Gravity; SUV or Minivan

[hmp10]

FWIW, I just got my insurance bill from State Farm for our Gravity that is supposed to be arriving at the end of this month. State Farm classifies the Gravity as a "Sport Wagon". Having seen one three times plus recently test driven one, I think that's a good call.

 

[new owner]

Completely agree
A raised sports wagon or estate but much improved

 

[thyname]

FWIW, I just got my insurance bill from State Farm for our Gravity that is supposed to be arriving at the end of this month. State Farm classifies the Gravity as a "Sport Wagon". Having seen one three times plus recently test driven one, I think that's a good call.

Could you share the insurance “damage” difference between Gravity and your Air? Thanks

 

[hmp10]

Could you share the insurance “damage” difference between Gravity and your Air? Thanks

The Air DE is $868.67 per 6 months, and the Gravity DE is $690.48.

 

[thyname]

The Air DE is $868.67 per 6 months, and the Gravity DE is $690.48.

Thank you! This is fantastic, and surprisingly good!

 

[hmp10]

Thank you! This is fantastic, and surprisingly good!

I keep high deductibles, but they’re the same on both cars, so still a clean comparison.

 

[msaunders9430]

I saw an article about the BYD Denza Z9 with the caption "DenzaZ Z9 GT Is A 1,000 HP Shooting Brake With Porsche In Its Sights".
Gravity has been called an suv, a sport wagon, a minivan, etc., but I haven't heard four-door shooting brake suggested.

I started looking at some other car considered four-door shooting brakes; specifically their dimensions.
Other than height, the Gravity isn't too far off.
However, I suppose the three-row seating capacity takes it out of the category.

Zeekr 001

Denza Z9 GT

Porsche Cross Turismo

 

[jered]

I'm kinda amused that all our names for car body styles are still based on horse-drawn carriages.

 

[msaunders9430]

I'm kinda amused that all our names for car body styles are still based on horse-drawn carriages.

True.
We just replaced the horse with motors and engines, but kept the carriages and enclosed them with windows.

 

[David2025]

The factors I think that affect the decision:

• higher price means higher margins, raking in the most money in the short term to help stay afloat
• higher price means fewer customers which means a smaller/shorter backlog of frustrated owners as the deliveries slowly ramp (Touring customers will still be frustrated, but at least they won't have forked over money yet)
• only building one design lets them focus on the basics of building the new model which will be 90% lessons that transfer on to the other trim level when its production starts. Doing both from the start means they will not only need to work out the basics but also the issues with building both at the same time
• (less certain) ?Getting the most capable model out to the press for the most positive reviews out of the gate? (If they had the Touring model available initially then (some) reviewers might want to focus on that one and some of the glow will be taken out of the initial impressions)

Actually, they made a mistake in at least one way. Instead of the Grand Touring being the only one for sale they should have "released" the base model and had the Grand Touring as in essence a required option on the first Xthousand sold. That would have let all the buyers get the $7500 EV credit plus any state credit. For example if you were in CO you'd also get a $5000 EV credit over and above the federal $7500 plus various credits for installation of your home box charger, trade in of ICE vehicle, etc.

Before everyone has a coronary over that's not the way new car manufacturing works, if you do not like the mandatory Grand Touring option idea the system just pushes your build day out a year. It's not like they're not an age behind on original delivery dates anyway. I am not a hater. In fact a buyer. I just hate giving away what would be free money for all of us. In CO that's close to $20K. makes an upgrade to the GT version free!

 

[037]

Actually, they made a mistake in at least one way. Instead of the Grand Touring being the only one for sale they should have "released" the base model and had the Grand Touring as in essence a required option on the first Xthousand sold. That would have let all the buyers get the $7500 EV credit plus any state credit. For example if you were in CO you'd also get a $5000 EV credit over and above the federal $7500 plus various credits for installation of your home box charger, trade in of ICE vehicle, etc.

Before everyone has a coronary over that's not the way new car manufacturing works, if you do not like the mandatory Grand Touring option idea the system just pushes your build day out a year. It's not like they're not an age behind on original delivery dates anyway. I am not a hater. In fact a buyer. I just hate giving away what would be free money for all of us. In CO that's close to $20K. makes an upgrade to the GT version free!

Can’t get credit without a delivery…

Counting your chickens too early.