Choosing gravity GT vs DE

[hmp10]

. . . combined with how fast they updated the available DE configs based on customer feedback, that kind of external evidence would be consistent with them deciding to bring forward a future P drivetrain and call it a DE only recently.

So how would you explain Lucid's decision just a couple of months before Air Dream deliveries began to add Zenith Red to the color choices based on customer feedback? (I was one of the customers giving feedback about a too-limited color choice and also one of the people who slipped back in the delivery queue by making the switch.)

Did Lucid's response to that feedback mean the Dream Edition had not been in development long before? And what of Lucid's later adding the GTP to the lineup? By your thinking, the addition of the red color choice would have signaled the Dream was just a last-minute rebadging of something that was actually planned for later.

You're really stretching the bounds of logic to try to make a case for a proposition that both @borski and @hydbob have personal knowledge from inside Lucid was not the case.

 

[flarbear]

So how would you explain Lucid's decision just a couple of months before Air Dream deliveries began to add Zenith Red to the color choices based on customer feedback? (I was one of the customers giving feedback about a too-limited color choice and also one of the people who slipped back in the delivery queue by making the switch.)

Did Lucid's response to that feedback mean the Dream Edition had not been in development long before? And what of Lucid's later adding the GTP to the lineup? By your thinking, the addition of the red color choice would have signaled the Dream was just a last-minute rebadging of something that was actually planned for later.

You're really stretching the bounds of logic to try to make a case for a proposition that both @borski and @hydbob have personal knowledge from inside Lucid was not the case.

I'm not going to get into the logical fallacies of your leading questions. I will just make some statements of fact.

I fully believe that the DE drivetrain is well developed. I have believed that for a week or two.

I am not making a case that it was cobbled together. I don't believe that to be true.

Some people have presented personal knowledge of what is going on that I fully believe. Those statements are primarily why I have believed that DE will be well thought out.

One suggestion was that a small observation was some sort of proof of development and I was simply pointing out that that statement did not support the conclusion, even though I believed the conclusion.

I believe in making sure the arguments behind a conclusion are well vetted. I may point out fallacies in arguments, but that does not mean I believe the opposite.

 

[borski]

The fact that it exists now doesn't imbue those original sightings of the badges with any special power to predict how long the planning for the current DE hardware has been.

I agree. Luckily, I am not making any kind of argument about the original badge sightings.

I am telling you things I know for a fact are true.

 

[hmp10]

Of course a badge on a show car does not mean that show car has a Dream Edition powertrain. There were several Air "Dream Editions" on the display circuit before its entry into the marketplace that certainly didn't have the Dream powertrain. For instance, I sat in a Eureka Gold "Dream Edition" in the West Palm Beach showroom with the deep rear footwells of the small battery pack. I knew that car was not actually a Dream Edition. But what it did signify is that Lucid was going to produce the Air Dream Edition that was in the product plan.

What is missing from this discussion is any reasonable explanation for why Lucid would have premiered a badged representation of a Dream Edition at the highly-followed L.A. Auto Show and then paraded that badged model around with a Grand Touring for 16 months if there were no plans all along to have a Dream Edition in the lineup. What possible purpose could that have served other than to whet customer appetite for a car that Lucid was not sure would make it to production?

I'm no fan of Lucid marketing, but that would have been a colossally dumb move even for them.

 

[WeighingGravity]

fuck. i caved.

 

[PetevB]

fuck. i caved.

Lol

 

[DeaneG]

fuck. i caved.

Time to change that username to AnticipatingGravity?

 

[boydracing]

If the wife is good, I will jump that fence too!