Driving in the snow? Chains or no chains?

[borski]

Just to clarify, here are the links to the Lucid’s online store for winter tires/wheels:

19” All Seasons: https://store.lucidmotors.com/19-all-season-wheel-tire-package/

These are 19" Pirelli P Zero All Season tires

19” Winter: https://store.lucidmotors.com/19-winter-wheel-tire-package/

These are 19" Pirelli Sottozero 3 Winter tires. You can see them on TireRack - they’re also severe snow rated: https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Year=2022&autoModel=Air&autoModClar=245/45-19

And the Lucid Snow Socks, which should only really be used on the 19” all seasons, since winter tires will offer better traction anyway: https://store.lucidmotors.com/lucid-air-snow-socks/

 

[HariK]

Just to clarify, here are the links to the Lucid’s online store for winter tires/wheels:

19” All Seasons: https://store.lucidmotors.com/19-all-season-wheel-tire-package/

These are 19" Pirelli P Zero All Season tires

19” Winter: https://store.lucidmotors.com/19-winter-wheel-tire-package/

These are 19" Pirelli Sottozero 3 Winter tires. You can see them on TireRack - they’re also severe snow rated: https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Winter+Sottozero+3&partnum=445VR9SZ3XLV4&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Lucid&autoYear=2022&autoModel=Air&autoModClar=245/45-19&autoMake=Lucid&autoYear=2022&autoModel=Air&autoModClar=245/45-19

And the Lucid Snow Socks, which should only really be used on the 19” all seasons, since winter tires will offer better traction anyway: https://store.lucidmotors.com/lucid-air-snow-socks/

Are snow socks allowed in CA when chains are required on I 80 i5?

 

[AltadenaAir]

According to the manufacturer and the CHP, the answer is yes (mostly): https://autosock.us/california/

If you follow the links on that page to the CHP page, it specifically indicates that devices like the "Autosock" is an approved alternative to chains. While it appears the CHP could specify actual chains if they feel that is required, the official direction is that "traction devices" of all types are functionally equivalent.

Thanks to everyone for the help!

 

[Haggy]

In California, M+S is fine, and no chains are needed with AWD. Before Tesla, it was easy to tell if a car had AWD because they used a pole with a mirror to look for a drive shaft, on cars that might or might not be AWD. Since Tesla used two separate motors and no drive shaft, a logo on the back that says dual motor, or D indicated that it was AWD. In the absence of any logo or drive shaft, when a mirror obviously won't show a drive shaft, how would an inspector know, short of being an expert on which EVs have AWD? Has anybody run into an inspection point?