Charging Question

[Sandvinsd]

Blue.

And I started the charge through the app and it worked, only the scheduling part doesn't. I am not assuming it's the car @Sandvinsd. I always thought it was the charger.

I'll call Chargepoint on Monday to troubleshoot.

Chargepoint is responsive. When I bought one, I had an issue and they sent me a new charger to replace it. The replacement worked fine.

 

[GEWC]

Chargepoint is responsive. When I bought one, I had an issue and they sent me a new charger to replace it. The replacement worked fine.

Is yours hardwired? I assume I'll need the electricians to come back if the unit needs replacing.

 

[hydbob]

Is yours hardwired? I assume I'll need the electricians to come back if the unit needs replacing.

Hardwiring the chargepoint is SUPER easy. They give very detailed instructions on how to do it.

 

[GEWC]

Hardwiring the chargepoint is SUPER easy. They give very detailed instructions on how to do it.

Trying to get me killed, I see.

 

[EVCar]

Trying to get me killed, I see.

I agree with @hydbob.
I watched the electrician install mine. Three (or four, I’ve forgotten) colored wires were Inserted into slots and the screws tightened. That’s it. In fact, it was actually the electrician’s son, who was the doing the apprenticeship, who did it.
Replacing is even easier because you have the template in place already .
A handyman certainly can do it.

 

[CLTGT]

It was very easy to install the pigtail with the plug on it and I really cannot see hard wiring it too much more difficult if you have someone do the panel connections. I do not mess with anything inside the panel, personal rule.

I found another advantage to having the Chargepoint unit. If Lucid has to take your car for service for any length of time and you find another EV to use as a loaner/rental, it makes charging that loaner much easier and less worrisome. I rented an Audi Sportback e-tron this past week and having the ChargePoint has made that much easier. The Turo guy did not bring a cord and was relying on the renter to either have a unit like this or charge at a public charger.

 

[GEWC]

I agree with @hydbob.
I watched the electrician install mine. Three (or four, I’ve forgotten) colored wires were Inserted into slots and the screws tightened. That’s it. In fact, it was actually the electrician’s son, who was the doing the apprenticeship, who did it.
Replacing is even easier because you have the template in place already .
A handyman certainly can do it.

Good to know. It is wired off the Tesla system directly, which makes me nervous to touch it, but it does have its own breaker. Now if only I could find a reliable handyman in my area.

 

[magesh]

Hardwiring the chargepoint is SUPER easy. They give very detailed instructions on how to do it.

Q: Why do you suggest hardwiring? Is it better than a wall outlet?

Apart from the 'eye sore' of a having an outlet on the wall, I found using the outlet+plug gives me the flexibility. What other advantages are there for hard wiring?

1) if the charger breaks/does not work, etc, it is easier to replace.
2) on one occasion, i had another EV wanting to use the 240V. I used my spare 15-40 extension cord & got it started.

 

[hydbob]

Q: Why do you suggest hardwiring? Is it better than a wall outlet?

Apart from the 'eye sore' of a having an outlet on the wall, I found using the outlet+plug gives me the flexibility. What other advantages are there for hard wiring?

1) if the charger breaks/does not work, etc, it is easier to replace.
2) on one occasion, i had another EV wanting to use the 240V. I used my spare 15-40 extension cord & got it started.

The only advantage is you can push 50 amps vs 40 with a plug in. Mine is plugged in as well but that's because a plug was already there.

 

[magesh]

The only advantage is you can push 50 amps vs 40 with a plug in. Mine is plugged in as well but that's because a plug was already there.

Ok. I was not aware of that.

It was my understanding on a 50A breaker, the max output, hardwired or plug in, is 40A.

 

[MoniputerLM]

Ok. I was not aware of that.

It was my understanding on a 50A breaker, the max output, hardwired or plug in, is 40A.

The ChargePoint unit can use a 60A breaker when hard wired, so you get a little faster charging.

 

[magesh]

The ChargePoint unit can use a 60A breaker when hard wired, so you get a little faster charging.

Yeah .. but on a 50A breaker the max draw, I thought, is 40A.

