit unsettling that I could.
 

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I just put in my deposit and have not any information to if that is for the 'Dream Edition' or not. Where can we find that information. So far, I agree with @hmp10 on the lack of information this is being provided by the company.

Hopefully we get more information in the coming weeks and months. I'm over Tesla and looking for something fresher and more innovative and the Air looks looks very promising in terms of its engineering. interior and exterior. Can't wait to see one in person.
 

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Whew . . . glad finally to see someone else posting here, Vish.

If you want more information, you can call or email the Sales department using the contact information given at the bottom of the Lucid Motors website. They are very responsive and will answer what questions they can. However, with the delay of road testing caused by Covid-19, there have been some delays in locking down final specifications, so there will be limits on what they can tell you.

The Dream Edition requires a $25,500 deposit. It's what was originally called the "Launch Edition", which was to be a fully-optioned run of the first 255 cars. (I'm not sure if the 255 number holds for the Dream Edition, though.)

The Dream Edition will be available in three special colors -- a pearlescent black, a pearlescent white, and a soft bronze-like gold. It will almost certainly be the two-motor all-wheel-drive version of the car and probably have a battery pack around 110 kWh, as plans for a 130-kWh pack have been discontinued in light of recent advances in total system efficiency. The Dream Edition will come only with a rear bench seat, as the reclining "executive rear seating" will not be available until about a year after launch. Also, although the Air has been designed to take up to three 600-hp motors, I believe two motors will be the most available at launch, producing about 1,000 hp -- capped a bit below the 1,200 hp of the motors by limitations in battery output. (Personally, I don't see any point in three motors. The power and torque of the two motors will already be well beyond anything tires can handle, so what's the purpose of added weight other than some very marginal additional torque vectoring?)

The Dream Edition will also come with the full glass canopy, but it's not clear whether the planned electrochromic darkening option will be available at launch.

Lucid's current plans are to announce the specifications and configuration options in late summer, perhaps coinciding with the postponed New York Auto Show in late August, but not dependent on that show (as it could still be derailed by a renewed Covid-19 outbreak).

A couple of recent articles based on interviews with Lucid CEO Peter Rawlinson give some of the most comprehensive information that is currently available:

https://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that...-motors-says-ecar-design-all-about-efficiency

https://www.motortrend.com/news/peter-rawlinson-lucid-motors-interview/
 
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Whew . . . glad finally to see someone else posting here, Vish.

If you want more information, you can call or email the Sales department using the contact information given at the bottom of the Lucid Motors website. They are very responsive and will answer what questions they can. However, with the delay of road testing caused by Covid-19, there have been some delays in locking down final specifications, so there will be limits on what they can tell you.

The Dream Edition requires a $25,500 deposit. It's what was originally called the "Launch Edition", which was to be a fully-optioned run of the first 255 cars. (I'm not sure if the 255 number holds for the Dream Edition, though.)

The Dream Edition will be available in three special colors -- a pearlescent black, a pearlescent white, and a soft bronze-like gold. It will almost certainly be the two-motor all-wheel-drive version of the car and probably have a battery pack around 110 kWh, as plans for a 130-kWh pack have been discontinued in light of recent advances in total system efficiency. The Dream Edition will come only with a rear bench seat, as the reclining "executive rear seating" will not be available until about a year after launch. Also, although the Air has been designed to take up to three 600-hp motors, I believe two motors will be the most available at launch, producing about 1,000 hp -- capped a bit below the 1,200 hp of the motors by limitations in battery output. (Personally, I don't see any point in three motors. The power and torque of the two motors will already be well beyond anything tires can handle, so what's the purpose of added weight other than some very marginal additional torque vectoring?)

The Dream Edition will also come with the full glass canopy, but it's not clear whether the planned electrochromic darkening option will be available at launch.

Lucid's current plans are to announce the specifications and configuration options in late summer, perhaps coinciding with the postponed New York Auto Show in late August, but not dependent on that show (as it could still be derailed by a renewed Covid-19 outbreak).

A couple of recent articles based on interviews with Lucid CEO Peter Rawlinson give some of the most comprehensive information that is currently available:

https://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that...-motors-says-ecar-design-all-about-efficiency

https://www.motortrend.com/news/peter-rawlinson-lucid-motors-interview/
Happy to be among the early adopters. Thanks for the details. I’ll check with the sales team.
 

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Hello all. I have followed Ev’s for years and was one of the first Tesla’s in Ohio in 2012. The Lucid is the first vehicle that has everything I feel it needs to meet or exceed my Model S’s experience. I waited many years for my first Tesla and i have never tired of driving it. I don’t see any change in the look of the car coming anytime soon and that is why I ordered the Air. Hello to all.
 

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Same here. I have a 2015 Model S that I love and intend to keep. However, for hauling my retiree friends around the cramped back seat is really not suitable. I am getting a Lucid Air Dream Edition to resolve that problem.
 

