First recorded 60-130 pull. 32 degrees out.

[hydbob]

Could someone (if you can that is) please tell me if at WOT (wide open throttle) at 100% SOC (state of charge) how long the Lucid Air Sapphire produces it's maximum quoted horsepower and torque figures?

I thought about this and if you accelerated to the cars top speed. Let’s say that is 240 mph. At 240mph my swag is it would take about 5.7 kWh per mile. Giving you a range a ~20 miles so you would be done in 5 minutes. The battery pack would light on fire at this discharge rate.

We need some serious space to see how long the car can maintain 240mph before it cuts power.

Have far would you end up going and what average speed if you could hold the accelerator to the floor until the car stopped?

Maybe @mcr16 could ask a Sapphire engineer for us =)

 

[GulfSpeed24]

What tires where you driving at 32 degrees? I have been reluctant to take delivery because I need to find all-season or snow tires.

 

[Veritas51683]

What tires where you driving at 32 degrees? I have been reluctant to take delivery because I need to find all-season or snow tires.

It's the MPS4S it came with. I don't think there are snows for the Sapphire. Above freezing you should be ok.

 

[GMan]

I like how they compare the interior luxury of the Sapphire versus the single seater Demon.

Next time the Sapphire driver should turn on some music and maybe grab a few bites of popcorn while racing

 

[Sapphire™]

It's the MPS4S it came with. I don't think there are snows for the Sapphire. Above freezing you should be ok.

What range are you getting on your Sapphire?

 

[Veritas51683]

What range are you getting on your Sapphire?

Heh...depends on how you look at it. Pure numbers, not the greatest. My lifetime average is about 2.4 mi/kwh. That being said, I have a very hard time not romping on it all the time. I literally get into it just about every time I drive it. On the rare occasion that I do just putt around in it, I get usually between 3.5 and 4 mi/kwh. I took it on a nice cruise over the weekend with some friends and even pushing it a little on back roads I still ended up with 3.2 mi/kwh over about 60 miles, which included a couple launches for my friends to experience.

 

[Sapphire™]

Heh...depends on how you look at it. Pure numbers, not the greatest. My lifetime average is about 2.4 mi/kwh. That being said, I have a very hard time not romping on it all the time. I literally get into it just about every time I drive it. On the rare occasion that I do just putt around in it, I get usually between 3.5 and 4 mi/kwh. I took it on a nice cruise over the weekend with some friends and even pushing it a little on back roads I still ended up with 3.2 mi/kwh over about 60 miles, which included a couple launches for my friends to experience.

Interesting Thanks. So 250- 400 miles ish then on a charge? Last question.

 

[xponents]

Heh...depends on how you look at it. Pure numbers, not the greatest. My lifetime average is about 2.4 mi/kwh. That being said, I have a very hard time not romping on it all the time. I literally get into it just about every time I drive it. On the rare occasion that I do just putt around in it, I get usually between 3.5 and 4 mi/kwh. I took it on a nice cruise over the weekend with some friends and even pushing it a little on back roads I still ended up with 3.2 mi/kwh over about 60 miles, which included a couple launches for my friends to experience.

That's... actually way better than I expected! 380ish miles with a couple of launches is amazing, and getting 3.8 almost gets you 450 miles.

 

[Veritas51683]

At 2.4mi/kwh my math works out to approximately 280 miles. If driven around town and not getting into it is can easily get close to if not over 400 miles

 

[xponents]

At 2.4mi/kwh my math works out to approximately 280 miles. If driven around town and not getting into it is can easily get close to if not over 400 miles

Although I definitely understand what you mean, would it be a reasonable assumption that "not getting into it" on the Sapphire is equivalent to dumping the throttle off the line in a 5 series?

I do wonder why the efficiency is this high, though. Even with stickier tires, worse aero (in terms of drag, nothing else, although it is still quite fantastic), and the obvious HP advantage, it is getting within spitting distance of the DE-P. If you have figures for it, what do you get by going the speed limit on a highway?

 

[Veritas51683]

Although I definitely understand what you mean, would it be a reasonable assumption that "not getting into it" on the Sapphire is equivalent to dumping the throttle off the line in a 5 series?

