Gravity; SUV or Minivan

[borski]

This thread will dissipate away once Gravity ships. Like the 1001 nights of Android Auto.

 

[WeighingGravity]

so you're saying borski has a while longer to suffer.....

 

[msaunders9430]

I hate this thread.

Look at it this way; think about how many other threads would have been derailed with all the comments in this thread.

Here they're all concentrated instead of diluting other threads. And you do a bang up job of directing traffic to this thread when members try to infiltrate other threads.

 

[Samo23]

Saw the Gravity for the first time in UTC San Diego.

I came here to lament my calling it a minivan. It does not give minivan in person at all. It's shockingly awesome.

 

[iThinkEV]

to me, it's a very tall wagon. and I love wagons.
If it's not for Porsche coming out with the Taycan Cross Turismo and later the Sport Turismo, I would have owned a RS6 Avant.
My 1st wagon love. '02 allroad 2.7t. oh the memories.

-iThinkEV-

 

[AnthonySF]

to me, it's a very tall wagon. and I love wagons.
If it's not for Porsche coming out with the Taycan Cross Turismo and later the Sport Turismo, I would have owned a RS6 Avant.
My 1st wagon love. '02 allroad 2.7t. oh the memories.

-iThinkEV-

Yes, it is a tall wagon. The RS6 is about 60 inches in height. The gravity is about 65 inches in height. A Chrysler Pacifica is about 70 inches in height. Since the gravity has piano black at the very top of its roof line trying to make it look smaller it does make it seem more towards a wagon, especially when it’s lowered. That’s why no one should ever drive there gravity raised up.

 

[CraZ8]

Having had two e class Mercedes wagons I can appreciate the look of a tall wagon. The Gravity will replace the wife’s Range Rover Velar which is a crossover and is pretty close in exterior dimensions and look to the gravity but no where near the interior space. I’ll get a lot more usability out of the gravity for sure and as an added benefit it will be a lot easier to get in and out of that my Air

 

[CraZ8]

Here are some shots

of the Velar. You see a bit of the same design language as the Air / Gravity. Same uncluttered lines, similar nose and taillight treatments and with the gravity same swept back cabin look

 

[dbsb3233]

I've always preferred taller vehicles, and the look of a real SUV (boxy rear). And lamented the shift to more sloped/curvy crossovers that don't sit as tall. But to get the extra range, I've resigned myself to the fact it's gotta be a more wagon-y shape. So I ordered a Gravity. It's not my favorite shape/look, but it's tall enough (64" is about the minimum height I'll settle for). Moreover, they did a fantastic job of creating lots of cargo space in a not-so-big outside footprint.

I have yet to see a Gravity in person (the Denver showroom says they hope to have one this month). Most say it looks better in person than pictures.

 

[hmp10]

to me, it's a very tall wagon. and I love wagons.

-iThinkEV-

For rating purposes State Farm classifies the Gravity as a "Sport Wagon".

Most say it looks better in person than pictures.

It really does.

 

[Batteryman]

Gravity design is predicting the future…….

Renault Design Boss Says 'Sexy, Desirable' MPVs Could Make A Return As SUVs Fall Out Of Favor - Jalopnik

Europe may have been all-in on SUVs recently, but Renault's design boss foresees a near future in which an emphasis on efficiency may renew interest in MPVs.

www.jalopnik.com

 

[DeaneG]

Foreshadowed by one of Derek Jenkins' first designs, the diminutive Audi A2.

 

[TahoeMichael]

Gravity design is predicting the future…….

Renault Design Boss Says 'Sexy, Desirable' MPVs Could Make A Return As SUVs Fall Out Of Favor - Jalopnik

Europe may have been all-in on SUVs recently, but Renault's design boss foresees a near future in which an emphasis on efficiency may renew interest in MPVs.

www.jalopnik.com

It's a shame so many are down on sliding doors. It seems to be an American thing (maybe European also). Whenever I travel to Japan, I'm struck by all the great vehicles they have with sliding doors. Particularly in crowded urban environments, they make accessing the interior much easier.

 

[Need4Sleep]

Gravity design is predicting the future…….