Yes, on a 60A, you can draw 48A and take advantage of it, if the charger supports it.

 

[MoniputerLM]

Amperage Setting	Estimated Range Per Hour	Maximum Output Power	Circuit Breaker Rating	Plug-in Installation	Hardwired Installation
16A	12 mi / 19 km	3.8 kW	20A	No	Yes
24A	18 mi / 29 km	5.8 kW	30A	No	Yes
32A	25 mi / 40 km	7.7 kW	40A	Yes	Yes
40A	30 mi / 48 km	9.6 kW	50A	Yes	Yes
48A	36 mi / 58 km	11.5 kW	60A	No	Yes
50A	37 mi / 60 km	12 kW	70A/80A	No	Yes

Max output is 50A.

 

[zkhan2]

I'm getting my car next week and I just installed a Nema 14-50 plug in my garage. It's my first EV and I'm a bit clueless on charging. Is there an advantage to getting a product like Chargepoint or even the soon to be released Lucid charger over just plugging my car into the Nema 14-50 outlet? If so, what's the advantage? Any help/advice is appreciated

I just removed my in-wall Tesla charger and installed Autel Energy MaxiCharge 50 AMP in-wall. It connects via WiFi and works awesome!

 

[zkhan2]

I just removed my in-wall Tesla charger and installed Autel Energy MaxiCharge 50 AMP in-wall. It connects via WiFi and works awesome!

My existing circuit is 60 AMP so the Autel is configured for 48 AMP.

 

[EVCar]

Good to know. It is wired off the Tesla system directly, which makes me nervous to touch it, but it does have its own breaker. Now if only I could find a reliable handyman in my area.

This is pretty straightforward so any average handyman should be able to handle it, especially because you already have a breaker.
We used to frequent your area when our son was in school up there. Would have been happy to do it in exchange for lessons on how to drive EV efficiently.

 

[zkhan2]

I agree with @hydbob.
I watched the electrician install mine. Three (or four, I’ve forgotten) colored wires were Inserted into slots and the screws tightened. That’s it. In fact, it was actually the electrician’s son, who was the doing the apprenticeship, who did it.
Replacing is even easier because you have the template in place already .
A handyman certainly can do it.

It's very easy, but I paid $145 for a licensed electrician to take the Tesla charge off and install the Autel charger. Too much voltage for me to screw around with even with only three connectors. It took the tech about 30 minutes to complete the job. Only the Red (hot for 240V), Black (hot) and bare copper (ground) wires are used. The White neutral wire is not used.

 

[Steveinarizona]

Amperage Setting	Estimated Range Per Hour	Maximum Output Power	Circuit Breaker Rating	Plug-in Installation	Hardwired Installation
16A	12 mi / 19 km	3.8 kW	20A	No	Yes
24A	18 mi / 29 km	5.8 kW	30A	No	Yes
32A	25 mi / 40 km	7.7 kW	40A	Yes	Yes
40A	30 mi / 48 km	9.6 kW	50A	Yes	Yes
48A	36 mi / 58 km	11.5 kW	60A	No	Yes
50A	37 mi / 60 km	12 kW	70A/80A	No	Yes

Max output is 50A.

Good chart. Thanks for this.

 

[EVCar]

Amperage Setting	Estimated Range Per Hour	Maximum Output Power	Circuit Breaker Rating	Plug-in Installation	Hardwired Installation
16A	12 mi / 19 km	3.8 kW	20A	No	Yes
24A	18 mi / 29 km	5.8 kW	30A	No	Yes
32A	25 mi / 40 km	7.7 kW	40A	Yes	Yes
40A	30 mi / 48 km	9.6 kW	50A	Yes	Yes
48A	36 mi / 58 km	11.5 kW	60A	No	Yes
50A	37 mi / 60 km	12 kW	70A/80A	No	Yes

Max output is 50A.

Is the chart specific for Lucid, or universally applicable to all EVs?

 

[MoniputerLM]

Is the chart specific for Lucid, or universally applicable to all EVs?

Just the output of the ChargePoint charger and most other home chargers. I would assume that most EVs will charge at about the same speed on 220V chargers.