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Same here. I have a 2015 Model S that I love and intend to keep. However, for hauling my retiree friends around the cramped back seat is really not suitable. I am getting a Lucid Air Dream Edition to resolve that problem.
Mine is 2014. I stayed up refreshing the order site to order Dual motor AWD to replace my 2012 RWD.
I hope it is not to far away. I only ordered recently so I am sure I have a while.
 

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Almost no information has gotten out about how many reservations have been placed on the Lucid Air. I saw one vague comment from Peter Rawlinson a few weeks ago saying the reservation situation was strong, but no figures were given.

I placed my $2500 reservation for an Air in September 2018. At the time they were also accepting $25,500 reservations for a "Launch Edition" of 255 cars, but I didn't opt for that.

Then, early this year, Lucid lowered the price of a reservation to $1,000 and offered to refund $1,500 to early reservations holders while still keeping their places in line. At the same time more details about the production version of the car were coming out, along with an option to reserve a special "Dream Edition". I called Lucid to inquire and was told the "Dream Edition" was just a renaming of the "Launch Edition". I asked if I could up my reservation to the "Dream Edition", fully expecting all the slots to have long since been taken. To my surprise, I was able to reserve a "Dream Edition".

I'm not sure what light that sheds on the number of cars that have been reserved and where we stand in line. My guess -- and it's just that -- is that the lowering of the reservation price and the availability of a "Dream Edition" slot more than 18 months after my initial reservation signals that they are not blowing the roof off with reservations. We may not find out anything more until we convert to actual orders and get our projected delivery dates.
 
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New member. Just placed my Dream Edition reservation today. Could get no sense of how many Dream Edition reservations are still available. The only info I could obtain is that it will be extremely limited and not in the thousands.
 

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New member. Just placed my Dream Edition reservation today. Could get no sense of how many Dream Edition reservations are still available. The only info I could obtain is that it will be extremely limited and not in the thousands.
I wonder if it's the same number as the "Launch Edition" that the "Dream Edition" replaced: 255 cars? (That struck me as an odd number that seems to relate to the $25,500 reservation price, which is also an odd number. I wonder if either number is meant to have any significance?)

It's interesting that "Dream Edition" reservations are still being taken. I wonder if that means that not many people are reserving Airs, or just not many people want to pony up $25,500 for a special edition of a car that has not yet been widely revealed and is still months away from production.

I posted what I had been able to find out about the "Dream Edition" in Post #10, above. (The only thing I've found out since is that the only production version that has been built so far -- and was destined for the canceled New York Auto Show -- is in the gold color with the Santa Monica interior. I've been unable to find out which interior schemes will be offered with which colors.)

Were you able to obtain any further information?
 
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I wonder if it's the same number as the "Launch Edition" that the "Dream Edition" replaced: 255 cars? (That struck me as an odd number that seems to relate to the $25,500 reservation price, which is also an odd number. I wonder if either number is meant to have any significance?)

It's interesting that "Dream Edition" reservations are still being taken. I wonder if that means that not many people are reserving Airs, or just not many people want to pony up $25,500 for a special edition of a car that has not yet been widely revealed and is still months away from production.

I posted what I had been able to find out about the "Dream Edition" in Post #10, above. (The only thing I've found out since is that the only production version that has been built so far -- and was destined for the canceled New York Auto Show -- is in the gold color with the Santa Monica interior. I've been unable to find out which interior schemes will be offered with which colors.)

Were you able to obtain any further information?
No further info. Now that the September 9th unveil has been announced they are being extremely tight lipped. Basically told that my questions will be answered during the unveil.
 

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No further info. Now that the September 9th unveil has been announced they are being extremely tight lipped. Basically told that my questions will be answered during the unveil.
Yes, they seem to be getting quieter as the reveal nears. They stepped a bit into the limelight with their February premiere event at the Newark Design Studio but have stepped back into the shadows ever since the New York Auto Show plans went off track.

I talked to them several weeks ago about how much misinformation about the car was showing up in the press and on internet discussion boards, driven in part by the fact that their website still contains information from three years ago that has long since been superseded with newer information that executives such as Rawlinson, Bach, Holcholdinger, and Jenkins have put out through interviews and press releases. I was told that instead of keeping their website current, they're only going to do one overhaul that will coincide with the September reveal. It's an interesting marketing strategy.

I'm wondering whether the pace of interviews given to the press will slow or cease altogether as the reveal nears.
 

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A computer-literate friend and I were discussing EVs, and I mentioned that Lucid was initially teasing a Launch Edition of 255 cars, which I thought was an odd number. He told me that one byte can store numbers from 0 to 255 and is consequently one character slot in a database.

Could that be why Lucid chose 255? Maybe an inside joke among the engineers . . . and a dog whistle to those in the know that everything about Lucid is engineering-oriented?
 
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