Hands free Drive Assist! Jul 30. Air first!

I know it's in active dev for Gravity. No idea re: Air.
I can’t remember if that question was asked during the owner event last weekend in Seattle, but some Lucid employees implied that the new ccc upgrade, with « twice the disc space / compute / memory » would unlock some features they can’t really build with the old ccc. I’m guessing dashcam/sentry could be the one feature hinted at? I can see dash needing the extra power and memory to run in the background on top of the extra disc space for storing all these video feeds.
 
Having used Autopilot and FSD (beta/supervised) in my Model X for 7+ years, and Blue Cruise in my wife's Mach-E, I prefer at most times to have a hand on the wheel. I don't have my Lucid yet, but the torque sensing seems similar to Tesla's.

I don't tug at it periodically. Instead I hang a hand on it, typically around the lower quadrants. This satisfies the nanny timer, but it also lets me feel what the car is doing and respond to it immediately if I don't like what it's doing. This kinesthetic connection to the car and road keeps me more in the loop than just watching the road.

If your hands are not on the wheel, and an emergency occurs, your reaction time will be slower as you move to grab the wheel before you can do anything.

There are certainly use cases where I will use the hands free (once I get my GDE) but most of the time when using ADAS I will have a hand on the wheel. YMMV.
 
Having used Autopilot and FSD (beta/supervised) in my Model X for 7+ years, and Blue Cruise in my wife's Mach-E, I prefer at most times to have a hand on the wheel. I don't have my Lucid yet, but the torque sensing seems similar to Tesla's.

I don't tug at it periodically. Instead I hang a hand on it, typically around the lower quadrants. This satisfies the nanny timer, but it also lets me feel what the car is doing and respond to it immediately if I don't like what it's doing. This kinesthetic connection to the car and road keeps me more in the loop than just watching the road.

If your hands are not on the wheel, and an emergency occurs, your reaction time will be slower as you move to grab the wheel before you can do anything.

There are certainly use cases where I will use the hands free (once I get my GDE) but most of the time when using ADAS I will have a hand on the wheel. YMMV.

I would agree, but even with that the single biggest: what kind of trash system is this? with Tesla is that you can't correct it! If it starts veering out of a lane and you try to gently get it back on track, it just quits.

With BlueCruise as long as you aren't taking serious evasive actions, it'll let you correct it without disengaging. Which is the sane thing to do...
 
As an AGT owner, also a former Tesla model S owner, I remember the day that autopilot first appeared. I was so excited.

As I was driving home from work I decided to engage it. Within 5 minutes the car almost hit a guard rail before I grabbed the wheel to correct it.

It gradually improved over the years. You always needed to pay attention.

I’m very interested in seeing how good Lucid is with the first iteration.
...no different than it is right now, would be my guess, unless this revision also contains refinements to the model.
 
I have to say the eye tracking for Traffic stop/start worked really well for me in DD Pro so it seems logical to extend it to Drive Assist on the highway. Unfortunately, July 30th means I will be on the last leg of my 2200-mile road trip this summer, and although my car has been getting updates faster it probably won't be available for a thorough test...
I think the ddpro still doesn't detect stop lights. I have highways here in Utah that dream drive works, but does have stop signs occasionally. And it'll blast right through them if I don't cancel HA early.
 
All of that to say, hands free really feels like a step up for us (and it is, in terms of practical functionality),but from a feature development standpoint, it was little more than taking the shackles off the existing system, which was already doing the underlying thing we wanted....driving on its own on freeways, whereas Dashcam/Sentry is another animal (particularly Sentry).
I really hope it's not simply just removing the requirement to torque the wheel every now and then. The inherent capability to keep the vehicle centered in the lane is WAY below industry standards these days. I have had MANY instances where my passengers got scared from something the vehicle tried to do on the highway and I would never take my hands off the wheel unless that improves. My life is worth more than that.
 
I'll be happy just to do away with the Hold-The-Wheel nag on those long drives where my hands don't dance enough to convince Lucid that I'm still holding on.
This. I've found it's a lot of work to keep the nags at bay while my hands are on the wheel (I know you can hold in certain ways that help, that's just not comfortable for me - I've tried). Hopefully this resolves that. I have no intention of keeping my hand/hands off the wheel for more than a few seconds anyway, but with the lack of capacitive sensing from the wheel, this could help immensely. IF it works with sunglasses (already have a camera profile for that), this will likely show if/how well that works.
 
I really hope it's not simply just removing the requirement to torque the wheel every now and then. The inherent capability to keep the vehicle centered in the lane is WAY below industry standards these days. I have had MANY instances where my passengers got scared from something the vehicle tried to do on the highway and I would never take my hands off the wheel unless that improves. My life is worth more than that.
I've encountered a couple of oddities in several hours of use...but NONE where my hands being on the wheel vs sitting on my lap would've made shred of difference. On that basis, I disagree that hands off is useless until the oddities are resolved. Perhaps your observations have been different to mine, that's a possibility. If so, be sure to share them with Lucid, along with the date and time moving forward. Perhaps they can pull useful data from the telemetry logs, especially with 2.7.1 having been improved on that front.
 
I think the update would be small one in size, I expect it to be turning on a dormant existing software with a few additional updates...let's see
 
Hopefully my Ray Bans prove to be a surmountable challenge!
For what it's worth, I ditched my Ray-Bans for Serengeti. Still polarized, better quality, and for whatever reason the eye tracking in the Air has no trouble seeing through them. I think the same goes for Maui Jims.
 
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