Charging at NACS Superchargers

[HC_79]

Tesla has finally announced the TRUE V4 cabinet -

Supercharging has come a long way — our first opening in 2012 started with charging speeds of just 90kW.
Since then, our engineering teams have continuously been upgrading our Supercharger equipment.
In 2023, we launched our V4 Post, which made improvements to the charging experience for all EVs.

Today, we're announcing the V4 Cabinet — capable of delivering up to 500kW for cars and 1.2MW for Semi.

• Faster charging: Supports 400V-1000V vehicle architectures, including 30% faster charging for Cybertruck. S3XY vehicles enjoy 250kW charge rates they already experience on V3 Cabinet — charging up to 200 miles in 15 minutes.
• Faster deployments: V4 Cabinet powers 8 posts, 2X the stalls per cabinet. Lower footprint and complexity = more sites coming online faster.
• Next-generation hardware: Cutting-edge power electronics designed to be the most reliable on the planet, with 3X power density enabling higher throughput with lower costs.

Our first sites with V4 Cabinets are going into permitting now. First openings in 2025.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1857133221538148638

 

[hydbob]

To counter your point Usb-C today still works with usb 1.0 from the first usb that was ever made. Having backwards compatibility isnt holding anyone back.

It does work... slower just like USB 1.0 is slower.

 

[Science]

The adapters you can buy that have a NACS on one side and a CCS plug for the Lucid are ONLY for level 2 chargers. I have one and use it with my Tesla home charger. You can find the superchargers that support CCS on your Lucid here: https://www.plugshare.com/location/466734 As others have said, Lucid only supports a maximum of 50kw charging speed due to the need to upscale the voltage.

Thanks PAR...I would really like to use that website. But, I read the fine print (I know...nobody reads the fine print in the Terms and Conditions but I do). Here's an excerpt: "You agree to defend, indemnify and hold harmless Company... your violation of any third-party right...." I think this means that if someone has a patent/trademark or copyright on anything whatsoever connected to the site, they can sue PlugShare (or you) and you have to pay PlugShare's legal fees. I know....sounds far-fetched. I prefer not to take on any such liability. If it could never happen, PlugShare should not ask you to indemnify them. No, I am not a lawyer.

 

[Science]

The only native NACS port for Lucid is Gravity, which will be released by the end of the year.



That will only happen when Tesla allows the Lucid fleet to access its Superchargers. Right now, they only allow 5 car brands but not Lucid.

Those 5 car brands didn't provide the adapter (free or fee) until they got fleet access. The same should be for Lucid.


See above

Tesla needs to grant you access first. You can use adapters from above 5 car brands but they won't charge your Lucid because Tesla has not granted access.


Yes. But remember you can have an adapter but do you have access?

Planning one when access is granted by Tesla. Adapters exist on the market but are useless without a permission for access.

Some are made by Tesla and handed to Ford. Ford did a recall and used Lectron to manufacture their own with the "Ford" label on.

I hope you are clear now.

Yes Tam. Clear now! Thanks.

 

[joec]

Tesla has finally announced the TRUE V4 cabinet -

Supercharging has come a long way — our first opening in 2012 started with charging speeds of just 90kW.
Since then, our engineering teams have continuously been upgrading our Supercharger equipment.
In 2023, we launched our V4 Post, which made improvements to the charging experience for all EVs.

Today, we're announcing the V4 Cabinet — capable of delivering up to 500kW for cars and 1.2MW for Semi.

• Faster charging: Supports 400V-1000V vehicle architectures, including 30% faster charging for Cybertruck. S3XY vehicles enjoy 250kW charge rates they already experience on V3 Cabinet — charging up to 200 miles in 15 minutes.
• Faster deployments: V4 Cabinet powers 8 posts, 2X the stalls per cabinet. Lower footprint and complexity = more sites coming online faster.
• Next-generation hardware: Cutting-edge power electronics designed to be the most reliable on the planet, with 3X power density enabling higher throughput with lower costs.

Our first sites with V4 Cabinets are going into permitting now. First openings in 2025.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1857133221538148638

Nice. This will take a while to spread around the country, but it's most definitely welcome news.

 

[HC_79]

Nice. This will take a while to spread around the country, but it's most definitely welcome news.

Agreed. Probably safe to say the V4 stalls that are out in the wild now are probably the first to jump on the bandwagon in 2025. We'll just need to see how quickly future V4 sites come online.

 

[DeaneG]

Tesla has finally announced the TRUE V4 cabinet -

Supercharging has come a long way — our first opening in 2012 started with charging speeds of just 90kW.
Since then, our engineering teams have continuously been upgrading our Supercharger equipment.
In 2023, we launched our V4 Post, which made improvements to the charging experience for all EVs.

Today, we're announcing the V4 Cabinet — capable of delivering up to 500kW for cars and 1.2MW for Semi...

When I read your post, I had to mentally check that it wasn't April 1st!

 

[CWedge411]

It does work... slower just like USB 1.0 is slower.

A better anology is saying your USB-C cable either transfers at high speed or usb 1.0 speed. Make no mistake 50kw is the slowest in the industry today.. We are talking Nissan Leaf speed, i'd say Chademo is more usb 1.0 speed. 100-150kw like Porsche and kia are like usb 2.0 speeds