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Something new I learned is electrical company (NYSEG in Upstate NY) will swap out existing meter with a Day/Night meter which will result in a lower kwh rate for both day and night.
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In CA, many have access to time-of-use rates. But this results in a high on-peak rate with a low off-peak rate. The non-time-of-use rate is in the middle.
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That’s the way it is on L.I. too.
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Perhaps set it to charge to 95% or so and then finish it off in the AM before one leaves?
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Thank you all for the active discussion on this topic and especially for the data and related technical information.
Since posting, I spoke to my Delivery Advisor about charging and battery longevity. He said "it really doesn't matter much as long as you follow 80-20 for daily use." While that was an imprecise answer, I think looking at the data on the graph that is not a bad conclusion. Other factors such as ambient temperature will probably do more to help or hurt battery life than charging regimen alone which impacts a couple percent over more than a decade of use.
Lucid wants to hide the vampire drain problem so their recommendation for daily charging helps that issue, noting to do with battery life. I am losing 1% SoC every 24 hours.
I'm charging about 2x per week, limit of 75, coming from about 35.
Cheers.
Thank you all for the active discussion on this topic and especially for the data and related technical information.
Since posting, I spoke to my Delivery Advisor about charging and battery longevity. He said "it really doesn't matter much as long as you follow 80-20 for daily use." While that was an imprecise answer, I think looking at the data on the graph that is not a bad conclusion. Other factors such as ambient temperature will probably do more to help or hurt battery life than charging regimen alone which impacts a couple percent over more than a decade of use.
Lucid wants to hide the vampire drain problem so their recommendation for daily charging helps that issue, noting to do with battery life. I am losing 1% SoC every 24 hours.
I'm charging about 2x per week, limit of 75, coming from about 35.
Cheers.
I was an early adopter of plasma tv. I bought a 42" 480p for ~ $5000. One of the items of concern was "burn-in" ... the white lines of Atari Pong would etch themselves into the screen and remain there forever (as an example). Never happened. Screen was supposed to get dimmer or milky over time. Never happened.
not worried that I will outlive my Lucid battery.
the big question will always be: where should I drive today ?
not worried that I will outlive my Lucid battery.
the big question will always be: where should I drive today ?
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Daily charging is the standard recommendation for most manufacturer's EVs.
To reduce drain while not driving the car, make sure any keys are located away from the car (phone and fobs), or keep the fobs in a faraday pouch or box.
Factoid: for my car, when BMS is on, hot air blows toward the front tire, passenger’s side, while a cold draft is felt on the driver’s side. In my garage, a temp differential up to 10 F between the 2 front tires is observed with a laser temp gun.
Love this philosophy. Should we crowdsource T-shirts with a fake movie poster: Dr. Strangejoec, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Charge
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This is great advice. At home I have max at 80% and plug in when I am below 50%. For some road trips I go to 100%, I also sometimes leave the house at 80% if I’m going to use DC fast charger and 100 has little value. I don’t anticipate owning this car for more than 3-4 years, so I don’t stress about it. On the road DC charging, I charge to 80-90% as the last 10% just not worth the time. Nothing to do with battery life.
There is calendar life degradation also. Typically 1.5% or so per year, depending on Chemistry. Does anyone know if Lucid uses NMC or LFP? And who's cell? My guess is NMC given the rapid acceleration needing a high C rate battery. It is true that battery companies have their own engineering magins applied, so 100% is not really 100%. But the buffers vary significantly by manufacturer. I think the once a month charge to 100% is to reset calibration as there is drift on calculation of SOC. It also helps with cell balancing (ensuring each individual cell and module are at equivalent SOCs).
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Lucid is using NMC from LG and Samsung.
While not related to this question as an owner, I have had loaners from Lucid and they charge them to 100%.... I asked service advisor about battery life on these loaners and was told it is not a concern unless you are keeping your car for several years... Hmmm, I guess its a consideration to keep in mind if they start selling off the loaner Lucids.
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LOL, c'mon, that Launch Mode should snap ya right out of it.Sometimes it’s simply a matter of remembering to plug in, depending on how catatonic I feel after getting home from work.
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