Exactly. Like you said: if you charge to 100% before leaving on a road trip and do run the battery low, don't leave it there long. Charge it up to ~50% and try to cycle it ~35%-55% for daily drives for max capacity longevity. I get it. Thanks again
Gas averages about 90 seconds, plus the time to put the nozzle in/out and swipe a credit card. Roughly 3 minutes total. (In the US, standard gas pump flow rate is 10 gallons/minute). No question DCFC takes way longer than gas.
Super helpful and what I was thinking.
Regarding home charging; in colder clime and love driving by the gas station watching folks shiver that 3-4 mins!
I might have read the same article as hmp10. It said “occasional” fast charge/discharge is good for the battery. I made a point of showing it to my wife and said “see honey, when I get my Gravity, I am occasionally going to have to romp on it. It’s good for the battery.”
lol. so Lucid will sell ice tires soon.
Oh I hear ya. We are lucky that we are likely to never be stranded because the the abundance of chargers and proximity to highways. I'm merely trying to figure out before I receive the GGT, whether I can make my most common drive, without stopping. SJ to Carnelian Bay (240 miles). Yes it's a luxury to do without stopping - but that's my drive and preferred outcome. No ICE has to stop on that drive, so why should I have to compromise with my "Never Compromise" EV SUV?
- I drive between my homes in Phoenix AZ and CA (Ranch Palos Verdes through 2023, exactly 400 miles door-to-door, and Sausalito now, ~780 miles).
- I have a 2022 AGT. Over the years, I drove these trips on 4 different cars; a 2017 Lexus RX450, 2019 Hona Clarity, 2022 AGT, and 2023 Rivian R1S (large pack).
- in terms of "Time Efficiency" (i.e., how long does it take to go from one place to the other), my ICE-hybrids can do the 780 mile trip in ~11 hours. My record was 10.5 hours in my Lexus.
- As for the EVs, the AGT takes ~12.5 hours (780 miles) with two charging stops. From 100% SoC to 5% SoC, the most I ever got from my AGT is ~375 miles range. The Rivian takes ~13.5-14 hours, with 3 charging stops, and slower charging than the AGT.
- So, my conclusions:
- if range/shortest travel time/range anxiety are your key concerns, go with an ICE hybrid.
- the AGT is a 375 mile range car when driven 75mph in AZ Hwy and 70mph on CA highways, ~73% of Lucid's advertised range. That said, my drives (I-10/I-5) do have some elevation changes and I am going from 100% to 5%. Hence, if you take all of these into account, I'd say the AGT delivers ~78+/-% of its claimed range (100% SoC to 0%). Still a good range, but not as good as Lucid suggests.
- My Rivian delivers close to 2.5 mi/kWh, pretty much inline with Rivian's claims.
- To all my CA friends, you folks have no idea what range-anxiety is. There are so many chargers along CA highways you will never get stuck! All you are moaning about is whether you can get to Tahoe from the Bay Area in one charge!
Yep. And whether it takes a 100% starting charge to do it. Some round-trip destinations may be fine when leaving home at 100%, but if you're counting on a DCFC at or near the destination before the return trip, it's a different matter because it's usually not practical to DCFC up to 100%. More like somewhere between 80-90%, which means slicing 10-20% off the range number.Oh I hear ya. We are lucky that we are likely to never be stranded because the the abundance of chargers and proximity to highways. I'm merely trying to figure out before I receive the GGT, whether I can make my most common drive, without stopping. SJ to Carnelian Bay (240 miles). Yes it's a luxury to do without stopping - but that's my drive and preferred outcome. No ICE has to stop on that drive, so why should I have to compromise with my "Never Compromise" EV SUV?
To be fair, 450 miles isn’t based on a trip that sounds mainly like highway at 70+ mph with varying topography and weather. We can discuss whether that’s the “right” way for the EPA to assign an estimate, but we know how it is done now and you won’t get 450 miles unless you have ideal conditions and speed, etc.
Of course. No one expects 450 highway range (not if they know how EVs work). But I think 400 was a reasonable highway expectation, given Lucid's reputation for range and efficiency.
All I know is my 21/22, 7 seater has rated range of 386 and dynamic range is equal to rated range when dynamic shows 3.30 kWh. Which matches with about 117 kw usable on battery.
That's better than most reports I've seen. Most seem to top out around 3.0, or the high 2s. Even in the 450 trim.
Good point. I’ve done that past 2,000 miles and now have over 5,000 miles.
On my California to New Mexico trip recently I got above 3.2 while drafting behind Semis. Max follow distance… also the Fastest DC chargers really improve the road trips… splash and dash takes on a whole new meaning when you get close to 80 % refreshed in under 20 minutes. YMMV of course… Gravity also cruises wonderfully at higher highway speeds.
It definitely fits in garage… Same length as the Model X with much better space utilization/optimization. The GM efforts seem clownish when you consider efficiency and charging speeds. Their best is the pickup which is prolly best for towing and utility because of their monster batteries.
I heard the Hankooks were weak in wet weather and yet I gently pushed mine a bit the other day after some first rain… when road would be at worst… seemed solid and grippy enough… didn’t slip at all that I could detect… felt stable as usual. Only just breaking em in at 4k miles so… will keep an eye on them Hankook seems interested in ev optimizations like stiffer sidewalls and sound insulation.You should move. I spent a week driving that Acadia around FL and your neighbors whipped in and out of lanes around me as I was comfortably doing 92 or something, so I don’t think this is an issue with how fast you drive.
And rubber.
Source? I’d love to see this; I know nothing about the Hankooks and am curious.
Nobody will believe this, but my 2014 Chevy Spark will continuously charge if I get about 20ft behind a simi. Wife will also continuously bi...
Interesting reaction to drafting from the wife....
