Gravity Delivery Discussion

Huh?

Only one of our original garage door remotes still works (yes, even with new batteries). It's not been a problem as our other cars have Homelink. However, if our second Gravity arrives still missing Homelink, it appears I'd better get new remotes.

Any timeframe given for addressing this issue?
As many are aware, I often give Lucid the benefit of the doubt, and have quite a bit of confidence in them. However let’s call a spade a spade that basics like Homelink should have been sorted out before delivery, like most cars have a version of that, in fact my March 2022 Air GT made when they were still learning how to build cars came with Homelink on delivery and it has worked flawlessly for 3 years. Of course now some jerk from eletricvehilce.com will probably quote this post on a lazy web article and make Lucid look bad, but here’s a PR suggestion for Lucid: if you ship cars with features you advertise it as having, you’re less vulnerable to drama.
 
As many are aware, I often give Lucid the benefit of the doubt, and have quite a bit of confidence in them. However let’s call a spade a spade that basics like Homelink should have been sorted out before delivery, like most cars have a version of that, in fact my March 2022 Air GT made when they were still learning how to build cars came with Homelink on delivery and it has worked flawlessly for 3 years. Of course now some jerk from eletricvehilce.com will probably quote this post on a lazy web article and make Lucid look bad, but here’s a PR suggestion for Lucid: if you ship cars with features you advertise it as having, you’re less vulnerable to drama.
I’m pretty sure Homelink is an option for the Gravity; but don’t quote me on that. The DE comes with all options, hence why it’s missing, but otherwise I do believe it’s an option, unlike on the Air which just includes it by default.
 
I’m pretty sure Homelink is an option for the Gravity; but don’t quote me on that. The DE comes with all options, hence why it’s missing, but otherwise I do believe it’s an option, unlike on the Air which just includes it by default.
It’s not an option you can actively choose (or not choose) with a GGT build nor do I see it mentioned within options. I mean, $20,000 cars come with homelink. Whether it works now or soon, it shouldn’t be something for which Lucid tries to charge extra.

This is like lane keeping. Lucid charges $6,750 for DD Pro to get it but cheap Toyotas have it…By that, I mean TACC and the car centering you in lane - which Lucid calls “Highway Assist”…
 
It’s not an option you can actively choose (or not choose) with a GGT build nor do I see it mentioned within options. I mean, $20,000 cars come with homelink. Whether it works now or soon, it shouldn’t be something for which Lucid tries to charge extra.

This is like lane keeping. Lucid charges $6,750 for DD Pro to get it but cheap Toyotas have it…
Lane keep or lane centering really bugs me. All subarus get it standard and it's pretty damn good for stereo vision only.
 
Unless you find another source, consider this trash. This website is banned for a reason, and it isn’t because we like banning things. It’s the *only* website we’ve banned, because it is constantly making things up.
Marc did admit to slow ramp in a recent podcast interview. I believe the article is quoting from that interview:

 
I’m pretty sure Homelink is an option for the Gravity; but don’t quote me on that. The DE comes with all options, hence why it’s missing, but otherwise I do believe it’s an option, unlike on the Air which just includes it by default.
My SA told me that it was included at this time but may be a subscription thing in the future as Lucid has to pay monthly for each car. Not sure how accurate that is but it was I was told a week ago.
 
It’s not an option you can actively choose (or not choose) with a GGT build nor do I see it mentioned within options. I mean, $20,000 cars come with homelink. Whether it works now or soon, it shouldn’t be something for which Lucid tries to charge extra.

This is like lane keeping. Lucid charges $6,750 for DD Pro to get it but cheap Toyotas have it…By that, I mean TACC and the car centering you in lane - which Lucid calls “Highway Assist”…
As a point of reference a competitor car the Tesla cybertruck does not have homelink. Therefore it’s not universal. Of course good luck fitting your cybertruck in the garage.
 
My SA told me that it was included at this time but may be a subscription thing in the future as Lucid has to pay monthly for each car. Not sure how accurate that is but it was I was told a week ago.
Huh? We’re talking about the same Homelink that syncs the car to your garage door clicker? Whether it’s on a screen or a button on the mirror, I don’t see how that’s something Lucid would pay for monthly? For connectivity bandwidth and things like that I actually could understand having a subscription, and I think some automakers subscription features are not unreasonable, but regardless of what other automakers do (please stop with these “my Toyota does that” comments it’s so tiresome and irrelevant), Lucid themselves has this feature, on the Air, so to ship a fully loaded maxed out “all of the features” car after delays to make sure things were right, without getting something to work that Air drivers have had since day one is a bit of a face palm moment to me. I’m not trying to stoke outrage, I’m keeping my Gravity order, but come on, this is like a really basic thing.
 