I do wonder why the efficiency is this high, though. Even with stickier tires, worse aero (in terms of drag, nothing else, although it is still quite fantastic), and the obvious HP advantage, it is getting within spitting distance of the DE-P. If you have figures for it, what do you get by going the speed limit on a highway?

Lol no, I just mean driving it normally around town. Light to light, traffic etc. No room to play or sudden acceleration.

The route we took Sunday was pretty optimal for efficiency. Winding country roads with more downs than ups, then on the way back relatively level route at consistent 40ish mph.

As for the highway, if I'm doing 75 the efficiency suffers for sure. Usually 2.7 or so. That being said I'm usually up around 85 which brings me down to 2.5 or lower. I've had trips where enthusiastic driving nets me a 1.8 lol.

 

[PaulS]

I'm glad you did the 60-130 from a roll. It's very different than from a dig.

The Plaid will do 60-130 around 5.5sec from a roll. Like all Teslas, it gives all the power from 0 instead of at higher speeds.
So the Sapphire is considerably faster than Plaid in, especially in real world conditions in a street race.

The new Model 3 Performance will do a 10.9 in the 1/4 mile, but 60-130 is at 9.5sec which is very weak

 

[momo3605]

The new Model 3 Performance will do a 10.9 in the 1/4 mile, but 60-130 is at 9.5sec which is very weak

Why are we comparing a $45k Model 3 lol. It's probably the fastest car at it's price point. But yea, nowhere near the Plaid/Sapphire.

 

[PaulS]

Why are we comparing a $45k Model 3 lol. It's probably the fastest car at it's price point. But yea, nowhere near the Plaid/Sapphire.

Its very fast and I'm not comparing to Plaid/Sapphire, but the 1/4mile is very different than the 60-130 times.
My RS E-Tron GT stock is 0-60 at 3sec, 1/4mile at 11sec, but my 60-130 is 8.1sec.
From a dig the Model 3 performance would win, from a roll of 60mph, it stands no chance.
Teslas is really focused from 0-100mph

 

[Veritas51683]

Its very fast and I'm not comparing to Plaid/Sapphire, but the 1/4mile is very different than the 60-130 times.
My RS E-Tron GT stock is 0-60 at 3sec, 1/4mile at 11sec, but my 60-130 is 8.1sec.
From a dig the Model 3 performance would win, from a roll of 60mph, it stands no chance.
Teslas is really focused from 0-100mph

I'm glad you did the 60-130 from a roll. It's very different than from a dig.

The Plaid will do 60-130 around 5.5sec from a roll. Like all Teslas, it gives all the power from 0 instead of at higher speeds.
So the Sapphire is considerably faster than Plaid in, especially in real world conditions in a street race.

The new Model 3 Performance will do a 10.9 in the 1/4 mile, but 60-130 is at 9.5sec which is very weak

I've actually gotten it down some more. A 4.35 60-130 is my best so far. It's an absolutely amazing machine and the best daily I've ever owned

 

[PaulS]

I've actually gotten it down some more. A 4.35 60-130 is my best so far. It's an absolutely amazing machine and the best daily I've ever owned

Unbelievable! That's close to Rimac territory
Have you tried to run it with lower tire pressure?

 

[Veritas51683]

Unbelievable! That's close to Rimac territory
Have you tried to run it with lower tire pressure?

Not yet, Jo. However on hot days after turning traction of and heating up tires they just seem to hook and go

 

[Steveinarizona]

This thread has many different issues in it. But I want to respond to the title issue. For an EV, I don't frankly care about 0-60...they are all adequately fast for non track driving. But passing speed, that is another matter.

There is a country road I travel periodically that is essentially one lane in each direction with a 65 mph speed limit. The road is on my way to and from the best pay to play golf course in greater Phoenix. But this road also has some vehicles pulling trailers, etc. There are a few spots where there is a steep uphill and the state has put in a passing lane. When I am approaching one of these, and see one of those guys pulling the trailer, I want to be able to hit the accelerator and get past him and then slow down before I crest the hill and the road turns back into a 2 lane road.

Kudos to the OP for posting this!