Renault Design Boss Says 'Sexy, Desirable' MPVs Could Make A Return As SUVs Fall Out Of Favor - Jalopnik

Europe may have been all-in on SUVs recently, but Renault's design boss foresees a near future in which an emphasis on efficiency may renew interest in MPVs.

www.jalopnik.com

I wouldn't be surprised if this is where the design trends for electric SUVs head towards. The design requirements to get the interior volume of ICE SUVs aren't the same when compared to an electric SUV. Case in point, the Gravity. And then there's the whole discussion about the frontal area to improve efficiency and range.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is where the design trends for electric SUVs head towards. The design requirements to get the interior volume of ICE SUVs aren't the same when compared to an electric SUV. Case in point, the Gravity. And then there's the whole discussion about the frontal area to improve efficiency and range.

But what’s amazing is how much larger Gravity is INSIDE compared to other EVs, like R1S. Third row is appreciably larger than R1S and X. My kids had no issue getting into, sitting and out of Gravity third row. They refuse third row of X and only one can barely fit in the R1S. And yes, I had second row pretty far back to test. And Gravity, X and R1S are basically all the same length externally.

 

[Need4Sleep]

But what’s amazing is how much larger Gravity is INSIDE compared to other EVs, like R1S. Third row is appreciably larger than R1S and X. My kids had no issue getting into, sitting and out of Gravity third row. They refuse third row of X and only one can barely fit in the R1S. And yes, I had second row pretty far back to test. And Gravity, X and R1S are basically all the same length externally.

I'm guessing it's because Rivian is focused more on off-roading, so design considerations will need to take note of ground clearance, wading depth, etc. Meanwhile, the Gravity is more focused for on-road use, so its design considerations will focus more on interior space, etc.

 

[AnthonySF]

I'm guessing it's because Rivian is focused more on off-roading, so design considerations will need to take note of ground clearance, wading depth, etc. Meanwhile, the Gravity is more focused for on-road use, so its design considerations will focus more on interior space, etc.

Exactly. It’s comical how in depth people in forums get with comparing what they have against the “other” “lesser” brands they’re not buying. The R1S has 8 less cubic feet of interior storage than the 7 seater gravity. Which again, people love to say “of what I have is the BEST. Funny, the R1S is already leading in its segment and I would really really like to know what you are going to put in your car with that extra 8 cubic feet of space. Oh wait, we’re all Americans and prepare for things we don’t actually need but just want to say we have.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

Exactly. It’s comical how in depth people in forums get with comparing what they have against the “other” “lesser” brands they’re not buying. The R1S has 8 less cubic feet of interior storage than the 7 seater gravity. Which again, people love to say “of what I have is the BEST. Funny, the R1S is already leading in its segment and I would really really like to know what you are going to put in your car with that extra 8 cubic feet of space. Oh wait, we’re all Americans and prepare for things we don’t actually need but just want to say we have.

I own an R1S. One of the first quad motors. So I am speaking from experience. Rivian is a great brand and it’s cars meet many needs.

No doubt Rivian was focused on off roading. Ironically, where I live, the R1S has become the main mom-mobile.

I bought the R1S because it was closer to the family SUV I really wanted my X to be. I’ve off roaded in it plenty, camped a bit, but ultimately, I need more every day utility (kind of like a minivan but I drove a minivan for a decade and am EV only at this point), so will add a Gravity to the family.

 

[dbsb3233]

I'm guessing it's because Rivian is focused more on off-roading, so design considerations will need to take note of ground clearance, wading depth, etc. Meanwhile, the Gravity is more focused for on-road use, so its design considerations will focus more on interior space, etc.

While I haven't seen the actual measurements, I think it's more that the Gravity shortens the front end and positions the front row further forward, thus there's more room in the rest of the car.

I'd like to see the relative distances from front bumper to the steering wheel for the Gravity vs the R1S. Wouldn't surprise me if the Gravity steering wheel is a full foot further forward.

 

[TahoeMichael]

While I haven't seen the actual measurements, I think it's more that the Gravity shortens the front end and positions the front row further forward, thus there's more room in the rest of the car.

I'd like to see the relative distances from front bumper to the steering wheel for the Gravity vs the R1S. Wouldn't surprise me if the Gravity steering wheel is a full foot further forward.

I agree, the short nose makes a big part of the difference. And I think the short nose is also what causes some to say they don't like the Gravity because it looks too much like a minivan. While I personally think the Gravity looks fine, I'd also have to say that the design really serves the engineering. For most car companies, it's the other way around. And catering to a design aesthetic set by front-engine ICE vehicles then limits the engineering team's ability to achieve the brilliant packaging that Lucid managed.