Huh? We’re talking about the same Homelink that syncs the car to your garage door clicker? Whether it’s on a screen or a button on the mirror, I don’t see how that’s something Lucid would pay for monthly? For connectivity bandwidth and things like that I actually could understand having a subscription, and I think some automakers subscription features are not unreasonable, but regardless of what other automakers do (please stop with these “my Toyota does that” comments it’s so tiresome and irrelevant), Lucid themselves has this feature, on the Air, so to ship a fully loaded maxed out “all of the features” car after delays to make sure things were right, without getting something to work that Air drivers have had since day one is a bit of a face palm moment to me. I’m not trying to stoke outrage, I’m keeping my Gravity order, but come on, this is like a really basic thing.

I understand delivering cars with software features not yet operable. It happens even with Tesla's vaunted software superiority. Our Model S Plaid was delivered without its advertised active noise cancellation yet operable, final suspension calibrations didn't come until several months after delivery, and the Cybertruck was released with several touted software features not yet operable . . . not to mention years of selling FSD capabilities that didn't yet exist.

But these hardware issues (HUD components, wiring harnesses, and now Homelink equipment) that are now cropping up with Gravity deliveries are more worrisome.
 
I understand delivering cars with software features not yet operable. It happens even with Tesla's vaunted software superiority. Our Model S Plaid was delivered without its advertised active noise cancellation yet operable, final suspension calibrations didn't come until several months after delivery, and the Cybertruck was released with several touted software features not yet operable . . . not to mention years of selling FSD capabilities that didn't yet exist.

But these hardware issues (HUD components, wiring harnesses, and now Homelink equipment) that are now cropping up with Gravity deliveries are more worrisome.
One can imagine a triage board as the Gravity product, manufacturing, and service teams decide just what level of incompletion is viable to ship, and in what quantity.
 
We’re talking about the same Homelink that syncs the car to your garage door clicker? Whether it’s on a screen or a button on the mirror, I don’t see how that’s something Lucid would pay for monthly?
I thought odd also as I cannot understand what Homelink would be charging for monthly but it was during a conversation about are there any subscription fees with the Gravity and he said not at this time but that they have to pay monthly for Homelink and in the future, they may pass it on to the customer. The accuracy of this I cannot comment on. It is also possible that he misspoke and was meaning a different service although I am unsure what that would be.
 
I understand delivering cars with software features not yet operable. It happens even with Tesla's vaunted software superiority. Our Model S Plaid was delivered without its advertised active noise cancellation yet operable, final suspension calibrations didn't come until several months after delivery, and the Cybertruck was released with several touted software features not yet operable . . . not to mention years of selling FSD capabilities that didn't yet exist.

But these hardware issues (HUD components, wiring harnesses, and now Homelink equipment) that are now cropping up with Gravity deliveries are more worrisome.
This is why I’m glad I brought this up as I learned something. Homelink is a proprietary system, the hardware is sold and software is licensed by Gentex to auto manufacturers. The Volvo EX90 is also currently without working Homelink. So this may well be another supply chain/market priority issue, so I’m going to withhold criticism of Lucid over it. This just shows my natural state of giving benefit of the doubt is the right one and I made an error based on lack of knowledge in straying from that.

Let me say one other thing though. Every day, sometimes many times per day, there’s some comment about a Kia or Toyota or whatever having some feature the Lucid doesn’t have or does differently. Allow me to tell everyone why this is a stupid point. Those other cars are ugly, slow, less comfortable than Lucid, don’t charge as fast, have less space, less cutting edge design and engineering, and also ENORMOUS SCALE and enormous resources available. So if you really think the Toyota or Kia is better go away from here and go drive one of those. Thanks.
 
I don't think there will be a subscription for Homelink. As said, it's hardware and doesn't require any cloud or server backend. He might be referring to myQ which has a subscription in cars like Tesla.
 
I did have one strange quirk during the ride home, however. SiriusXM along with all the other streaming services literally completely disappeared for one of the legs of my trip home which was odd. We set up Sirius with some presets during the orientation. It worked great. Then started the car up to go home to leave and literally the entire existence of Sirius and all streaming services disappeared from the radio menu and the settings menu as if they never existed
I've got Lucid coming out on Monday to look at this with a couple of other little things. For now, the quickest way to resolve is to do the steering wheel reset.
 
I've got Lucid coming out on Monday to look at this with a couple of other little things. For now, the quickest way to resolve is to do the steering wheel reset.
Please let me know what they say. It just happened again while running errands. It's good to know the steering wheel reset fixes it. I haven't tried that out yet since I'm not sure how long that takes to complete.
 
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